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Old 01-26-2013, 3:28 PM
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Default Frustrated with my 2 new rugers

Ruger 1 Mk3 hunter was a JAM-O-MATIC until I spent 150 dollars on VQ parts to upgrade and make it work right. Now she runs fine but the cost was huge after out of state dros/transfer/taxes etc and parts.

Ruger 2 is my brand new 10/22 and what a POS it is. Jams at least once per mag and sometimes 3x per mag.

Failure to feed
Failure to go into full battery
Failure to fire
Failure to everything.

I tried solid 40gr of one brand and 36hp of another and it failed on both. I finally just stuck it back in the case and said F it.

Short of ripping ruger a new one for selling me two guns in a row that dont work for chit what are my options for fixing this at home myself? Any tweaks to make the new plastic guns run correctly?

Sorry for the rant but I also bought two new HK's and both run like a swiss watches and NEVER fail at anything. I wish HK made a 22LR.
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Old 01-26-2013, 3:49 PM
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I'll buy the 10/22 from you.
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Old 01-26-2013, 4:39 PM
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Weird. I own both and they worked well right off. I had to replace trigger on the 10/22 like most do for a smooth easy pull but that's it.
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Old 01-26-2013, 4:50 PM
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Try using premium ammo like mini mags to start. They may need a break-in period. Some may argue that's pointless, but it may work. Give'em a chance. They're both great guns.

And if you decide to sell, my dad and my friend are both looking for a MKIII Hunter. =P
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strip, clean with mpro, lube with militec, put together, shoot federal bulk. No problems in mine with that formula.
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Old 01-26-2013, 5:07 PM
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I have several Rugers and have yet to have an issue with them.
Clean them before use, and assume a typical break in period - after that they run like a champ.
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Clean and lube the action. Rack it back and let it hit home under it's own power...a bunch.

Try a different magazine.

Try another brand ammo. I try to avoid the Remington in my 22lr. Federal seems to be the best. But in these times, guess you have to use what you have.

Send it to Ruger for warranty.
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Old 01-26-2013, 5:11 PM
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What are you using for mags? Factory 10 rounder or bx25?
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Old 01-26-2013, 6:11 PM
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I have a mark 1 heavy barrel that's about 30?? years old and a 10/22 that's at least 20 years old. I've put thousands and thousands of rounds through both and rarely if ever have a problem, and that's with all kinds of .22 ammo. had a few FTF's, but I think that's ammo. and I've had lots of times where I forget to clean in between sessions without a problem.

I'm rather surpirsed. the only problems I've ever encountered are with aftermarket mags. it is entirely possible, and I'm speculating here, that it is ammo related, not ruger. perhaps that batch of ammo was problematic. It's not out of the question.

CCI mini-mags are a great test. they'll be the best check if it's ammo or gun. also, avoid lead bullet .22's. that's about the only thing I've ever had problems with.
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Old 01-26-2013, 6:14 PM
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Ruger makes a lot of weapons, every now and then duds make it through. I have used Ruger's customer service for a probelm with my C9. I'd bet my 100 rounds of CCI mini mags they will make you happy if you give them the chance.
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my mark III HUNTER has been flawless no jams at all
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Old 01-26-2013, 6:37 PM
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Problemchild, I am shocked and sorry to hear of your issues. I have a 10/22 and MKIII 22/45 that have been rather flawless short of the ocasional non firing rimfire cartrige.

The 10/22 is all metal I purchased several years ago, but the 22/45 is obviously plastic.
Assuming you properly stripped and cleaned and lubed the firearms from the start(getting rid of the shipping oil), I would say run them for a few hundred rounds and see what happens. If the issue continues, do not hesitate to contact Ruger!
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Is it possibly a magazine issue? I think you're near me. I have a handful of Ruger 10 rounders - you're welcome to borrow a couple to check it out.
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Old 01-26-2013, 7:09 PM
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My mark 3 hunter was amazing right out of the gate- sorry to hear your bad experience.
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Old 01-26-2013, 9:30 PM
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lube the magazine
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:43 PM
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lube yourself.
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Old 01-27-2013, 6:34 AM
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My Mark III Hunter was also constantly jamming from the moment I took it out of the box. The bullets would also get sliced on the nose when they would hit the feed ramp and I had regular stove-pipe problems with the ejector.

