Calguns.net  

Home My iTrader Join the NRA Donate to CGSSA Sponsors CGN Google Search
CA Semiauto Ban(AW)ID Flowchart CA Handgun Ban ID Flowchart CA Shotgun Ban ID Flowchart
Go Back   Calguns.net > POLITICS, LITIGATION AND ACTIVISM > 2nd Amend. Litigation Updates & Legal Discussion
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

2nd Amend. Litigation Updates & Legal Discussion Discuss California 2A related litigation and legal topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #41  
Old 12-20-2012, 6:16 PM
kemasa's Avatar
kemasa kemasa is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Ventura County, CA
Posts: 6,806
iTrader: 5 / 100%
Default

if you are not locked up in a jail or a mental ward, then you have passed the yearly background check.
__________________
Kemasa.
FFL Transfer/Special Order Dealer since 1993.
Net-FFL list maintainer.

Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 12-20-2012, 6:49 PM
Theseus's Avatar
Theseus Theseus is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Lamma Island, HK
Posts: 2,660
iTrader: 9 / 100%
Default

As the post suggests, get names and numbers. All easy attempts without a bureaucrat to tie it too is wasted effort.

Also, I once read in the front of a phone book a disclaimer that a short beep tone may be notice that my call is being recorded, and that continuing the conversation is acceptance.

Sent via Note 2 Lte
__________________
Nothing to see here. . . Move along.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 12-20-2012, 7:40 PM
gigglemonkee's Avatar
gigglemonkee gigglemonkee is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North San Diego
Posts: 1,525
iTrader: 19 / 100%
Default

I have a feeling they are so backed up they are just delaying dros so that they can take as long as they want and there is nothing to do while it is in "delay" status
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 12-21-2012, 2:39 AM
mrdd mrdd is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Francisco Bay
Posts: 1,675
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gigglemonkee View Post
I have a feeling they are so backed up they are just delaying dros so that they can take as long as they want and there is nothing to do while it is in "delay" status
You are letting them off too easy. This is new this year.
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 12-21-2012, 9:52 AM
gigglemonkee's Avatar
gigglemonkee gigglemonkee is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North San Diego
Posts: 1,525
iTrader: 19 / 100%
Default

Well if any 2A lawyers want to use me to make an example of them it is fine by me.
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 12-24-2012, 6:14 PM
potter potter is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: San Bernardino county
Posts: 4
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Bang bang Calgunners, Hey I'm just following up my closed thread "denied and depressed". After having an Escort MA SA Tac2 delayed for 4 months then finally Denied, I caved in and got a refund from Big5, thanks to them for not charging a restocking fee. But, I feel its partly their fault because they 1st sold me a defective weapon, which was approved and I brought it home, but when I returned it and had to re-DROS for the replacement, thats where I was delayed 4 months, then denied.
Also they (Big5) made a mistake on their (DROS) form and just crossed it out instead of starting a new form. I now have heard that any mistakes on DROS forms will cause scrutiny. I have bought 5 other guns and was a registered "armed security officer", all approved by the BoF and the "Bureau of Security and Investigative Services".
So, I'm bummed out, won't say depressed, as that might imply some mental problems.

But, now I'm wondering whats next. Are they going to try to confiscate my other guns? Will they prosecute me for owning guns when they denied me because they say that I'm a felon? Don't know if you remember, but I was arrested 45 years ago for a youth drug offense, got suspended sentence, did summary probation, paid a fine, got felony reduced to a misdemeanor and dismissed.

Also wondering if BoF can be sued for malice of job performance? Its that same annalist thats been on vacation and has caused grief to many other
DROS applicants. My gut feeling is that she is new and that others were covering for her. The same voice that was on all their phone messages.
Again just my gut feeling, but when she called me to inform of my delay, she had to ask other annalists and finally a supervisor for support and conformation of her decision. All this made me feel that she was a secretary and newly promoted to annalist because of BoF's heavy work load.

Hey, what has been done to me has already been done. I'm just hoping that some of my feelings might help some other member that can afford an attorney and might somehow stick it to the BoF for their lousy job performance.

I understand that I'm new here and don't deserve any consideration, but I do feel that the BOF needs to be spanked as they are way, overstepping their job duties.

potter
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 12-24-2012, 7:24 PM
durandal's Avatar
durandal durandal is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: SF Bay
Posts: 1,435
iTrader: 24 / 96%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrubmaster View Post
I brought it up too, only to be met with countless "black helicopter" replies. Last time I try to keep the calguns community up to date on REAL threats to individuals rights.
Come now, dont give up.
__________________
---
WTB: old cz75 with round trigger guard & spur hammer, sf bay
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 12-26-2012, 8:34 PM
Frozenguy's Avatar
Frozenguy Frozenguy is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: East Bay
Posts: 6,030
iTrader: 30 / 100%
Default

I was delayed.

Called today and she said there are 9-13 thousand applications coming in PER DAY.

She also said they are on max schedules and can only process about 5000 a day.

This is only an explanation for the past 1.5 weeks.


She told me to give it an additional 7-10 days and it should be GTG, if not call back.

Hope this doesn't happen with my other DROS's. Probably will
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 12-27-2012, 12:41 AM
mrdd mrdd is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Francisco Bay
Posts: 1,675
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Oh the retards in Sacramento. The DROS fees are supposed to cover the cost of processing the DROS.

10,000 * $35 = $350,000 per DAY

$126 MILLION per year!

