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Make jigs available for KTO 1911's so people can finish them at home. Estimated cost $150 141 47.64%
Add cutting the picatinny rail cuts+flaring the magwell to build party for another $30 per frame. 184 62.16%
Offer engraving service at build party ($35 for text or $75 for text and an image) 107 36.15%
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Default KTO 80% 1911 frames and Rock Island Complete parts kit group buy. Closed

Group buy is now closed.
PLEASE READ this entire post before ordering. Group buy will close 2/16/13 2/23/13 payments are due 3/1/13


KTO 80% 1911 frames.

Retail is $360, they will be $325 each for this group buy KTO has agreed to give us the option to have them cut the slots in the picatinny rail and flare the magwell, if you would like to have this option done to your frames please add $30 per frame that you want done. These frames are all steel including the grip and the design is the same as as standard full size 1911 except they have a full length picatiny rail and a flared magwell. To complete these paper weights into firearms you will need to cut the rails for the slide, cut the barrel seat, and drill the holes for the hammer and the safety. Optional work: The picitany rail will need the grooves cut in it if you want to use it and the flared magwell will need to be opened up a little bit if you want the "funnel effect" when you're changing your mags during a match. The optional work is just that, optional, and doesn't need to be done to complete the frame into a functional firearm.

The main spring housing is a one piece design and eliminates the grip safety, they don't offer the standard main spring housing that would work with a standard grip safety anymore so there is not an option for one. These frames are one of the nicest 80% products out there, I have been extremely pleased with mine and everyone that I've showed it to just loves it and wants to get one.




Rock Island Armory Complete parts kit.

Retail is $500, they will be $350 each for this group buy. These kits come with everything needed to build your KTO frame except the magazine. The slide will NOT have the RIA name or logo engraved on it per my request for our order. The grips are a simple wood grip. No parts will be available seperately and the kit shown is the only one available on the group buy.



Please don't PM me your order. I will get it here off the thread as soon as I can and add it to the list in post #2 or #3.


Regarding payment:
Please include your CGN user name and your shipping adress with your payment! Payments are due by March 1st. Please also note what you are paying for example: qty. KTO frame + qty. 1 RIA parts kit This will help make it easier for me to track everything.

USPS MO Payments (no personal checks or other money orders please)
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Aimsmall Arms, Inc.
197 Woodland Pkwy, Ste 104
San marcos, ca 92069-3020.

PAYPAL CAN NO LONGER BE ACCEPTED DUE TO THEIR ANTI-GUN POLICIES.

Chase quick pay: Doesn't charge the 4% fee that paypal does and they don't have an anti gun policy. You can now send payments to me via Chase quick pay at AimsmallArms@gmail.com Please add $1 if using this option.
Thank you.



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Both vendors have given me a 3 month eta from the time we place/pay for the order which will be right around March 10th.



Build party I don't have a date set for a 1911 party and we have not done a full 1911 party yet. We have done 3 of these builds so far, all in one night. The run time for the parts was about 20 minutes so a build party is feasible. The plan is to do a group of 10 of them with some friends to see how a party would go and proceed from there.







Please include your CGN user name and your shipping address with your payment! Please also note what you are paying for example: qty. KTO frame + qty. 1 RIA parts kit This will help make it easier for me to track everything.


Please ask questions here if it's something I should have covered but missed. PM me for more unique types of questions that don't really pertain to everyone else.

Here's a pic of the KTO frames.




Here's a completed 1911 using the KTO frame and the RIA parts kit..(shown only for visual referance, I do not sell firearms, only paper weights and parts.)




And the other side



I know people are going to ask about jigs so... I have been able to make the jigs myself and they are available for use if we host a build party but I don't have them for sale, if you would buy a jig should we make them available please post that with your order, if there's enough interest I will try to make the jigs available for sale with this order. Update on jigs, due to lack of interest I will not be making jigs at this time, if things change and there is a demand for 100 jigs I can look at making them again. Update on Jigs 12/23/13: We are making the jigs, see post #5


*Pictures are for reference only, completed recievers are not for sale here*
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Order list and status