I shipped it back to Ruger and they replaced the ejector bolt on it. They said they fired 40 rounds with no issues after the repair, but I haven't had a chance to fire it yet since they fixed it.

I have read that a lot of other Hunter owners have had these same issues. Hope you get it sorted out.
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Can't speak for the MK 3 but when I first shot my 10/22 it jammed a lot. Purchasing a aftermarket barrel solved the issue. It wasn't that big of a deal because I had planned to upgrade my 10/22 from the get go. YMMV..
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Old 01-27-2013, 9:03 AM
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Round nose bullets always feed fine in my mkii and 10/22. Some flat nosed bullets tend to hang up. Just a thought.
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Old 01-27-2013, 9:11 AM
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As mentioned, disassemble, clean and lube then shoot a brick of CCI mini mags or other HV ammo.

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Problemchild, I am shocked and sorry to hear of your issues. I have a 10/22 and MKIII 22/45 that have been flawless.
I shoot CCI mini-mags, blazer, Winchester and CB's with only the CB's not enough charge to cycle.
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Old 01-27-2013, 9:47 AM
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lube yourself.
Most of my 10/22 problems ended up being magazine-related. Once I disassembled the mags, cleaned, and lubed them things started functioning better. I like this video for the mags:

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Old 01-27-2013, 10:15 AM
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I'd send it back, pronto.

But I did hear about a guy with a Ruger III that wasn't working right and after about the 4th time he disassembled it he found a little sliver of some metal all impacted in the workings. After removing that it worked perfect.

Maybe have someone, ANYONE, else do a dis-assembly/reassemble, just to check yourself.

I'm pretty sure if you send it into Ruger and it turns out it wasn't their fault it is still free as long as it wasn't abused.


PS-I'm not too sure about these guys claiming "never a jam" in 100s or 1000s of rounds of 22lr with cheap ammo. I think most 22 guns will mis-feed fairly often but no one cares or remembers because they clear easy and ammo is "almost free".

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Old 01-27-2013, 10:27 AM
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My mkiii when back to Ruger. Chipped bolt at extractor. Also the frame to receiver fit had slightly loosed due to worn lug on frame. Ruger replaced the bolt, and lug, free. The gun runs perfect now. I was so impressed by Ruger's customer service that I went and bought a new sr9c during the million gun challenge.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:34 AM
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Huh, I bought a 10/22 this past summer and so far I like it. Granted I've only taken it out to shoot once. When I first got it I put around 100 rounds of dirty Colibri ammo while shooting inside my house just for fun. I didn't clean it and a couple of days later we took it out, put a little over 500 rounds of mini mags without a single problem.
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One of my 10/22's was a bit rough the first couple hundred rounds, but after a few cleanings and lube, it seemed to break in nicely and now it runs like a sewing machine.
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I love my new Ruger MKIII 22/45, eats anything. Only thing I have done is: TK Magazine Bushing, VQ Extractor and a trigger polish job. Almost forgot about the Dawson Precision sight I ordered a few days ago.




For the 10/22 I'll pass and go for a Marlin Model 60.
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Remove the MK3's LCI and I bet the feed issues will go away.

Its pretty easy to remove:
Feild strip the receiver from the grip.
Flip over the receiver, find the large pin near the chamber and LCI.
Use a powerful magnet to pull the pin out.
Remove the metal part of the LCI.
Replace the plastic part and the pin.
Tada!

My GF's MK3 22/45 has its LCI and Mag Disconnect removed and a polish job and it runs flawlessly.
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Wow I have 2 rugers I have a takedown and sr22p and They both run great everything is stock no after market parts and they eat anything I feed them yes I do get couple of hiccups once in a while due to bulk ammo but they run almost. Flawless..

