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Old 01-06-2013, 9:45 PM
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Default Bought 2 Polymer 80% AR-15 lower receivers today!

Bought two polymer "paperweights" today at gun show in Ontario... that's right POLYMER not aluminum. Came with few bucks to spend everything I was looking for was sold out decided I fork over $150 for two pieces of plastic Last summer I successfully turned 80% aluminum lower receiver into a 100% using my drill press and cant wait to start on this polymer one. Posted this to see if anyone here has ever had any experience with building, drilling or milling a polymer 80% lower receiver for AR-15? I did a Google search on the internet and couldn't find much info. Of course due to the high demand of paperweights the companys website down due to heavy traffic. I'm thinking once I finish this 80 percent lower I'm probably going to make it into dedicated .22, it being "plastic" aka "polymer" and all. Anyhow glad I bought two just in case I screw up on the first one. But come to think of it any screw ups could probably be fix with a little epoxy.

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only tip i can give you is when milling it out take time and be careful as plastic melts where the aluminum cuts away into shavings. plastic doesnt do that so dont let it get to hot when doing this.i hope it makes sense on what im trying to tell you.
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Who made it and who was selling it! Plastic 80s would be great, even now the production should be fast and the normal cost should be around $20. Are there markings on it?
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Make sure they have some metal in them....I don't know what falls under the undetectable firearms laws, but you'd best know.
IMHO, plastic lowers are going to be in the same history chapter as aluminum wiring.
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80% Poly lowers.... Hhhmmm, sounds interesting. Please post pics/new thread to keep us in the loop.
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I'm working all day till around midnight and honestly I cant stop thinking about getting started I'll take pictures and post them as soon as I can. As for who makes these polymer lowers I have no clue, I think theyre made by guy/company I bought them from but there was no info on the 80% lower its self. I picked up the business card at the booth but didn't bring it to work with me so I don't have the contact info. Once I get home I'll provide as much info as I can.

I'd love to hear about past experiences with polymer 80% lowers so I don't end screwing something up. I searched the internet like crazy last night and couldn't find anything. Perhaps its something new?
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Make sure they have some metal in them....I don't know what falls under the undetectable firearms laws, but you'd best know.
IMHO, plastic lowers are going to be in the same history chapter as aluminum wiring.
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I'm always extremely leery of anything bought "at a gun show"... home of the chinese knock-off 80%s and other such not-sellable on the open internet things.
I'd really like to see pictures of these polymer's, and find out where they came from.

Cutting them shouldn't be any more difficult than an aluminum 80%... the question is whether they'll last for more the 10 shots.
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I would be VERY weary of polymer lowers and it does smell of someone taking advantage of the situation. I am not saying it will not work but you are the first I have heard of poly 80%. Please let us know on your progress and thank you for taking the first steps and sharing with us.
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I have a Plum Crazy lower but never seen or heard of anyone doing a polymer 80% lower. Thats interesting.

My Plum crazy (a gift from an Ex) has held up just fine but hasn't seen a hard life.

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I'm working all day till around midnight and honestly I cant stop thinking about getting started I'll take pictures and post them as soon as I can. As for who makes these polymer lowers I have no clue, I think theyre made by guy/company I bought them from but there was no info on the 80% lower its self. I picked up the business card at the booth but didn't bring it to work with me so I don't have the contact info. Once I get home I'll provide as much info as I can.

I'd love to hear about past experiences with polymer 80% lowers so I don't end screwing something up. I searched the internet like crazy last night and couldn't find anything. Perhaps its something new?
nobody has any past experience, thats why you cant find anything, and thats why we 'really' want to know where you got them
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Make sure they have some metal in them....I don't know what falls under the undetectable firearms laws, but you'd best know.
IMHO, plastic lowers are going to be in the same history chapter as aluminum wiring.
Does the lower parts kit and that magazine full with ammo count? Those New Frontier and,plum crazy AR lowers are out there and I haven't heard of any horror stories about those yet.
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the issues with polymer that i have heard of
come from people cranking down on the buffer tube/ castle nut
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^^^ This!