Shipped Tuesday 10/15/13
brian697 2KC2R 1BP MO $1410
Rooftop Voter 1KC2R DEP $1055
Useless 1KC1R 1BP MO $705
Bru 1K1R MO $675
PachecoFTW 1K1KC MO $680
thekid96 2KC MO $710
Sully 1KC MO $705 sold R to ScottYo
Totenkopf 1KC MO $355
Shootermedic 1KC MO $355
moparmoneyman 1KC PP $355
Justincase855 1K QP $326
Egreen6823 sold to xbguru 1KC1R 1BP P $705

Shipped Monday 9/30/13

jsuros 1KC1R 1BP MO $705
Jubz 1KC2R 1BP MO $1055
SelfGovernor 1KC1R7M 1BP MO $705 + $123
chremicon 1KC1R 1BP QP $706
boxcutter3005 1KC1R 1BP MO $705
Saintless 2KC3R6M MO $1760 + $105
Catalyst 2KC2R MO $700 + $710
lamduh 1KC1R MO $705
lorax3 1KC1R 1BP MO $705
454CA 1R MO $350
DC00 2K2R MO $1350
vma03 1KC1R MO $705
YoungKee 1K1R2M 1BP MO $675 + $35
Cactus_Tim 2KC2R5M 1BP MO $705 + $87.50 + $705
ricardooooooooo 1KC1R 1BP MO $705
Raigok 1KC1R 1BP QP $706
monsterhook 1KC1R 1BP QP $706
cool_as_crap 1R 1BP QP $351
GTurner 3KC3R 3BP QP $2116
daves100 1KC3R6M 1BP QP $1056 + $351+ $110
Tom Swift 1KC1R6M MO $705 + $105
joebrock 2KC 2BP MO $710
DPmax 1KC1R4M 1BP MO $705 + $70
Marley 1KC1R 1BP MO $705
Beer_guy 1KC1R MO $2115
darthsideous 1KC1R2M 1BP 1 jig MO $705 + $35
Hardhat 1KC1R3M 1BP MO $705 + $52.50
BMartin1776 1K1R 1BP MO $675
RSC510 5KC4R2M QP $2471 + $35

Shipped Monday 9/23/13
762shooter 4KC 4BPQP $1301 +$121
bauern 1K1R 1 jig MO $675
Kowski 1R MO $350
jackandjill 2KC2R 2BP QP $1412
kingnitro1 1KC1R 1BP QP $706
bhands 1KC1R QP $706
driftstalker 1KC MO Paid $355
wackychung 1KC 1BP MO $355
Wojtek 1K 1BP $325
phaser 1K1R QP $676
Mike F. 1KC1R $705
MarkW 1KC 1BP $355
Jesse 1K1R5M
Enthusiast 1KC1R 1BP xoxo $705
h0use 2KC2R 1BP Confirmed

Shipping 12/12/13
hic28 5KC4R MO $2470
rickandfun 1KC1R 1BP MO $705 5M
skkeeter 1K2R 1 jig MO $735 + $350
najay 1K1R QP $676
lgg1911 1KC1R 1BP QP $706
Slap 1KC1R 1BP QP $706
coma13 2KC2R 2BP QP $1411
Bakersfield_Grizzly 2K2R4M 1BP 1 jig QP $1061 + $71 + bought 1R from trident
NorCalMik 1KC1R QP $706
propman07 2KC2R4M 1BP QP $166 + $540 + QP $35 from QD GB
NatesDad sold to propman07 1KC1R 1BP QP $706
Lostsheep 2R6M QP $702 + $105
Squirly 1KC1R3M 1BP QP $706 + $53.50 (made by skate)
phyta_rx 5KC5R 5BP QP $3526
G Wilikers 4R MO $700 + $700
VaderSpade 3R10M QP $1051 + MO $175 ship Zymergists's too
Zymergist 2R MO $700 Ship to Vaderspade
Istillbleedgreen 1KC1R 1BP QP $706
Cannon-Arms 3R 1BP MO $350 + $400 + $300
BlackCatRacing#13 1KC1R 1BP MO $705 5M
spdrcr 2KC2R Paid by beer_guy and eyestothesky
AJ Machine 3K3R MO $2025
jqpham 2KC2R12M MO $1410 + $210
BranNutz 2KC2R 1BP QP $706 + $705
PanchoVilla 1KC1R 2 KTO frames + $30
af306 5KC5R 5BP MO $3525
SWLJR 4KC4R 2BP MO $1410 + $1410
tshong 1R P$350
bigcalidave 2KC2R QP $1410 confirm address before shipping.
fiferronald 1R MO $350
psssniper 9R 1BP MO $3150
ScottYo 2KC2R4M 1BP MO $1060 + $70 + bought from Sully
Buckbuster30 2KC2R $1410
Yugo 2KC2R 2BP MO $1350 owes $60
Dazzlebert 1KC1R3M QP $706 + $53.50
Trident 0R Confirmed late P $620 + $85 sold one to pubert and one to Bakersfield_Grizzly
BigCat 1KC1R3M QP $759 need address
MountainShooter 1R MO $350
Pubert 1KC2R2M $740 bought 1R from trident
LuciusKang 1KC1R 1BP QP $706 refunded 12/11/13 via QP

