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Old 01-10-2013, 6:40 PM
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Old 01-10-2013, 6:42 PM
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"Specialists" are talking/grandstanding/wasting time.
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Old 01-10-2013, 7:08 PM
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Over reaction to non-crimes by State loyalists. If they keep up their heavy handed crap, soon it'll be a better gamble to shoot at cops before they even start bothering you considering the amount of time they're willing to put you in prison for if you cooperate.

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Old 01-10-2013, 7:29 PM
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the number of drivers killed/injured by unlicensed and unregistered vehicles and drivers would be a interesting statistic to pair with thier numbers ......... id love to say jee rep thompson we should do a federal background check system for all vehicle sales before you can buy a car you must go to a dealer be checked out and go through a 10 day waiting period. also no vehicles with tanks in excess of 10 gallons

his logic kills me
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Old 01-10-2013, 7:44 PM
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Cars arent a right. I wouldnt even go there without first touching on civil rights.
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Old 01-10-2013, 8:36 PM
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Well, how'd it go for you Santa Rosans (and Penngrovians)? Ooooh, weren't the "specialists" serious and oh so authoritarian?
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Old 01-10-2013, 8:59 PM
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I spoke, I was the person whose its birthday it was. PE.

I made sure Thompson knew the Second Amendment was for protection against government. The adrenaline is pumping still, 30 minutes out. The meeting is still going on probably, they let everybody have 90 seconds. I got my points across, basically followed JimWest's suggestions. Then I got IN-n-OUT.
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Old 01-10-2013, 9:00 PM
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Well, how'd it go for you Santa Rosans (and Penngrovians)? Ooooh, weren't the "specialists" serious and oh so authoritarian?
They didn't have many stats or anything. They did waste about 25 minutes, packed house, not even standing room, not enough space.
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Cars arent a right. I wouldnt even go there without first touching on civil rights.
think you missed where i was going with that
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:02 PM
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Pigman and I went. I saw Porter. I don't know it was you BoMar, sorry we didn't meet.

It was by far a pro gun group. One guywent ahead and blamed the media for sensationalizing the drug using gunmen. Lots of blame put on the mentally unstable and drug using hoopleheads.

Thompson heard lots of good arguments against more restrictive laws on law biding citizens. One guy even identified what an assault weapon is and noted such weapons have been banned since the 30's and remain only for LEO's and the military, and that all what remains for the average citizen were simple semi auto's. one speake brought up guns at schools, the woman next to me said under her breath asking if we really needed guns set school. The speaker continued the success of having armed security or police on campus. I looked @ her and chuckled with a blink. That really ruffled her feathers.

One could easily spot the peace loving Birkenstock wearing human rights activists who attended to spout their nonsense. After an hour of pro 2a cheers the hippies slowly got up and silently walked out frustrated and annoyed.

In short, it was a success. The pro 2a folks were very polite to let everyone speak, and when a speaker made sense with facts and information was followed with cheers and boisterous applause from the crowd


I think we are making progress and are building a growing number of people who are seeing the light and are seeing guns, high cap mags and these scary assault weapons are not to blame......but rather the mentally insane who gain fame from the media who need help. This malarkey about guns needed only for hunting is slowly fading to the wayside. The right to protect ones self, family, property is coming out.
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:52 PM
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Awesome report, Gilla. And spot on. I'm following up with a letter to Thompson tomorrow encouraging him to get on the right side of the argument.
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:23 PM
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Glad to hear that the Santa Rosa meeting turned out successful!
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:-) Music to my ears Gillafunk. Well done.
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One could easily spot the peace loving Birkenstock wearing human rights activists ....
Hey now....I am a peace lovin', Birkenstock wearing 'human rights activist'...advocating my natural human right to self preservation through carrying a firearm
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Old 01-11-2013, 9:18 AM
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Does anyone really think that Thompson will pay more attention to what his constituents say that what Pelosi says? He has to get into line or lose his re-election funding. They could care less about what we think. It is about them and the power they can get by taking away our rights.
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Old 01-11-2013, 9:56 AM
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I ended up going with Catherine, my Dad and his friend showed up too. I felt it went well.