He thinks he's joining a well versed trend.
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Is receiver made from a 3d printer or injection molded?
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Does the lower parts kit and that magazine full with ammo count? Those New Frontier and,plum crazy AR lowers are out there and I haven't heard of any horror stories about those yet.
I don't know. Even if everything else was plastic, you'd still have enough metal in the barrel alone to not be considered undetectable. But if the regs, however they are written, will apply to a frame or receiver by itself, that might be an issue ???
I don't know how the law or the regs are written, so I don't know. I don't know about those lowers specifically, but other polymer lowers I've seen have metal plates in them where the serial number is.
....just pointing out that it is something that should be looked into....
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I saw some of these at a gun show in South Dakota a month ago.
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I don't know. Even if everything else was plastic, you'd still have enough metal in the barrel alone to not be considered undetectable. But if the regs, however they are written, will apply to a frame or receiver by itself, that might be an issue ???
I don't know how the law or the regs are written, so I don't know. I don't know about those lowers specifically, but other polymer lowers I've seen have metal plates in them where the serial number is.
....just pointing out that it is something that should be looked into....


lol...soo you don't know?

This thread is about 80% not complete lowers.

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Just so you know, those plastics are NOT undetectable. They show up easily on the current scanners, although the current law stated:


"Undetectable Firearms Act of 1988 - Amends the Federal criminal code to make it unlawful to manufacture, import, sell, ship, deliver, possess, transfer, or receive any firearm: (1) which is not as detectable as the Security Exemplar (after the removal of grips, stocks, and magazines) by walk-through metal detectors calibrated and operated to detect the Exemplar; or (2) of which any major component, when subjected to inspection by x-ray machines commonly used at airports, does not generate an image that accurately depicts the shape of the component.

Defines the term "Security Exemplar" to mean an object that is suitable for testing and calibrating metal detectors and is, during the 12-month period beginning on the date of enactment of this Act, constructed of 3.7 ounces of stainless steel in a shape resembling a handgun. Directs the Secretary of the Treasury, at the close of such 12-month period and at appropriate times thereafter, to promulgate regulations to permit the manufacture, importation, sale, shipment, delivery, possession, transfer, or receipt of firearms that are as detectable as a security exemplar which contains 3.7 ounces of stainless steel or such lesser amount as is detectable in view of advances in state-of-the-art developments in weapons detection technology."


So its a complete gun, of which 3.7 oz of metal which can be sensed by a metal detector needs to be there. Not a stripped receiver. If you made one, with the plastic LPK, carbon stock, plastic upper, carbon tensioned barrel, you still have to deal with a bolt carrier. If someone makes a .22 bolt carrier out of plastic, then you may be under that 3.7 oz
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lol...soo you don't know?

This thread is about 80% not complete lowers.
Where can I find 99% incomplete threads and who makes them? Are they legal?
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lol...soo you don't know?

This thread is about 80% not complete lowers.
Reading comprehension time. I said in my first post that I didn't know, but that the op had best know.
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Sold one of the two I bought to a friend. Been busy working so I haven't had time to start on mine or take pics so I asked my bud to txt me some pics of his and here they are.











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Looks airsoft-y.
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Ummm. Wow that looks odd, looks like the FCG pocket is filled in with different material. Who's the manufacturer? Thing looks very rough. Best of luck!!!
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Ummm. Wow that looks odd, looks like the FCG pocket is filled in with different material. Who's the manufacturer? Thing looks very rough. Best of luck!!!
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It looks like someone took a COMPLETE polymer lower and just filled up the fire control pocket with epoxy... But that wouldn't explain the plastic flash on the magwell. What are those shiny stickers covering the maker's markings? I'm guessing your friend put those on there, but if they came like that when you bought them, I wonder what's underneath...

Ah well, nothing to do but finish them up and go see how well they hold up.
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Tagged, that looks WEIRD.
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I'll bet they were originally mfg as complete polymer lowers but didn't make it past inspection. Somebody bought them in bulk for cheap, filled in the FCG pockets to make them 80% lowers, then hoped to cash in on the fact that 80% lowers were going for MORE than complete lowers were for several months now.

This does raise an interesting proposition for you. Perhaps it is possible to DISSOLVE whatever gunk was used to fill up the pocket, rather than mill/drill it out. I don't know what solvents would work without also damaging the polymer, but it is still a real possibility, especially if that's epoxy.

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Ten Percent out of Kern county has one in a raffle on gunbroker.com I saw them when I read the front page of their website and followed the gun broker link.

There is a company and write up
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I don't know what the heck those are... but I wouldn't let my ex-wife fire one.

Unless I was really far away.

I wouldn't touch one of these with a 10 foot pole.
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Yah... uhh that looks absolutely terrible. Is someone buying $25 airsoft guns and filling the FCG and calling it a polymer 80%?
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