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View Poll Results: Have you seen a condor
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:11 PM
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Default Who has actually seen a wild condor??? Please respond to poll even if you havent.

I was thinking because i have spent a good amount of time in the lead free zones both in Cali and Az and despite going through all the lead free trouble i have never even seen one of the stinking things. I asked one of my rancher friends who has lived his whole life in their "range" and he is an older guy and he thinks he has maybe only seen 1 once. He is a hunting guide and farmer so he is constantly looking for animals.

Who here has or hasnt seen one in the wild?
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I saw 3 along the coast south of Monterey a couple years ago.
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They seem fairly scarce east of the Mississippi...
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I saw some on TV. They feed the condors by leaving dead animals for them since the birds can't feed themselves. That's one creature that should be allowed to go extinct.
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Saw one behind Goleta Peak a few years ago, no mistaking a wingspan that big.
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Old 01-11-2013, 5:06 AM
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I've seen numerous condors. They are a regular where I hunt. They look like big oversized retarted turkeys. There is a "condor patrol" that follows the birds regularly. Bunch of white vehicles with antennas that track the birds and watch them whenever they land. The birds themselves are very tame. They are used to small crowds of people watching them at close distances with cameras clicking away. I've seen condors eat garbage that would kill a turkey vulture. They don't get out of the road like turkey vultures will when cars come by.

I enjoy denying the "condor patrol" access to my ranch when they ask if they can come in to find birds they have tracked onto my ranch.
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I've seen a few on Tejon eating dead cows and pig gut piles before all the ban and other BS we now have to deal with. I will say one thing now that you can't leave a gut pile on certain parts of Tejon their is a lot less sightings so I guess the TMV will not be impacted by the enviro's if it ever gets off the ground.
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I've seen them while motorcycle riding in Pozo (near Santa Margarita / San Luis Obispo). Big, retarded turkeys is a good way of describing them.
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I spend alot of time in outdoors even attended a condor watch and never saw one.

Most people (99%) will see a turkey vulture alone and up high enough and soaring and mistakenly call it a condor. The wingspan of a condor is huge and condors are soaring at extremely high altitudes and most people will never even be in a place where a sighting will be likely.

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Last one I saw was about two months ago near the sespe wilderness. You can't really mistake them for anything else if they are flying. They are huge and they have the distinct white markings on the front half of their wings.

I still don't fully follow the logic of the lead bullet poisoning claims. I've read that a single bullet is enough to poison them enough to harm them to cause eventual death. OK so one of these big birds eats a lead bullet... why doesn't the bulk of it just pass though their system having minimal effects? Do they keep it in a gullet and it just gets ground up over time?
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I've hunted deers and pigs and misc. upland game over the years and have never seen.
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I go camping every summer in Big Sur. Seen one each of the last 2 summers. They're amazing to see flying around. Thought it was a plane flying low when one buzzed me on Highway 1 last summer.
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I just hope they go extinct soon. Tired of seeing tax money wasted on something like that.
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I've seen a crapload of them in the mountains above Tehachapi. They're as bad as bears and raccoons. They completely destroyed this poor guys camp. Tore open his tents- shredded them actually, there was food and materials scattered all over the place. Strange thing is, these condors had badges with numbers on their sides- when I first saw them, I thought they were turkey decoys or targets.
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They are not "Wild". They are pets of the state and enviro's. They are fed regularly and would be extinct otherwise. The enviro's keep them on life support to use them for leverage for their agendas
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They are curious birds that often swoop down for a closer look. I have seen them up close many times. They have numbered tags on their wings.
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They are not "Wild". They are pets of the state and enviro's. They are fed regularly and would be extinct otherwise. The enviro's keep them on life support to use them for leverage for their agendas
Agreed. And that won't change.
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Yup just visit the Pinnacles NP if you want to see them.

http://www.nps.gov/pinn/index.htm
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ive seen a group eating roadkill on the road north of san diego
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nope.

