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Maybe they'll outlaw buttocks too, since you can technically beat someone to death with one--LMAO.
I think that ol' gal lives on my street!
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In other completely unrelated news... reloading supplies are becoming hard to find.
Thanks a lot for mentioning hand loading.

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One consideration is that if I have a 10/30 mag, it still holds ten rounds only, but takes more room. I can carry less. To ban mags that appear to hold more, but in fact hold 10, would serve no rational basis, and in the very unlikely situation of a mass shooting with someone using 10/30 mags or the like, it would mean he could carry less ammo, than smaller 10 rounders
Of course it would, it would cut down drastically on DiFi's Depends costs.
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Banning something from out of state is against free trade and commerce laws, no?

It should be but, no; the commerce clause is the most hideously distorted part of the constitution.
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Should I be buying loads of ammo, or has this bill already passed I am confused.
All you need is enough to get through the first fire fight. After that you will be dead or you will be using the other guy's ammo.
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For the love of god - use the multi-quote
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I know the safety nazis will kill me for this, but there's nothing like a mag dump of .223 tracer rounds at night out of your AR with a little bit of firewater in your system. Man what a feeling!
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At what point do legal citizens simply give up and say, "f it" to this mess? I know I'm already there. I'm so tired of complying to the whims of these idiots.
So what does "f it" mean? You are ready to get rid of your guns and quit fighting? Or you have decided that this is the hill you are (literally) willing to die on? If you know of any other options please share.
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"The bill would revise the definition of “large-capacity magazine” to mean any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, including a readily restorable, as defined, disassembled large-capacity magazine, and an oversize magazine body that appears to hold in excess of 10 rounds. The bill would make related, conforming changes. By creating a new crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program."
I had to laugh a little at the bit about "creating new crime" -- sigh. You know you are up the wrong tree when you are making crimes where there were none before.

Oh wait, we do have crime... but we don't do enough about it in the first place!

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As to the ammunition reporting language, whats to stop "Ammunition Dealers" from reporting the ammo themselves to the DoJ without this law in effect?
Customer walks into store and buys 300 rounds of ammunition, clerk files 300 separate reports of a sale of a single bullet.

Seriously tho its still a bad idea, just thought it would be funny in this instance
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As to the ammunition reporting language, whats to stop "Ammunition Dealers" from reporting the ammo themselves to the DoJ without this law in effect?
Customer walks into store and buys 300 rounds of ammunition, clerk files 300 separate reports of a sale of a single bullet.

Seriously tho its still a bad idea, just thought it would be funny in this instance
Because if you go to a range and put your rifle or carbine on a bench bag or rig and carefully fire off one round every three seconds for a 30 minute period between line breaks you'll go through 600 rounds.

300 rounds for a person who regularly practices their marksmanship skills is N O T H I N G.
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Yeah, that's funny, but would you be willing to lose your firearms license over something like that?
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These arent the 30 rounders you're looking for...its a 10rd 458 socom rebuild kit!
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:03 PM
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Yeah, that's funny, but would you be willing to lose your firearms license over something like that?



That is not the weakness in the system. The real fallacy is that it is another unfunded mandate. In our county the Sheriff’s Dept. has to release multiple offense car thieves, because they need the jail space for violent offenders. They are months behind in processing LTC applications because we are virtually ‘shall issue’ and they can’t afford the personnel to keep up. Now, what do you think is going to happen to that DOJ alert about Joe Blow buying 500 Rnds. Of 9mm? Yep, right in the round file.
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Unfortunately, this state is so screwed up that they would probably make investigating the guy that bought 500 rds of 9mm a priority.
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Why hasn't NRA sued states which already ban Internet/mail order ammo sales?
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Good question. I'd also like to know what the NRA is doing to help states like our's, NY and NJ keep our guns via the 2nd Amendment besides telling us to write our elected officials. Which I do at least once a week.
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Wonder what would happen if, say, every gun owner was to buy or order 1000 rounds of ammo the day the law went into effect? Just a thought. They might get done investigating the reports by, oh say, 2020.
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Wonder what would happen if, say, every gun owner was to buy or order 1000 rounds of ammo the day the law went into effect? Just a thought. They might get done investigating the reports by, oh say, 2020.
That was my reaction. If this gets passed and goes into law I think we have to do that. Start saving now people!
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That was my reaction. If this gets passed and goes into law I think we have to do that. Start saving now people!
And for extra goodness, and to get people involved who can't afford to buy 1000 round lots, we can sell the same ammo to each other, over and over, back and forth, many times a day.
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And for extra goodness, and to get people involved who can't afford to buy 1000 round lots, we can sell the same ammo to each other, over and over, back and forth, many times a day.
I saw something like that one time- the local brass decreed that when multiple persons needed to salute "in passing" that each person had to individually salute each other in descending seniority.

That lasted until people started "ambushing" the head shed by having 4,5, or more people converge one senior officer at once. multiple times.
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Exclamation AB 48 to be heard in Assembly Public Safety April 2nd

This bill and AB 169 are set to be heard in committee this Tuesday. NRA sent out an alert on this today. Our office will repost the alert via calgunlaws tomorrow. Please call, write and fax the committee members before Tuesday and spread the word.

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/st...aspx?s=&st=&ps

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I wrote emails Thursday, I'll call on Monday.
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anti-human rights extremists are going after everything they can think of...

http://legiscan.com/gaits/search?sta...eyword=firearm
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Just called the committee members.
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Faxes sent. Again.

... and again because of a small typo

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Love how they block contact if you are not in their district....

Looks like firearmpolicy.org works to email them all
http://www.firearmspolicy.org/the-is...013-2014/ab48/
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Just called the committee members.
Called to oppose AB 169 and AB 48 -will email after work today at 1500.
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Reading the text shows ammo purchases above _____ rounds will be reported to law enforcement, how can they leave the # blank?
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Reading the text shows ammo purchases above _____ rounds will be reported to law enforcement, how can they leave the # blank?
probably TBD (to be determined)... finalized version will most likely have the number.
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edit: re-read existing code. Nevermind.

Emails sent.. for whatever good they do. At least I can say I went on the record.
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Reading the text shows ammo purchases above _____ rounds will be reported to law enforcement, how can they leave the # blank?
Well clearly if you buy more than zero rounds it's supposed to be reported to law enforcement!
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Reading the text shows ammo purchases above _____ rounds will be reported to law enforcement, how can they leave the # blank?

Bill is not yet in it's final form. The Bill's author probably didn't know what to put in for the number of rounds, figured it would get hashed out in hearings and debate. Will be amended with a real number (preferably an integer ) before it's in final form and gets voted on by the whole legislature.
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Will be amended with a real number (preferably an integer ) before it's in final form and gets voted on by the whole legislature.
An imaginary number would be more in their wheelhouse.
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I used FPC.org to send emails and noticed that most of them say to go through their own website if you want to correspond with them. I emailed my representatives directly through the website.

If you used FPC.org you might want to take the time to make sure they haven't requested that you use their website to submit comments.
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I've tried emailing the Public Safety Committee members, but the websites will not let me submit, as my ZIP code places me out of thier respective areas of representation. Solution?
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Strange, last week I email the all using the links the NRA-ILA had in their alert. In fact I emailed them them twice. The other one was about AB 871, improving language in the current concealed carry law.
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