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Old 12-21-2012, 10:07 PM
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There is a great lesson to be learned here.

If you think the current supply and demand and pricing for AR parts is crazy, wait til we have a big earthquake and we can't get water.

Not everyone is actually buying or wanting guns, but they will want water.

I will be stocking up this week.
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You're just now stocking up on water?
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:42 PM
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I have 2 weeks worth, will be setting up for a month
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:46 AM
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This is the perfect time of year to create that rain-catchment system...it'll be full before ya know it
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There is a great lesson to be learned here.

If you think the current supply and demand and pricing for AR parts is crazy, wait til we have a big earthquake and we can't get water.

Not everyone is actually buying or wanting guns, but they will want water.

I will be stocking up this week.
I live near a lake and a river, but I don't have a water filter yet.

The Sawyer Squeeze is supposedly good for a million gallons. Somehow I doubt it'd be durable enough to last that long, but it's an option.
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I would RUN from that company and their UN philosophy!

"Sawyer partnered with the World Health Organization (WHO)"


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I live near a lake and a river, but I don't have a water filter yet.

The Sawyer Squeeze is supposedly good for a million gallons. Somehow I doubt it'd be durable enough to last that long, but it's an option.
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Spent $900 bucks today. I didn't buy a single gun.

I was supplementing my supplies.
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Fredridge here are some companies that's in your area or somewhat close where you can get water containers or barrels:

http://www.majorsurplus.com/Water-Pu...age-C2172.aspx

http://www.sosproducts.com/

http://local.honeyvillegrain.com/ran...ail-store.html

I've dealt with all three and are good in pricing and customer service.

Also check out Pepboys Automotive. They sell Scepter blue 5 gallon water containers. They cost around $12 a piece. They are the civilian version and the plastic walls are thicker than what Walmart sells, Aquatainer brands.

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I'm thinking of getting the large water bladders for storage
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Heck if my dog can drink out of the toilet, so can I.


Really, Katadyn water filters are great.
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cdtx2001, dogs got much more robust systems that allow them to do that.

However, "they" do say you can drink the water from the toilet stand-tank no problem.
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cdtx2001, dogs got much more robust systems that allow them to do that.

However, "they" do say you can drink the water from the toilet stand-tank no problem.
um, I'd still purify it first.

It's still hooked up to a septic system...even if there is no direct contact.
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I sure wish it was easier to get a Berky here. Those things rock!
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Its that time of the year for me to restock and rotate and add things.
I now feel like in our current state, we pretty much need to hide a grocery store in the garage!
At least the water part is the easiest. Space is the only thing killing me.
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install or fortify the perimeter your apartment/condo.

Maintain proper agitation to distribute chlorine: Defend it.
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Definitely worth storing water. Some thing that I need to improve upon.
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I live near a lake and a river, but I don't have a water filter yet.

The Sawyer Squeeze is supposedly good for a million gallons. Somehow I doubt it'd be durable enough to last that long, but it's an option.
The filter is good for that many gallons, but presumably you'd go through quite a few of the water bags or your own water bottles. You can also rig the filter between a couple of 5-gallon buckets, using gravity to feed through the filter from one bucket sitting higher than the other.
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At the very least, go down to your pool supply store and get some chlorine pool shock. Use it to make liquid chlorine and you can purify tens of thousands of gallons with one little $8 bag.

Google it for instructions. Too lazy today.
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Also, water purification tabs are a moderately priced option until you can find something better or afford something more expensive. These straw thingies also seem like they're a good idea to have

http://www.amazon.com/Vestergaard-Fr...fication+straw
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Also, water purification tabs are a moderately priced option until you can find something better or afford something more expensive. These straw thingies also seem like they're a good idea to have

http://www.amazon.com/Vestergaard-Fr...fication+straw
.2 micron filter size, I'll filter, then boil...
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install or fortify the perimeter your apartment/condo.

