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Old 02-01-2013, 10:43 AM
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When the rubber hits the road, when the stark and very real choice is either empty political posturing with useless gun control laws or doing something practical to protect your children, the only people laughing at the NRA are a media determined to protect anything and everything involving Barack Obama. Today the Newtown Board of Education made the only choice any parent can: It voted to put armed guards in its schools:
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We Won. Just wait till this appears on the Evening news, this will knock the wind out of their sails and leave them DEAD IN THE WATER.
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Finally. Some ****ing common sense from beaurocrats.
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Dumb. Guns aren't the solution to the problem because guns aren't the CAUSE of the problem. The whole thing is a red herring (from EITHER side) and it stinks.
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Dumb. Guns aren't the solution to the problem because guns aren't the CAUSE of the problem. The whole thing is a red herring (from EITHER side) and it stinks.
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We Won. Just wait till this appears on the Evening news, this will knock the wind out of their sails and leave them DEAD IN THE WATER.
This will never see the light of day. The mainstream media will bury it as they always bury any agenda that goes against their leftist propaganda.
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NBC Connecticut at least has picked up on it -

http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/l...189320221.html
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I doubt they can bury someting as big as this, there are no secrets in this country.
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Dumb. Guns aren't the solution to the problem because guns aren't the CAUSE of the problem. The whole thing is a red herring (from EITHER side) and it stinks.
I agree, but i don't see having armed guards on schools as a bad thing from a PR point of view.
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Sharing this. This needs to be seen. We're just preaching to the choir here.
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Dumb. Guns aren't the solution to the problem because guns aren't the CAUSE of the problem. The whole thing is a red herring (from EITHER side) and it stinks.
You are totally correct. Your post is totally dumb.
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Finally, some common sense....DUH!
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Dumb. Guns aren't the solution to the problem because guns aren't the CAUSE of the problem. The whole thing is a red herring (from EITHER side) and it stinks.
I agree that guns aren't the problem, nut cases are the problem. However, most nut cases are cowards which is why the vast majority of these events happen in gun free zones and the second that these nuts are confronted by someone that is armed, they usually surrender or commit suicide. Based on this alone, it is "dumb" to not acknowledge that guns in the hands of the good guys are a solution in many cases.
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Dumb. Guns aren't the solution to the problem because guns aren't the CAUSE of the problem. The whole thing is a red herring (from EITHER side) and it stinks.
And fire extinguishers have nothing to do with causing fires. Yet when you HAVE a fire, nothing less will do.
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"WE WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY: PLEASE DO NOT ASSUME WE AGREE WITH THE NRA JUST BECAUSE WE ARE FOLLOWING ITS ADVICE TO THE LETTER."
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Right on! This will prevent further tragedy for sure. It will probably be buried on the back page knowing the liberal media.
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Shared on Reddit for what it's worth. http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/com...med_guards_in/
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All those people complaining about the TSA, now endorsing armed guards at schools, potentially moving to frisk your kids on the incredibly slight possibility that such an event should occur again.... oh man. Yes, it'll occur again, but I doubt the guard will be in the right spot at the right time or hmmm... have called in sick, like the guard at Columbine.

People complain about teachers being overpaid, zero resources at our schools for after school events (which could work wonders for a lot of kids who lack role models, like their own damned parents), only one nurse per district as opposed to one nurse per school, no janitors and teachers having to do janitorial work. Hey, but maybe the guard can also be the janitor to keep him/her busy during the endless hours of boredom and frisking kids... ha

Now go ahead and call me "dumb" like you have insulted and referred to fellow Calgunners who are well aware this is a ridiculous and unsustainable solution.
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I doubt they can bury someting as big as this, there are no secrets in this country.
The far left media misinformation mafia will cover it to some degree, but will undoubtedly put their inimitable far left spin on it -

"The Newtown Board of Education CAVED IN to the NRA!!!" - Um, no, they used common sense.

"Nobody is thinking about the trauma that will be inflicted on sweet, innocent children when they see guards (gasp!!) with holstered assault death pistols with 500 round clip magazine thingies!" - Uh, I suppose seeing classmates and teachers slaughtered in cold blood is less traumatic, eh?

"Where will the money come from? School districts can't afford to have armed guards!" - When the f**k has spending ever concerned the left? The money is there alright; it is being wasted on the bloated, overpaid school bureaucracy and so-called school support staff.

