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Old 12-30-2012, 5:15 PM
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yup.

Don't forget the knowledge to make a bow drill or bamboo firestarter.

Me...I'll stick to Ohio Blue Tip matches...I have a case of them.

You ever seen what happens when you drop a case of those?

A huge cloud of smoke and shocked looking faces of employees and customers in line of a busy grocery store.
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Old 12-30-2012, 6:20 PM
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I've mucked about with bow-drill method, gotten coals several times, could never get the coals to light even a cotton ball. Still working on that. Need to develop a better bearing block; something portable, like a knife handle or scabbard inset.

I like that the firesteels will work even when wet. My primary firesteel also has a magnesium bar and a little pill-ziploc with magnesium shavings pre-cut. That particular kit is NOT on the cheap side, however ($25+).
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Old 12-31-2012, 3:28 PM
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Ive used my jumper cables + my cars battery to light a cigarette before lol
I've lit cigs with oxy-acetolyne torches and arc welders.

some fun...woot!
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Old 12-31-2012, 3:33 PM
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I've mucked about with bow-drill method, gotten coals several times, could never get the coals to light even a cotton ball. Still working on that. Need to develop a better bearing block; something portable, like a knife handle or scabbard inset.

I like that the firesteels will work even when wet. My primary firesteel also has a magnesium bar and a little pill-ziploc with magnesium shavings pre-cut. That particular kit is NOT on the cheap side, however ($25+).
Well dried Redwood works really well for the board and shaft. I collect pine needles off the road to use as a birds nest. The cars break up the fibers and they work pretty well.

For the top of the drill, I have one of two choices. A small block of wood with a divet carved in..or...my Openel knife has a small hole drilled in the side to use as the block.
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Man guys, how can anyone here say you are prepared if you aren't EDC'ing a way to make fire? I usually am carrying my CGF Contributor Zippo, but I at least have a bic.
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Old 12-31-2012, 4:23 PM
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How about this:

Fire steel.
Tinder bundle/dryer lint.
Or a medicine bottle with a couple of petroleum jelly soaked cotton balls.
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Man guys, how can anyone here say you are prepared if you aren't EDC'ing a way to make fire? I usually am carrying my CGF Contributor Zippo, but I at least have a bic.
um...I always carry this:

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I also have magnesium fire starters, a magnifying glass, and blue tip matches.

I also know how to make and use a bow drill and bamboo fire starter.

For normal everyday use I also carry an American Flag Zippo.

Am I unprepared?
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nothing beats a flint n steel considering the world is covered with flint quartz or churt stones and you can practicly make char cloth from anyhting
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:25 AM
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During college in Colorado, the locals trick to light a fire in the wind was using cheetos as kindling. They're pure oil and burn like a duraflame log.

Bic lighters. No brainer. They work even if soaking wet. Cotton balls in vaseline stored in old pill bottles or film canisters work great too. Magnesium and ferro rods work, but why bother? Hassle. I have them, but never use them.
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I like the magnesium stick they are fun to use but I have bic lighters in all my vehicals and camping hiking gear too. I want a fire fast
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Pine and fir pitch (sap) works well with dry broken down pine needles or dry ground up leaves. According to a buddy of mine it is also good for putting on wounds - he says it helps clot the blood faster, and supposedly has a natural anti fungal agent in it that can help fight infection.

Don't think I'd try it on a femoral artery bleed, though.

I always carry a couple of Bic lighters in a zip lock bag in my truck and some more with my camping gear. I also carry road flares - not only for an accident scene, but also for lighting fires if need be.

Flares can also be used at night for signaling for help, along with those little magnesium strobe discs you can buy at fire works stands. Those can be seen a long way off.
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If I need to signal someone at a distance at night, I am not lighting magnesium. My 500 lumen rechargeable pocket flashlight will do...

http://www.hexbright.com/

The blinking mode @ 500 lumens will damn sure get someone's attention.
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Just make sure the lint you collect from the dryer is from cotton and not the polyester/nylon clothing.
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If I need to signal someone at a distance at night, I am not lighting magnesium. My 500 lumen rechargeable pocket flashlight will do...

http://www.hexbright.com/

The blinking mode @ 500 lumens will damn sure get someone's attention.
That looks like a good flashlight. I gotta get one.
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That flashlight charges off a usb connection?
$99 is pretty pricey imho. I'll stick with my $10 ultrafire 502b... I picked up 4 of them a couple months back and while i doubt the 900 lumens they claim, it throws a crazy amount of light. Only drawback is if you don't already have 18650 batteries and a charger.
Btw, loving this thread!! Keep it going.
Back on subject, i keep a fresnel lense in my wallet and a harbor freight magnesium fire starter in the car. For anyone that owns these but hasn't used it yet, test it out. There is a short learning curve and you don't want your first time to be during an emergency.
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That flashlight charges off a usb connection?
$99 is pretty pricey imho. I'll stick with my $10 ultrafire 502b... I picked up 4 of them a couple months back and while i doubt the 900 lumens they claim, it throws a crazy amount of light. Only drawback is if you don't already have 18650 batteries and a charger.
Btw, loving this thread!! Keep it going.
Back on subject, i keep a fresnel lense in my wallet and a harbor freight magnesium fire starter in the car. For anyone that owns these but hasn't used it yet, test it out. There is a short learning curve and you don't want your first time to be during an emergency.
It is pretty pricey. I got in when the kickstarter was $60. That said, it's not just the USB charger. It's programmable, open-source, water-tight, and built like a tank. I believe it also has a motion sensor in it, for those who are going to do serious programming.

It is NOT EMP-proof, however, for those who are concerned about such things. I am not. Where I live, if there's an emp, I'm going to be a glowing wisp of sub-atomic particles or somesuch. Bracketed by military bases on every side. For an EDC flashlight, though, it is awesome (if a bit on the large side...but my EDC bag is a Maxpedition Falcon II, so I have plenty of room).
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I have flint/steel, lighters, striker and propane blow torch. Which btw, I love using my torch to light my charcoal bbq :P

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Lint is great kindling and sparks up very easily.
I keep some in my camping gear box that's with me every time I go camping.
We stuff all dryer lint in my home into an empty plastic water bottle that once full, slides into the BOB... This amounts to tons of lightweight fire starter!
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Cotton makeup pads work well as kindling TINDER as well. You can even throw some vaseline on them so they burn longer. Hand gel with alcohol in it is fantastic to start a fire as well.
Tinder is the very fine very dry flammable material used to take a spark from a flint and develop it from an ember to a flame.

Kindling is the small twigs and branches into which you put your burning tinder bundle to get the fire going. Once you have a fire of kindling going, you add larger sticks, and then finally logs.

You will find it almost impossible to light a fire starting with just kindling.

Most people who have a fireplace use kindling piled on top of newspaper (tinder) to get the fire going.
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Magnesium starters are what I keep stashed around. It burns so much hotter than a standard flame and will even start wet tinder.
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steel wool & a 9 volt battery.
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Melt down old candles and dump on pine cones for fire starters..
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