You may want to start use cci mini mags then Bulk ammo .. I reather deal with the hickups with bulk ammo then keep on buying cci all the time that's just me
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What ammo? with sticky stuff, my Hunter and 10-22 balk. With good stuff, they are the guns which dreams are made of...
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Rugers usually eat any type of ammo. The only time I have problems in my 10/22 is when I use a butler creek or some other type of aftermarket magazine.

The quality of magazines shipped with the 10/22s does seem like they are lacking some quality control. My buddies mag has 0 spring tension and the ammo just falls into the mag, this left a bitter taste in his mouth for his first Ruger experience.

The one internal part I have replaced on the 10/22 is my ejector and things have worked near flawless for well over 1,000 rounds now. Thought of doing some more internals but things just work too good as is.

Hope you get your problems fixed, Ruger does have great customer service so if you can't find an easy fix send it back and they will make it work. Sorry your out of the box experience was frustrating.
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My 10/22 required a break in period. I bought it off my friend, and the first time i took it out it jammed like crazy. I thought i bought a jacked up gun off him. I continued to put hundreds of rounds through it and eventually it runs flawlessly now. I recommend doing that and also running Frog Lube.
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My 22/45 originally started off not liking anything but Remington GBs and would regularly short stroke the bolt on other brands. Pretty sure the bolt was rubbing one side on the receiver since the blueing has rubbed off on that side more then the other. I never got around to sending it back but now after several thousand rounds the pistol seems to cycle fine on any brand.

The SR22 pistol and 10/22TD I bought recently have both been back to Ruger (at the same time actually). SR22 was returned the first time because the take-down lever broke and was immediatly returned again due to what I thought was simply a misinstalled spring but Ruger said there was bigger issues and replaced the gun.

The 10/22TD went in due to very poor stock to receiver fit. I could stick 4 pieces of ammo box cardboard between them to take up the slack. Ruger had also buggered up the front sight install. I mentioned that I wanted to buy a set of their fire sights and asked that they ship them to me when they returned the rifle. Rifle came back in a new stock (still a "slight" amount of movement though) and had the fire sights installed at no cost for the sight or installation.

In all cases Ruger picked up the cost of shipping both ways and even reimbursed me for the cost of the DROS on the replacement pistol.
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Old 01-29-2013, 9:36 AM
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I have fired 1625 of federal bulk ammo, and 50 rds of Remington crap without a single failure to fire or feed. I do, have about 600 rds start experiences a few failures to extract, but that is better than expected.

You may need to polish off your charging handle. A failure to close all the way (I assume that is what you meant by failure to go into full battery) could be that it is gunky or even bent
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More info please. What brand ammo are you using?

My 22/45 and 10/22 have been flawless with good ammo.

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My 10/22 is 20 years old and has always ran like a top. My only problem was when I used lock tight on my scope base screws, I forgot to take the bolt out first and lock tight ran down onto the bolt. I found this out after it stopped cycling properly. What a pain that red glue is to pick out. I had to heat it up to get it off. So just remember to take your bolt out before you lock tight your base screws.
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I thought Ruger had a lifetime waranty?
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Old 02-12-2013, 6:18 AM
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I have had and expected the issues you described with my Ruger 10/22 and MkIII Standard as well. With the 10/22 I have had a couple problems. After a firing a few thousand rounds the extractor claw rounds off and starts to fail; also the rotary magazines get gummed up and start to fail also, I’ve tried to clean them per Ruger’s instructions with poor results, anymore I just mail gummed up magazines back to Ruger for replacement at no charge I might add. My new MkIII Standard was also a jamomatic until I remover the magazine disconnector and replaced the hammer bushing with a Volquartsen MkII bushing. Since then both guns are 100% reliable with bulk Remington and Federal ammunition.
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My new Mk III was having feed ramp jams with Remington GB. I dressed up the lips on one mag and went back to the range. Then I did not get one FTF or FTE with either mag! Did it just get broken in after 800 rounds? You could search for the mag mod and try that on the MK III.
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