Ready for pick up as of 12/11/13
bmacpolo 1R $350
C4Charlie 4KC2R 2BP $2120
Mark13 2R4M 2BP MO $700 + QP $71
Kenji08 1KC1R 10M


Pending PM request. 12/11/13
oogiemonsta 1K2R MO $1025
d.schulz 1K4R 1BP MO $1725


Estimated Totals
KTO frames 100
RIA Parts Kits 108
Build party interest 79

Members who cancelled their orders (thanks for letting me know guys )
JavaBrewer 1K1R 1BP
Terryw123 1KC
TheChisel 1K1R 1BP
mcnm 1K1R
ImYourSalt 1KC1R 1BP
nssurge 1K1R
Braker218 1KC1R 1BP
davebw226 1K1R 1BP
Civilitant 2KC2R 2BP
munkeeboi 1R
slunk0844 1R
Diskrete 1KC 1BP
MFortie 1K1R 1BP
smwann 1K1R 1BP
plinko 1R
AsianAnts 1K1R 1BP
lwehttam 2K2R 2BP
556guy 1K
iceman710 1K1R 1BP
doug5551 1K1R 1BP
kiltlad 1K 1BP
Josh. 2K2R 1BP
dredgeman 1KC1R 1 jig
J_Rizza 2K2R 2BP
Baja Jones 1K1R 1BP
Intimid8tor 1K1R 1 jig
Woody13 1K1R 1BP
xbguru 1KC1R 1BP
sansoo99 1K1R 1BP
Diezel 1K1R 1BP
ogrestomp 2KC2R 1BP
eMoney 1K1R 1BP
Mikearfifteen83 1K
Pointcrossed 1K1R 1BP
chonrsinway8 1K1R 1BP QP $706 refunded via QP
OsirisD 1K1R 1BP Confirmed late

Cancelled due to lack of communication
solaris3000 1K1R 1BP
Saguarosizzle 1K 1BP
brokentapedeck 1K1R 1BP
norcrawler 1K1R
Rookie Ring 1K1R
lbc710 1K1R 1BP
anhero 2K1R 1BP
FIREBALL_BRIAN 1R
Triad 1K1R 1BP
GilJose 2K2R 2BP
Shoot'nPlumber 1K1R 1BP
nickyrr 2K2R 1BP
Pubert 1KC1R 1BP
Sideways 3KC3R 3BP
fiveofnine 1KC1R 1BP
lowriderryda 1KC
Colt4colt 1KC1R 1BP
wideboard 1K1R 1BP
HOOKANDBOOK 1KC1R
AR_15 1K1R 1BP
MedicWill 1KC1R 1BP Confirmed ITM
Dark Sky Solutions 1R Confirmed late
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RIA has agreed to sell us 7 round mags. I'm taking orders for them at $17.50 each. Please let me know if you want to add some to your order and how many. They said they will ship the mags with the parts kits.




Mags are a go!
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Here's where we are at with the jig. Everything is pretty much done on the design and prototype. I do intend to have the bolt holes for the top plate counter sunk on the final version of the jig like they are on the side plates and the jigs will be anodized.

Hardened steel drill bushings on both sides, 4 steel locating pins to place your frame in the correct position before machining, 3 bolts to secure side plates together, guides on both sides for cutting the rails with a regular end mill (no key cutter needed), guide for cutting the barrel seat. The jigs are designed specifically to prevent the cutters on your end mills from ever being able to contact the jig. Everything is here to make finishing these frames a breeze. I still need to make instructions and a tool list to go with the jigs but I have a little time to get that done before the jigs are ready to ship out to everyone. Please let me know if you guys have any questions.

