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Old 02-04-2013, 8:05 AM
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Apparently living off the grid, off the land, and without government assistance is now a crime that can land you in jail, and cause you to lose your home.
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A lot of there, but they do point to a disturbing set of precedents.
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That is horrible what they are doing to those people.

The system hates people who do not need it to survive.

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It's far more likely intended for homeless people setting up home in canyons or alleyways than any sort of conspiracy against preppers.
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I think it is pretty scary... I would be pissed.. I would love to own some land like that and live off the land... First thing I would do is build a big *** wall around my property.

Makes sense that the gov wants the land for future development ..
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A lot of there, but they do point to a disturbing set of precedents.
sorry no fud there, disgusting story indeed
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Am I now on some sort of special gooberment list now that I clicked on that link?
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It's far more likely intended for homeless people setting up home in canyons or alleyways than any sort of conspiracy against preppers.
Did you watch the videos? The people own the land and LA is using all kinds of zoning laws to kick them off their OWN land.

First they used small stuff like brush clearing then after they complied they kept coming back with more and more zoning violations and eventually flat out told them they want them to remove everything from their property.
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Am I now on some sort of special gooberment list now that I clicked on that link?
I am sure you clicked on a link a LONG time ago that landed you on some sort of watch list.
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I remember seeing something similar about a year ago...

It's sad really...
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Load of crap. My house is capable of off grid with a throw of a switch. They are not after me. Then again, I did mine with the proper permits and up to code.

The reason those people are off grid is they won't hook them up.

I admire their individualism and thrifty.
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Wow! This is beyond scary! The phonehenge guy actually being put in jail for building his own home. Disgusted!
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Wow! This is beyond scary! The phonehenge guy actually being put in jail for building his own home. Disgusted!
I'd bet money that it was probably due to building without permits or worse, not building to code. Say what you want about permit costs but building codes are there for very good and wise engineering reasons. I don't know whether the above is true but know that cops don't arrest for building homes without something else going on.
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Makes sense that the gov wants the land for future development ..
I think this ^. I think there is going to be some development going on.

Get them out, buy up property, profit.
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But if they where living downtown LA in a cardboard box it would be ok
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But if they where living downtown LA in a cardboard box it would be ok
sad but true. they will even give you entitlements and encourage you to suck on thy teet. call me on your obamaphone if you disagree
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That is horrible what they are doing to those people.

The system hates people who do not need it to survive.

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But if they where living downtown LA in a cardboard box it would be ok
Or if they squat in my neighbors foreclosed home because OBOZO cost him his job and he couldnt make his house payments, its OK.
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Did you watch the videos? The people own the land and LA is using all kinds of zoning laws to kick them off their OWN land.

First they used small stuff like brush clearing then after they complied they kept coming back with more and more zoning violations and eventually flat out told them they want them to remove everything from their property.
They have been doing this for a couple of years. This is nuts! We are talking about people in the middle of the desert. It is why they live there; to be left alone!
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What a wreck. America (California) has become so sought after laws and regulations that can produce revenue for the local and state governments that people cant even be people anymore. People are what drive this country, High, Middle or low class, does not matter. Everyone has a right to live/survive they way they please. This is the first I am hearing about this and I am sick.
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That is horrible what they are doing to those people.

The system hates people who do not need it to survive.

Tyrants fear Free men, thus they seek to oppress them.
"Tyrants fear Free men"

I had to make this into a sticker for my truck. Very well put.
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I'd bet money that it was probably due to building without permits or worse, not building to code. Say what you want about permit costs but building codes are there for very good and wise engineering reasons. I don't know whether the above is true but know that cops don't arrest for building homes without something else going on.
Seriously guys...this is the reason why. There are building codes and standards that need to be met. Take the situation/people/building out of the desert and say they tried to build their house without proper building techniques in the middle of a populated city...it would be no different. Code enforcement would come down and issue a cease and desist order then tell them to stop building / inhabiting their homes. Now I'm not saying that some if not many permit fees/government agencies are a waste of money and time but for the most part in the building arena, (and I have a lot of experience in construction), it's usually good to have inspectors looking over things.

Look at what happens in 3rd world countries that do not have standard building codes and people are free to build whatever they want with whatever materials they want. Massive catastrophies. Then when issues do happen, i.e. buildings collapse, people get hurt, they expect the government to rescue them...much worse they sue because people are entitled and expect other people to be responsible for the **** they themselves started/created.

Don't believe everything you read on the internet or the so called news that's put out there to stir up people...
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I'd bet money that it was probably due to building without permits or worse, not building to code. Say what you want about permit costs but building codes are there for very good and wise engineering reasons. I don't know whether the above is true but know that cops don't arrest for building homes without something else going on.
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If it is a crime in that area, then those people should be removed from office. That's my opinion. I would leave that area and then try to fix it. Obviously you can't live off the grid in a neighborhood but you can practice the skills.
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I suppose you believe everything your government tells you, and that they are there for your well-being.
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I'd bet money that it was probably due to building without permits or worse, not building to code. Say what you want about permit costs but building codes are there for very good and wise engineering reasons. I don't know whether the above is true but know that cops don't arrest for building homes without something else going on.
so ****ing WHAT?
if the house is not built to code: WHAT IS THE DAMAGE?

I should be free to ride a motorcycle without a helmet.. because the ONLY risk I am taking is with MY OWN LIFE and the government has no place there.

same with my OWN ****ING HOUSE. if I want to sell it to someone else, then that is a different story. if the house is built unsafe, and collapses on me, then that's my problem. if it collapses on someone else, WELL THEN we see a crime has been committed.


arresting people for victimless crimes is NOT what America is. IT'S NOT
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so ****ing WHAT?
if the house is not built to code: WHAT IS THE DAMAGE?

