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Old 02-11-2013, 4:23 PM
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Default How Things Work In **California** - Bills, Laws, Legislators

Probably ought to be 'How things are SUPPOSED to work' …

This sticky consolidates several other stickies, so we can cut down the number in the 2A forum.

HOW A BILL BECOMES LAW - In California, how does a bill become law?
Shortest possible summary: Bills are submitted, reviewed by committees, voted on by whole house, move to the other house, repeat committees and full house, go to the Governor - that's usually in September.
HOW TO READ THE BILLS - Beginner's Guide to Reading California Bills and Bill Pages
Please use the NEW web site - http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...chClient.xhtml
INDEX TO FIND THE CALGUNS THREADS ON THE CURRENT CROP OF BILLS
2017 California Bill INDEX THREAD - look here to find the Calguns threads about bills
HOW TO CONTACT LEGISLATORS ABOUT A BILL
Lots of ways in 2013

The Official Contact pages -
--- Senate -- senate.ca.gov/senators
--- Assembly -- assembly.ca.gov/assemblymembers

And, the GOVERNOR https://govnews.gov.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php

The bill pages themselves have a tab in the top right corner.

CRPA has a page: http://crpa.org/2017-bill-status-update/
What Do I Say?

Simple is critical. All they are doing is counting incoming contacts, they really don't seem to read anything.

So, say
Dear Legislator,

Please vote against Assembly Bill 1234.

Sincerely,
That's it. That's plenty.
HOW DO I FIND OUT HOW A CALIFORNIA LEGISLATOR VOTED?
Sacramento BEE used to have a page but they dropped it. Chamber of Commerce and AFL-CIO have special-interest pages, but nothing specializing in gun bills.

A couple other attempts have been made, but seem to have died around 2010. It isn't hard, just tedious. And legislators get to change their votes after the actual vote event, so it can be bit tricky.

WHAT DOES NOT WORK IN CALIFORNIA
INITIATIVES - http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=156804

An 'initiative' gets OUR bill on the ballot, for the voters to pass or reject.

A 'referendum' gets a law passed by the Legislature on the ballot, for the voters to pass or reject.

Summary: much as we would like it to be different, we don't have the votes.
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JB now has until mid-October to act (or not) on bills sent to him. We're immune from most further mischief until the next session begins, late December 2017.

There is no value at all complaining or analyzing or reading tea leaves to decide what these bills really mean or actually do; any bill with a chance to pass will be bad for gun owners.

The details only count after the Governor signs the bills.

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JB now has until mid-October to act (or not) on bills sent to him. We're immune from most further mischief until the next session begins, late December 2017.

There is no value at all complaining or analyzing or reading tea leaves to decide what these bills really mean or actually do; any bill with a chance to pass will be bad for gun owners.

The details only count after the Governor signs the bills.

Not a lawyer, just Some Guy On The Interwebs.


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Thanks for the post Lib! Hopefully this will calm some folks down a little. This kind of stuff isn't passed overnight like it did in New York. The legislative process takes time.
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Got this link today from NRA, hope it helps. It's only for state Senate and Congress and you can enter your address to find out who is your district.

http://www.nrapvf.org/grades-endorse...alifornia.aspx

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Default And if you are considering running for office ...

you should already be aware that money is important.

Here's an article on money and politics, for prospective California legislators: http://calmatters.org/articles/money...idates-listen/
Quote:
High on the agenda: money.

“If you simply take the time and the courtesy to have a conversation with us, and figure out where we agree and where we don’t agree, you might avoid a multimillion dollar I.E. (campaign) against you,” Carlos Marquez, political director of the California Charter Schools Association, said to the roomful of candidates.

“I think that goes for a lot of the folks here,” he said, gesturing across the panel leading a session called, “How to ace a PAC interview.”
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JB now has until mid-October to act (or not) on bills sent to him. We're immune from most further mischief until the next session begins, late December 2017.

There is no value at all complaining or analyzing or reading tea leaves to decide what these bills really mean or actually do; any bill with a chance to pass will be bad for gun owners.

The details only count after the Governor signs the bills.

Not a lawyer, just Some Guy On The Interwebs.


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Default Education Note: effective dates of laws

According to the constitution, most laws become effective Jan 1 after the Governor signs the bills or allows them to become law without his signature.

For most bills, if Jerry signs them in 2017, they go into effect
Jan 1, 2018.

That's the default. Please don't post "when will this law take effect?" Unless you read the bill and find a different date in the bill text itself, assume the default.
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JB now has until mid-October to act (or not) on bills sent to him. We're immune from most further mischief until the next session begins, late December 2017.

There is no value at all complaining or analyzing or reading tea leaves to decide what these bills really mean or actually do; any bill with a chance to pass will be bad for gun owners.

The details only count after the Governor signs the bills.

Not a lawyer, just Some Guy On The Interwebs.



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