All I ever see are turkey vultures and the occasional hawk.
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Saw them back in 1975 in the wilds. There were about 6 or 8 I think.
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I've seen Turkey Vultures before, sometimes in groups up to 3. I was racing a friend behind Mather AFB once and what I would describe as a huge turkey with down syndrome popped up and my buddy, doing close to 150 mph almost hit it with his head.
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I've seen them while climbing at Pinnacles. They are pretty awesome to see flying, but I like watching birds fly.

As for the lead ban, I've read 3 papers about the lead ban and the how it affects the condors. Two of those papers showed (within a reasonable doubt in my opinion) that hunting season coincided with condors ingesting lead and dying.

While I fully believe that when I shoot an animal, my bullet goes in one side and out the other (mostly because of the animals I've shot, that's what happened), I won't deny (without proof) what I've read from other scientific journals. So, at this point I'm happy to use non-lead ammo in the condor territory.
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I've never seen a live one, but the Carrizo Plains Visitor's Center has a mounted one on display.

The curator told me that it was found dead, and collected. It took something like 15 years to get the DFG to issue a permit to keep it, mount it, and set it up for display. In the meantime, it was kept in cold storage until disposition was decided.
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Yes dec 15. I got my first bear and the warden said look up. And a condor was circling. That was the first time i seen one. I am sure after i left the condor moved in.
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Saw one back in the summer of 1990 just west of Chews Ridge in LPNF. At first I thought it was a glider that was looking for thermals. Then it flapped its wings, and I said to myself that's one big a** bird I hope he doesn't need to lighten his load in my direction.

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Cali Condor.

Seen one twice, positive ID.

@ Pinnacles

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@ Mogan Territory EBRPD

I had a glance at what I thought was going to be hawk or turkey vulture in thermal glide...but damn that is a massive bird. It is stunningly large, with haunting white markings, as if an under-wing were present.

I'm fine with using non-lead in their ranges (which are huge-can be over 1 hundred miles). They are most easily seen at Pinnacles because of the nesting habitat, but they go far and wide from there. As I understand, the legal approach is that they ban lead en toto with out ammo specific qualifications. I think one could argue for ammo specific exceptions on the basis of ballistics (say all .30 caliber and the like could be used with lead as it is likely to go through), but since it is easier for those writing or enforcing the law to just ban lead while hunting in these areas entirely, they won't care to listen. Non-lead is available, though expensive--but not excessive so for hunting use.

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They are not "Wild". They are pets of the state and enviro's. They are fed regularly and would be extinct otherwise. The enviro's keep them on life support to use them for leverage for their agendas
Couldn't have said it better myself.

Got myself in a bit of a heated discussion recently stating this very fact.
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I will take a bald eagle grabbing a fish from a lake and putting the wings in 4wd to get some altitude any day.

But I have seen some, not as many as I think I have, at the Pinnacles over the last 40 years. They are big, I could live without them.

Kind of like some posters in this thread.
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My dad saw one eating a squirrel that was shot with a lead bullet once. I have seen at least two.
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I saw some on TV. They feed the condors by leaving dead animals for them since the birds can't feed themselves. That's one creature that should be allowed to go extinct.
Sounds like liberals creating a new entitled class.
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I've never seen a live one, but the Carrizo Plains Visitor's Center has a mounted one on display.

The curator told me that it was found dead, and collected. It took something like 15 years to get the DFG to issue a permit to keep it, mount it, and set it up for display. In the meantime, it was kept in cold storage until disposition was decided.
Think of all those government employees who were able to justify their jobs, during that 15 year span.
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I voted no, but then I remebered I saw a bunch by the Colorado River right on the CA/AZ border. On the California Side right across from Parker, AZ.

Theres a lot of these things called Burros (like mules) that wander all around. I'm sure they always get hit by cars and the Condors feast. Plus, a lot of stuff must die in the arid 115 degree desert in the summer.
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I hunt the the "condor zone" two or three times a year and have never seen one. Turkey vultures, yes. Condors, not a one.
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