I should be free to ride a motorcycle without a helmet.. because the ONLY risk I am taking is with MY OWN LIFE and the government has no place there.

same with my OWN ****ING HOUSE. if I want to sell it to someone else, then that is a different story. if the house is built unsafe, and collapses on me, then that's my problem. if it collapses on someone else, WELL THEN we see a crime has been committed.


arresting people for victimless crimes is NOT what America is. IT'S NOT

^^^This Exactly, I understand the the building codes are there for safety reasons but it disbanded but of an over reach by our government
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Dam autocorrect, but it is a bit of an overreach by out government.
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its sad, but structures have to be to code maybe they should have trailers and motorhomes
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so ****ing WHAT? If the house is not built to code: WHAT IS THE DAMAGE?

I should be free to ride a motorcycle without a helmet.. because the ONLY risk I am taking is with MY OWN LIFE and the government has no place there.

same with my OWN ****ING HOUSE. if I want to sell it to someone else, then that is a different story. if the house is built unsafe, and collapses on me, then that's my problem.
That's fine, if you can pay the health costs, otherwise it's just entitlement disguised as freedom. There are a lot of people who feel they should be allowed to do whatever they want but won't accept the responsitibility that comes with it, thinking nothing of you and I paying for the consequences of their "freedom."

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Seriously guys...this is the reason why. There are building codes and standards that need to be met. Take the situation/people/building out of the desert and say they tried to build their house without proper building techniques in the middle of a populated city...it would be no different. Code enforcement would come down and issue a cease and desist order then tell them to stop building / inhabiting their homes. Now I'm not saying that some if not many permit fees/government agencies are a waste of money and time but for the most part in the building arena, (and I have a lot of experience in construction), it's usually good to have inspectors looking over things.

Look at what happens in 3rd world countries that do not have standard building codes and people are free to build whatever they want with whatever materials they want. Massive catastrophies. Then when issues do happen, i.e. buildings collapse, people get hurt, they expect the government to rescue them...much worse they sue because people are entitled and expect other people to be responsible for the **** they themselves started/created.

Don't believe everything you read on the internet or the so called news that's put out there to stir up people...
+1,000. Seriously everyone, get permits and you'll be fine.
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No, they want the freedom to do whatever they want, with you and me paying their medical bills - since they also believe that they shouldn't be forced to have coverage...

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+1,000. Seriously everyone, get permits and you'll be fine.
permits? we dont need no stinking permits!!! who cares if my makeshift septic is draining strait into the ground water ? who care if i dump used oil on my property ? who cares if i make my house out of old pallets and glass beer bottles and we have a quake ? ... come on now its WWOL already isnt it ? i sure hope so or i wasted a bunch of $ on my newest mad max rig ...

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Believe it or not, many people are able to conceive of individual liberty in a way that does not force others to pay for their medical care. There are people who wish the medical system would leave them alone and let them die in dignified peace. Lots of people do make the connection between personal freedom and personal responsibility.
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And yet, there is an non-profit organization called "TreePeople" in Coldwater Canyon Park in Los Angeles (Coldwater and Mulholland) that has been granted the use of the park and over the past 25 years or so, has built numerous illegal, unpermitted structures, replete with plumbing and electrical service, none of which was permitted or insepcted.

The offices of this organization are a series of seven "yurts", for which TreePeople was granted a temporary certificate of occupancy, good for 18 months. This expired over 8 years ago and since then, there have been un-inspected and unpermitted structures added to the compound. No proper access for wheelchairs exists, not even the required signage and parking spaces.

This goes unchecked and un -enforced because the politicians who support this non-profit organization love to have their picture taken with the directors of TreePeople. It makes for good press and gives the politicos the "green" look.

Anyone own a home near this park? "Green" could turn to charred black if one of the 200 amp service panels up there installed by Bubba and never inspected happens to light up and catch the canyon on fire. Also, there is a man living in one of the yurts whose "gray water" dumps directly into a ravine about 40 yards from what I would guess is about a twoo million dollar house. I'll bet if that homeowner ran his sewage into the same ravine, he'd catch a bust right quick and a healthy fine.

Los Angeles Department of Building and Safety has been notified of these violations (by me actually) and continues to either look the other way or cave in to pressure from the mayor and others.

Shameful hypocrisy, and clearly quid pro quo from the politicians to allow that mess to exist up there. If anyone is in a wheelchair and wants to file a lawsuit and make some money out of the city coffers, TreePeople is a sitting duck.
But if you are Joe Blow living in the desert a mile from your closest neighbor, you will be shut down. I understand the need for building codes, but what is good for the regular population should also apply to the city and county facilities.

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I used to date a girl who worked in the la planning department.

It is everything bad you think it is and worse.

If people speak up about it, they get transferred to desks with nothing to do in the middle of nowhere with no chance for career advancement.
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Wait till you live next to one of these places, my place was a half mile from theirs. Their failed septic system, polluting the creek that runs thru my property, Burning trash, car farming, escaped control burns, livestock that they can't keep on their own property, meth labs and dumping of the chemicals. The list goes on and on.

I bought that place at a tax auction and bulldozed the shack they called "home", I should have just waited till the place caught fire with all the wiring and propane issues in the place. I removed 23 dead cars and trucks off that place. They only "lived there" 5 years.

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So many places in the desert look like land fills and eye sores.

There is no conspiracy here, just cleaning the eye sores up. Shesh.
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