Anyone know if we will be able to watch this somewhere? I was hardly able to hear. My dad said it would be on TV, but was not sure where.

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Old 01-11-2013, 1:45 PM
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I couldn't get in. Saw a lot of my customers on KTVU and from what everyone told me today, it was a landslide in favor of US. Let's see how they re-arrange what really happened.
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I couldn't get in. Saw a lot of my customers on KTVU and from what everyone told me today, it was a landslide in favor of US. Let's see how they re-arrange what really happened.
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Ugh. "the founding fathers meant for the Constitution to be a living, breathing document, changing as society evolves." Well, that 's why it has the amendment process!

The next fool was blathering about registration and having the police inspect to make sure your guns are locked up, with ammo locked up separately. High taxes on ammo, as well.
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:28 AM
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Woman now speaking about the shooting at 101 California in San Francisco, and her sister killing herself with a legally purchased gun.

I was working in SF at the time of the 101 California shooting, and I had to walk that way to get to the BART station to go home. The news we had at the time was very unclear about what was happening, and made it sound like some guy was on the roof and maybe shooting passersby. I also knew someone who committed suicide with a gun. And guess what. My first thoughts were not that guns should be banned and confiscated. It has never occured to me that banning guns, or stricter gun control laws are the answer, because it's not.

People do bad things. If they can't get guns, they'll figure out another way to do bad things. Why is that so hard to understand?
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That clown was giving the Japanese example. supposedly..
Yes, that's what he said. I was just typing too fast, I guess.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:36 AM
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Dang it, I missed seeing myself on TV by like 10 minutes. Are they going to replay this?
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I was at the one in Vallejo.
I also spoke my two minutes worth with much applause.
Cameraman from the Cronical said he photographed me and wanted the correct spelling of my name which I gave to him. Also showed him my Florida CCW and told him I will be trying to acquire my California one soon. God Bless America

Anyone know ifthe Vallejo meeting was aired??

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Just finished listening to the whole program. While the anti-gun folks were mostly clueless, there were a few too many pro-gun, conspiracy-theory wingnuts for my taste. Are we really that f*cking dumb?
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...there were a few too many pro-gun, conspiracy-theory wingnuts for my taste. Are we really that f*cking dumb?
I think we just get caught up in answering their "why do you *need* an 'assault rifle'?.." We need to turn it around on them. Why do we issue them to police?
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I know public meetings are an invitation for the loonies to come out of the woodwork on any issue under the sun. I didn't see any video from the other two meetings - were there more well spoken pro gun-rights folks at those?
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Just finished listening to the whole program. While the anti-gun folks were mostly clueless, there were a few too many pro-gun, conspiracy-theory wingnuts for my taste. Are we really that f*cking dumb?
After watching the whole thing too, I agree with ya Swiss. To many spacemen.
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I haven't watched the video yet - but giant thanks to everyone who was abloe to make it out to these two events.

In all honesty, public meetings are scary. Standing up and speaking is scarier. Standing up and giving your elected representative the "what for" because their being friggin morons really gets the adrenaline pumping. I usually walk away shaking....

Despite the occasional conspiracy wingnuts, he fact that gunnies show up makes an impression. Someone willing to attend a public meeting is going to vote. And they're gonna try to influence all their friends, too. In close elections, some politicians might rather punt than tackle thorny issues like gun control.

Again, thanks to everyone who went. I'm sorry that I couldn't be there.

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I watched most of it last night and I was impressed by the turn out of California gun owners. There were a few people that were 'out there' but overall I thought California gun owners did a very good job of presenting their side. I really expected to see it packed with anti gun types but I was pleasantly surprised.

I am used to the 'staged' congressional hearings CSPAN shows in the US Congress were each side brings in its people giving an illusion that opinions are 50/50 or hearings where only one party brings in their people, trying to make it look like there is support for a proposed change in legislation.

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After watching the whole thing too, I agree with ya Swiss. To many spacemen.
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I spoke in Santa Rosa, along with a LEO buddy. Not sure how much of the overall message got across to Mr. Thompson, but he seemed to actually change his demeanor and paid attention when I spoke.
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