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Old 01-19-2013, 7:28 PM
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So, I have not had good luck with holsters. They are ALL too bulky for me.

My pistol has no external safeties, and a 6lb trigger pull. Is it safe to carry without a holster and just tucked in the pants?
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Ask yourself one question

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Are you sure it's not the gun that's bulky?
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So, I have not had good luck with holsters. They are ALL too bulky for me.

My pistol has no external safeties, and a 6lb trigger pull. Is it safe to carry without a holster and just tucked in the pants?
Care to elaborate what kind of gun you are trying to CC?

To concur with Hopalong, I would agree. "Do you feel lucky?"
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I don't carry anyhing that does not have it's trigger covered. It's like a condom, both protect against an unintended discharge and embarassing doctor visits.
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Hopalong is what your name will be if said pistol discharges after "mexican carry" incident.
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I currently carry a Karh CW9 in a iwb holster, and when needed I carry in a Sticky holster.

But like I said, its just too bulky and uncomfortable for someone my size. I was carrying a little 22 before and that worked great. But, I want to have a 9mm instead.
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The vanguard holster thing looks to be my answer. Thanks!
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My pistol has no external safeties, and a 6lb trigger pull. Is it safe to carry without a holster and just tucked in the pants?
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How about a smart carry holster?
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If it's an auto pistol, I would'nt have a round chambered. That would be safe.

If a revolver, I wouldn't without a pocket protector holster. Low risk without one, but why risk anything?
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I currently carry a Karh CW9 in a iwb holster, and when needed I carry in a Sticky holster.

But like I said, its just too bulky and uncomfortable for someone my size. I was carrying a little 22 before and that worked great. But, I want to have a 9mm instead.
what size are you?
im 5'8" 150lbs, and i have no problem carrying a fnp40 or cw9 iwb small of back wearing 31" waist pants.

While carrying, you have to compromise a bit on comfort, its all a matter of getting used to it.
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what size are you?
im 5'8" 150lbs, and i have no problem carrying a fnp40 or cw9 iwb small of back wearing 31" waist pants.

While carrying, you have to compromise a bit on comfort, its all a matter of getting used to it.
Im 5'6 and weigh like 130. Yeah, I am used to pocket carry. That taurus 380 is looking good at this point.

I really like that trigger guard cover though made by raven. If that works good, then Ill be fine with that.

and like someone else said, ill just not have one chambered and practice drawing and getting one chambered.
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:41 PM
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I was always thinking why there is no REAL thin holsters similar to the sticky or remora holster? That would be ideal. Why does it have to be so thick? Ill just have to sew something into the waist of my pants that covers the trigger and holds the pistol secure.

So simple.
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This issue with the thickness is that it prevents the holster from folding in the middle. That 6# trigger pull will be EASILY overcome if the trigger catches on a piece or your clothing when you are sitting down, bending, twisting, pulling up your pants, retucking your shirt, etc... There is a story floating around (unsure of the veracity of the claim) about a LEO who put his service pistol into his waistband and his drawstring from his sweatshirt got into the trigger guard. When he got to work and started to pull off his sweatshirt it snagged on the trigger. He just thought it was stuck on something else in his pants and gave it a good yank and had a ND in the station. It seems like there are plenty of Kydex holsters available. You have a small frame but there are plenty of options. Going commando with your carry piece is just not recommended. You HAVE TO protect the trigger.
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I see. I will figure something out. I am really leaning towards getting one of those raven trigger guard covers. Otherwise, ill just have to live with what I got for now. For my build, most pistols will look peculiar on me, and if I wear a larger size, then I just look odd, which is trivial, but I still want to look well dressed in certain occasions. I think most of you can understand what I mean.
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I can promise you that you can carry any gun and still look dapper with fitted clothes if you have this type of holster on the small of your back.



A side note, always carry one chambered. That's the only proper way of carrying. Practice a good draw technique until you are
110% comfortable handling a "loaded" gun.
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So, I have not had good luck with holsters. They are ALL too bulky for me.

My pistol has no external safeties, and a 6lb trigger pull. Is it safe to carry without a holster and just tucked in the pants?
Been using the carry clip on J frames and 1911's since 1968 and on Glocks since 1992. Your belt acts as the trigger guard.

