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CALGUNS-SSA FIRE DRILL: Call and Email Glendale City Council Members BETWEEN 12 and 3
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FIRE DRILL: Call and Email Glendale City Council Members BETWEEN 12 and 3 - TODAY!!! MAKE YOURSELVES KNOWN Information: In wake of Newtown shooting, Glendale City Council may hear proposal to ban gun shows proposed by Rafi Manoukian Glendale City Council. “It’s always been on my mind,” Council person Manoukian said after a meeting at City Hall Tuesday. “At this point we have to take a step.” With Mayor Frank Quintero in his corner, he has the backing to put the issue on the City Council agenda Contact Information City Council 613 E. Broadway, Room 200 Glendale, CA 91206 818.548.4844 818.547.6740 Use the “Contact Your City Council Via Email” use this link Then use the NRA Members Council “One Click” use this link REASONS WHY BANNING THE GLENDALE GUN SHOW IS A BAD IDEA 1. The Glendale Gun Show is already heavily regulated. All federal, state, and local laws must be adhered to at the gun show, which means firearms are not generally transferred on the property the day of the show. People select a firearm, fill out the paperwork, and then go pick the firearm up at ANOTHER location from a licensed dealer 10 days later, after they have passed a background check. 2. The Gun Show brings in significant revenue to the City, over $54,000 directly (and who knows how much indirectly from restaurants, gas stations, etc.) in 2012. 3. An ordinance banning the gun show is a solution in search of a problem, based on emotion. There appear to be zero instances of crimes or accidents with firearms at or around the gun show in its decade’s long history. 4. Alameda County banned gun shows on its property and was sued for violation of the First and Second Amendments to the U.S. Constitution, as well as the Equal Protection Clause. Thirteen years and hundreds of thousands of dollars later the case remains unresolved, with the County ultimately interpreting its ordinance to allow gun shows on its property and plaintiffs asking the U.S. Supreme Court to confirm they are entitled to attorneys’ fees in excess of $1 million. See Nordyke v. Alameda County. The City will almost certainly be sued in a similar case. 5. What exactly will banning the gun show achieve for Glendale other than deprive the City of the significant revenue it takes in from the show and invite a costly lawsuit like Nordyke, which could result in the City paying the plaintiffs’ attorneys’ fees on top of its losses? 6. Banning the gun show was proposed in 2006 and was rejected. It was a bad idea then and it is a bad idea now. 7. It is offensive that some members of the City Council would admittedly exploit the tragic murder of innocents in Connecticut as a pretext to resurrect a political plan they have obviously wanted to employ for several years. 8. Any emotionally-based action, by an elected or appointed public official, is a bad idea if it does not also have a basis in fiscal and social responsibility. The loss of the steady stream of revenue, resulting from the gun show, is bad enough. But eliminating a highly regulated venue that requires that only lawful firearms transactions can occur is socially negligent. 9. The promoter of the Glendale Gun Show has a contract with the city and has had one for quite some time, and the city of Glendale would be in breach by taking any action that would prohibit the promoter from hosting his show. Related Post: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=670970 http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=610510 http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=660036 agenda http://www.glendalenewspress.com/new...,5920662.story http://www.glendalenewspress.com/opi...,6825364.story
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Pennys Dad Ps 25:4-5 NLT Show me the right path, O Lord; point out the road for me to follow. Lead me by your truth and teach me, for you are the God who saves me. All day long I put my hope in you. Last edited by pennys dad; 01-11-2013 at 7:17 AM.. |
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Pennys Dad Ps 25:4-5 NLT Show me the right path, O Lord; point out the road for me to follow. Lead me by your truth and teach me, for you are the God who saves me. All day long I put my hope in you. |
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Pennys Dad Ps 25:4-5 NLT Show me the right path, O Lord; point out the road for me to follow. Lead me by your truth and teach me, for you are the God who saves me. All day long I put my hope in you. |
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The birds have been sent.
See you on Tuesday @ 6PM. .
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The deterioration of every government begins with the decay of the principles on which it was founded. Charles-Louis de Secondat (1689-1755) Baron de Montesquieu In America, freedom and justice have always come from the ballot box, the jury box, and when that fails, the cartridge box. Steve Symms, ex-U.S. Senator, Idaho |
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I used: Good Afternoon I am concerned that my cities council is so willing to close an event that brings in revenue for the city and local businesses as well as jobs. The event coordinator follows all laws for the show and manages a safe environment. You are not acting in the best interest for the community by tossing aside for emotional satisfaction jobs and revenue created by a safe well managed event. Best Regards
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Just called.
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NO ISSUE / MAY ISSUE / SHALL ISSUE - LTC progress over time since 1986 Last edited by NoJoke; 01-11-2013 at 1:32 PM.. |
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1.5 hours left for the e-mail flash mob.
You out of area guys can relate how you drop off the wife at the Americana shopping center (and she spends $$) while you go to the GGS (and spend $$) and then afterwards you have lunch together at one of the local dining establishments (and spend $$) like several of my buddies. .
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The deterioration of every government begins with the decay of the principles on which it was founded. Charles-Louis de Secondat (1689-1755) Baron de Montesquieu In America, freedom and justice have always come from the ballot box, the jury box, and when that fails, the cartridge box. Steve Symms, ex-U.S. Senator, Idaho |
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:-) beat me to the 150pm drive :-)
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Pennys Dad Ps 25:4-5 NLT Show me the right path, O Lord; point out the road for me to follow. Lead me by your truth and teach me, for you are the God who saves me. All day long I put my hope in you. |
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Can't call at the moment, but just sent an email to the council and to Councilman Manoukian. I expressed to them that although I am not a resident of Glendale, the shows bring me to Glendale with regularity where I shop, dine, etc. I also strongly stated that a ban would be a bad idea for Glendale as the wrong way to express their concerns about gun violence. I finished up by suggesting that they attend the next show, to remove their preconceptions.
Hope it helps! I would hate to see the Glendale show go... |
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