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savs2k 1J confirmed


ChuckD MO $150
skate 1J QP $151
cool_as_crap 1J QP $151
lgg1911 1J QP $151
osis32 QP $151
Mark13 QP $151
toaster333 1J MO $150
Squirly MO $150
wallyaf 1J MO $150
Kingnitro1 1J MO $150
shootermedic 1J MO $150
darthsideous 1J MO $150
psssniper 1J MO $150
totenkopf 1J MO $150
VaderSpade 1J MO $150
Slap 1J QP $151
hic28 1J MO $150
brian697 1J MO $150
Phaser 1J QP $151
skkeeter 1J MO $150
Cactus_Tim 1J MO $150
af306 1J MO $150
Spyduh 1J QP $150
coma13 1J QP $151
Selfgovernor 1J MO $150 PM regarding tutorial video
Hardwarejunkie 1J MO $150
spdrcr 1J CK $150
Daves100 1J QP $150
machinegun 1J QP $150
Jackandjill 1J QP $150

MountainShooter 1J
SWLJR 1J
chremicon 1J
Rooftop Voter 1J
iroquois 1J
RSC510 1J
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BeFrank 1J
bdriller 1J
Markw 1J
moparmoneyman 1J
Useless 1J
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Qty one RIA kit + build party.

If you need pictures of a unaltered/unbuilt KTO frame, can do, let me know.
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Very nice! I am in for 1 KTO frame + 1 RIA parts kit. Also very interested in the build party.
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Attachment 199213

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Interested in the build party.

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Alright guys, I have to go to work for a little while but I'll get back at this when I get back.

Mountainshooter, can you send me some pics of your KTO frames, I didn't take any before I built mine.
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I am in for 1 KTO frame + 1 RIA parts kit.

Plus 1 jig should they become available.

Maybe I'll get these B4 my Ares paperweights!!
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Thanks for organizing!
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My wife will kill me, but.... 1 KTO frame + 1 RIA parts kit + Build Party

When is payment due? Didn't see the date above...
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1 jig if they become available.
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I'm interested for this group buy.

Can someone fill me in on this? Buy purchasing the frame and kit, and put it together, will I now have a functional 1911? Since this would be my first potential 1911 build, Im completely lost. Any info would be appreciated. PMs are always welcome as well.
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+1 frame and +1 kit for me, thanks
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1 frame 1 kit and BP for me... thanks
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I'm in for the build party, already have two frames from the last buy.
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1 KTO frame, 1 RIA parts kit and BP , thanks
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As You all know~
I am not going to be the only 1st Time Builder on the .45 Frame
it would be Great to get some Info to Help all Us 1st Timers get our 1 of a Kind 1st Ever Custom Built Frames done with help from others

Go Ahead PM anytime so that we can talk and make plans to meet & get the Frame Built as I have No idea what to do after I get My things in Hand

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Old 01-29-2013, 9:58 PM
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+1 on this. I would be very interested but am clueless as to how to proceed once I get the frame and parts kit.


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As You all know~
I am not going to be the only 1st Time Builder on the .45 Frame
it would be Great to get some Info to Help all Us 1st Timers get our 1 of a Kind 1st Ever Custom Built Frames done with help from others

Go Ahead PM anytime so that we can talk and make plans to meet & get the Frame Built as I have No idea what to do after I get My things in Hand

Kinda Reminds Me of Jr. High School when We all had a Shop Class that Taught Us Important things like this !~!

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Me too....

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Do I have to participate in the group buy to participate in the build party? I have a KTO paperweight that I have yet to get started on.
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Im in for 2- kto & 2- ria and Bp depending on where its held
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+1 on this. I would be very interested but am clueless as to how to proceed once I get the frame and parts kit.
+2 on this
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:32 PM
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Put me down for one of each
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I'm in for at least one frame and probably 3-4 of those parts kits if they are good quality.
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At least 4 KTO frames + build party for them.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:30 PM
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In for...

(1) frame
(1) parts kit

When do you need money in by?
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:33 PM
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I want:
1 KTO frame + 1 RIA parts kit + 1 Build Party

I do have a couple questions:
What is the charge for the Build Party?? When is payment due?
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:36 PM
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In for 1 KTO frame, 1 RIA parts kit and build party.

Please give info on build party when one is set as I am also clueless on how to proceed once I get everything
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:50 PM
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Looking forward to this..
+1 KTO frame and +1 kit for me, Also build party

Thanks
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