Maintain proper agitation to distribute chlorine: Defend it.
heh

I haven't made punji sticks in years....better practice.

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You are paying too much for water barrels. Try here:

http://www.myproship.com/index.aspx?...e=2&sku=34217P
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You are paying too much for water barrels. Try here:

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I like to keep a bunch of clear plastic bags. You can put them over branches of trees to collect water. 2 or 3 bags set up like this can collect about a glass of water a day.
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What's the magic number? Annount per person per day? Not including cooking...
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I am way low compared to some of you guys, just the wife and I, I have a little over 20 gallons stored.

I just buy the 1 gallon bottles from Costco or when I see them on sale.
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I am way low compared to some of you guys, just the wife and I, I have a little over 20 gallons stored.

I just buy the 1 gallon bottles from Costco or when I see them on sale.
You have 30-50 gallons at any given time in your hot water heater. Amazing how many folks do not know/or think about that.
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Costco has the best deal. $91.25 for a 55 gallon barrel if you buy the bulk pack:

8 - 55 Gallon Water Containers
Barrel is made from high-density polyethylene (food grade/ BPA Free).
Barrel comes in blue color to restrict light, which helps to control the growth of bacteria and algae.
Barrel weight when full is approximately 480 lbs.
8 - Water Pumps (45" long, 3 wide) Hose (47" long, 1" wide)
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I only need 4. Anyone willing to purchase this set with me? If so, PM me and we can work out the details.

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UCBRUINS - I would take one. I'm in East LA
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Don't forget dehydrated food requires water, so buy extra containers for drinking.
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Also check out Pepboys Automotive. They sell Scepter blue 5 gallon water containers. They cost around $12 a piece. They are the civilian version and the plastic walls are thicker than what Walmart sells, Aquatainer brands.
+1 Those containers are awesome. I was looking at those vs the military containers. Bought one for the price and then subjected to dropping it, jumping on it, and beating the crap out of it both full and empty. Held up like a champ. They usually have limited stock, so I'll stop by and buy one when I see it. Have had 5 now for almost a year and have had no leaks. Very impressesed for the $$.
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SoS does a sidewalk sale once a year. That's the time to get your 55
I plan on getting 1 or two this time around.
Going off of memory it was in June.
Last year it was pretty packed.
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This is the perfect time of year to create that rain-catchment system...it'll be full before ya know it
How much rain will there be and how much can be stored?
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[QUOTE=bigtruck;9994385]I'm thinking of getting the large water bladders for storage[/QUOTE

I've been eyeing them a bit too, but the 55 gallon drums seem like they're much easier to store
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I have been saying this to friends and family for a long time about ammo water etc and thought I was crazy. Alaska just had a huge earth quake yesterday like a 7.5 When we had our big one lots of people will be dried up and thirsty.
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+1 Those containers are awesome. I was looking at those vs the military containers. Bought one for the price and then subjected to dropping it, jumping on it, and beating the crap out of it both full and empty. Held up like a champ. They usually have limited stock, so I'll stop by and buy one when I see it. Have had 5 now for almost a year and have had no leaks. Very impressesed for the $$.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who also did a "un-official torture" test. Tommyboy sometime if you don't see them on the display shelf you can ask an employee and most of the time they have them in back storage. I've had mine for over 5 years now and have several of them.
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One caution on the sawyer water filters: you absolutely cannot let them freeze. I own one as well as a Katadyn pocket. The sawyer's work on the same principle as the filtrate material for dialysis machines...the filament tubules have a hugely large surface area for their size and filter based on this principle. But basically, when you get down to such a level of filtration, you become that much more susceptible to damage from tubule deformation...aka "freezing".

Therefore, if you even suspect that the temps may go below 32'F (or even with windchill), you better walk and sleep with your filter right next to your body.

Once the filter freezes, sawyer themselves say the damage is "indeterminate". When it comes to something as critical as clean water, I don't like that word.

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