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So, I have not had good luck with holsters. They are ALL too bulky for me.

My pistol has no external safeties, and a 6lb trigger pull. Is it safe to carry without a holster and just tucked in the pants?
Well I guess it depends..... if you only plan to hold it sideways and shout "suckah" as you do a drive by on a rival gang it may be okay.
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I can promise you that you can carry any gun and still look dapper with fitted clothes if you have this type of holster on the small of your back.



A side note, always carry one chambered. That's the only proper way of carrying. Practice a good draw technique until you are
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Who makes this holster?
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Who makes this holster?
im not sure, i just pulled it off google as an example.

What i was trying to suggest is to use holster similar to the picture where it is made of all leather (very thin, little bulk, comfortable, moves with your body/clothes), straps are on both side (keeps the thickness away from the gun), and dual straps (even weight distribution on belt). In my opinion, this is the best holster design, have one for the fnp40 and cw9

Many companies offer such design:
http://www.fist-inc.com/holsters/holster/11.htm
http://www.brigadegunleather.com/m-11.html
http://www.sideguardholsters.com/holsters/DblSnap.htm
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I'm 5' 9", 175# and have no problem concealing my Sig 239 or Sig 220 in a Crossbreed holster. There are several manufacturers that make thin, light weight tuck style holsters. I would not carry with out a holster
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I use a White Hat MaxTuck IWB for my carry(s)... a Ruger P94 and a Glock G30.

http://www.whitehatholsters.com

What I have found is I needed to find the right location around the belt (~3:30) but I also needed to adjust the cant of the gun. (cant = tilt)

The nice thing about the MaxTuck above is they have multiple holes for the belt clips which help with cant as well as depth of gun in pants.

I found it to be comfortable even while sitting in the dentist chair

I wouldn't carry without a holster nor would I do small of the back. Small of the back is a two fold issue for me: it is a strong drawing position that is easier to defeat than a side draw; it is in a bad spot for when you are thrown on your back
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Plaxico Burress, is that you?

Like everyone else has said, where there's a will, there's a way. My G30 can barely be seen with my OWB Fobus paddle. I still have to get a few more holsters to find which one i truly like though.

SOB carry will be a little easier to conceal, however, there are a lot of people that will say don't do it because you can fall on it and hurt yourself. Personally, i prefer to carry at about the 4:00-5:00 location. Even my outside carry is usually at about 4:00. Head into your LGS and try a few different holsters or buy a few, cheap, Galco holsters and go from there.
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the raven vanguard II, that is the ticket. Im going to pre-order.
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the raven vanguard II, that is the ticket. Im going to pre-order.
Nevermind, its only available for glocks at the first release. Ill try the original one.
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Raven Vanguard is the ticket. I've been using one on my J-Frame for a couple of years now. Just ordered one of the Gen 2 Vanguards for Glock. Hope it's as good as the original.
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I have the crossbreed, N82Tactical Pro and remora holsters. With your CW9, I recommend carrying between 4-5 O'clock position for best comfort.
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I don't carry anyhing that does not have it's trigger covered. It's like a condom, both protect against an unintended discharge and embarassing doctor visits.
this is great!

I dont believe it wise to gangster carry....safety or credibility as a CCWer
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So I did get my raven vanguard in and I got to say it is the best thing for those who do not like a holster. It is really snug/fits great and it is about time a simple, non bulky, effectively safe way to carry is around. For those of you that dont want to look like you have an odd love handle, this is your answer. Thanks to those who helped me find this solution.
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I use an Ace Case clipless holster for my CW9. Maximum concealibility and never moves.
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I use an Ace Case clipless holster for my CW9. Maximum concealibility and never moves.
Thats cool, if its anything like my Sticky holster then I understand what you are talking about. Those are alright for sure, and I really like mine. They have there use. But for most times its gotta be the vanguard always from now on, lol.
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So, I have not had good luck with holsters. They are ALL too bulky for me.

My pistol has no external safeties, and a 6lb trigger pull. Is it safe to carry without a holster and just tucked in the pants?
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