Besides, I read a few days after the tragedy in Newtown that there were already armed guards or police in 23,000 of our nations schools.
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count on the "tolerant" left wing media to pick on each and every board member and throw as much dirt on them to make them look like unstable people unqualified for making such decisions.
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Im pretty sure Fox World news will pick up on it. I dont agree with everything that comes out of their mouths but they have been doing a good job of 2A..also the pro-gun talk radio hosts like Larry Elder....He has a pretty wide audience that even contains the leftys..
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I agree that guns aren't the problem, nut cases are the problem. However, most nut cases are cowards which is why the vast majority of these events happen in gun free zones and the second that these nuts are confronted by someone that is armed, they usually surrender or commit suicide. Based on this alone, it is "dumb" to not acknowledge that guns in the hands of the good guys are a solution in many cases.
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I just checked Headline news feeders at:
Google, Bing, Yahoo, & couple others.

I did not see any reference to Newton voting for Armed Guards.
Plenty of biased stuff like this:

CNN...
"Americans, even NRA members, want gun reforms"
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/31/opinion/glaze-gun-control

The Washington Post...
"Law shielding gun makers poses obstacle for Newtown parents"
http://www.sgvtribune.com/news/ci_22...wn-parents#top



When I did a specific search, finally got a few local hits:
"Newtown Education Board Wants Police Officers in All Elementary Schools"

http://www.countytimes.com/articles/...0443529729.txt

Any media coverage will be low key, UNTIL they can find enough
"outraged" parents who oppose the Newton B.o.Education voting
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It should be remembered that one of Obama's EO's included encouraging schools to post a resource officer. Not sure if a guard is a peace officer but Newtown isn't the only one who agrees with the NRA when it comes to an immediate and practical solution.
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A "good guy with a gun" does not have to be a cop.
But putting cops in schools is a sane way for folk to get used to the idea.
Once GFZ's are repealed and teachers/staff (who *want* to and are prepared to be trained) can carry, the school districts can save some $$.
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It should be remembered that one of Obama's EO's included encouraging schools to post a resource officer. Not sure if a guard is a peace officer but Newtown isn't the only one who agrees with the NRA when it comes to an immediate and practical solution.
The article indicated this would be a SRO (School Resource Officer), who would be an armed police officer, and an unarmed security guard type.
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I'm not much in favor of teachers with a CCW. Yea most teachers can be responsible but there will be that one who leaves it out, forgets it, or accidentaly a kid gets it and shoots himself or another kid on accident or on purpose. I like the SRO idea that way a trained professional will have the fire arm. Depending on the population of the school maybe 2 or more armed SROs. Maybe one not in uniform. Bravo to the school for making the choice to protect their children.
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We need to spread the news far and wide. Include as many different news articles as possible. The ComLibs will try to ignore just Breitbart or Fox.
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Right on! This will prevent further tragedy for sure. It will probably be buried on the back page knowing the liberal media.


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Dumb. Guns aren't the solution to the problem because guns aren't the CAUSE of the problem. The whole thing is a red herring (from EITHER side) and it stinks.
Disagree that gun aren't the (temporary) solution to the problem as seen by Newtown.

Problem is people, in Newtown's case, homicidal, insane people. There is a non-zero amount of time which will elapse before we can get a handle on them. Might be quite a long time even if we commit to some serious research, and I have my doubts about our willingness to fund such research, especially for the amount of time that will be required to have a chance at useful results (if any are even possible).

So until we "solve" that problem, the parents in Newtown are PTSD-ing all over this. How can they protect their kids today, given that research is at least decades (if not centuries) away from helping them? What will stop another illegally-armed psycho bent on mass murder?

Only good guys with guns bent on preventing such acts. There's no scanner, no dogs, no policy, nothing else that can work TODAY, and that's the problem, as the people in Newtown see it.
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You are totally correct. Your post is totally dumb.
No, it's not dumb.

It shows a very clear shift in general thinking about the issue, and very clearly aligns the NRA is having the right idea/s - Newtown agrees with them / us.

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Dumb. Guns aren't the solution to the problem because guns aren't the CAUSE of the problem. The whole thing is a red herring (from EITHER side) and it stinks.
Obama disagrees, but then we are not allowed to call him on it because it's tasteless to point out hypocrisy of the dear leader.
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I agree that guns aren't the problem, nut cases are the problem. However, most nut cases are cowards which is why the vast majority of these events happen in gun free zones and the second that these nuts are confronted by someone that is armed, they usually surrender or commit suicide. Based on this alone, it is "dumb" to not acknowledge that guns in the hands of the good guys are a solution in many cases.
Exactly...
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