Someone had better get off their butt and start hiring more people.
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 12-27-2012, 12:51 AM
Dantedamean's Avatar
Dantedamean Dantedamean is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,257
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdd View Post
Oh the retards in Sacramento. The DROS fees are supposed to cover the cost of processing the DROS.

10,000 * $35 = $350,000 per DAY

$126 MILLION per year!

Someone had better get off their butt and start hiring more people.
Wasn't there a new bill passed that reallocated those funds some where else, so they no longer cover the cost of the DROS? I remember reading something about that then I never heard about it again.
Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 12-27-2012, 5:36 AM
clbshooter clbshooter is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Punta Gorda Fl. !!!!!
Posts: 369
iTrader: 2 / 100%
Default What phone number ?

I have been delayed since Dec. 7th. All the numbers I have called only go thru to the message about the hours they will accept calls, so please give me some other numbers that you have gotten thru on. This is driving me crazy. Oh and yes I have e-mailed as well.
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 12-28-2012, 12:20 PM
Dustyzz Dustyzz is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 21
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Went to pick up a rifle I bought on 12/17 and got a nice very non specific DOJ form letter saying "DELAY DELIVERY DO NOT RELEASE THE FIREARM UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE FROM DOJ"... I've lived in CA since 1989 and have never even had as much as a parking ticket. Guess I'm going to call them between 2 - 4 pm today to see what they say. Wish me luck.
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 12-28-2012, 12:32 PM
clbshooter clbshooter is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Punta Gorda Fl. !!!!!
Posts: 369
iTrader: 2 / 100%
Default Good luck

Hey Dusty, good luck, I have been calling them since Dec 7th with no reply. Bought a 10-22 ( 5th gun in last 2.5-3 years from same FFL) on black Fri. and they called the FFL on the 6th with a delay but I never got anything from DOJ just a call from Turner's where I bought the .22. If you get thru let me know what number please. thanks
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 12-28-2012, 12:59 PM
mrdd mrdd is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Francisco Bay
Posts: 1,675
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

I wonder if they are using "delay" as a tactic because they are understaffed and overloaded?
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 12-28-2012, 1:03 PM
tcrpe's Avatar
tcrpe tcrpe is offline
I need a LIFE!!
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Bakersfield, California
Posts: 10,272
iTrader: 3 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Attorney General Kamala D. Harris Issues Statement

Friday, December 21, 2012
Contact: (415) 703-5837

SAN FRANCISCO -- Attorney General Kamala D. Harris today issued the following statement in response to the National Rifle Association’s press conference:

“It has been a painful week since the horrifying tragedy in Newtown. Instead of reckless calls to saturate our schools with guns, we should remove guns from the hands of dangerous people. California is the only state with a strong program that identifies and disarms prohibited persons, which should serve as a national model. I will strengthen this program and support stricter state and federal legislation, including Senator Feinstein’s effort to pass a federal assault weapons ban.”
Delay, delay, delay . . . . .
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverTauron View Post
Considering the facts of how easily safes can be defeated, a park bench offers the same amount of protection.
Quote:
Originally Posted by loose_electron View Post
PE card? LOL! Any green kid out of engineering school can get that with a few years of experience.
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 12-28-2012, 2:10 PM
TheDigitalPicasso's Avatar
TheDigitalPicasso TheDigitalPicasso is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 1,627
iTrader: 29 / 100%
Default

I'm picking up 2 lowers on Jan 3rd and I wonder what will happen since she's submitting the bill that day. But I did purchased a rifle after the shooting and picked up last week without a problem.
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 12-28-2012, 2:22 PM
Dustyzz Dustyzz is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 21
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Got thru to the CA DOJ and chatted with a very pleasant gentleman with the BOF who informed me that if you get a delay letter it simply means they are completely backed up and that it is not a denial. I asked for a guesstimate on how long the delay would be and he replied that they "hope" to be caught up by the middle of January. Since that is really close to being 30 days on my dros I asked him if I would have have to resubmit my dros if the delay lasted longer than January 15th and his reply was that right now the 30 day clock is stopped on all "delayed" dros applications, so no I will not be required to resubmit the dros even if it goes into February.

Not sure what all that really means, but I thought I'd pass along the info I that CA DOJ is telling folks.

Hope this helps.

Last edited by Dustyzz; 12-28-2012 at 3:29 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 12-28-2012, 3:06 PM
violentmouse's Avatar
violentmouse violentmouse is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: SoCal.
Posts: 71
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

so basically what we are all looking at is the 10 day waiting period has become longer than ten days? Would you not agree with me in saying this must violate some kind of law? it's become a burden to the buyer rather than a safety issue. do we not have any legal foothold on this issue? since in 40+ other states all they do is make a phone call and there is no waiting period....imagine if you went to the gas station and had to wait ten days for gasoline.... then suddenly the system is burdened with people demanding gas causing waiting periods to climb to 30 days or more.... society would collapse!!! lol

Last edited by violentmouse; 12-28-2012 at 3:07 PM.. Reason: typo
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 12-28-2012, 3:11 PM
tcrpe's Avatar
tcrpe tcrpe is offline
I need a LIFE!!
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Bakersfield, California
Posts: 10,272
iTrader: 3 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdd View Post
I wonder if they are using "delay" as a tactic because they are understaffed and overloaded?
They are neither understaffed nor overworked overloaded.

This is the State of California we're talking about.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverTauron View Post
Considering the facts of how easily safes can be defeated, a park bench offers the same amount of protection.
Quote:
Originally Posted by loose_electron View Post
PE card? LOL! Any green kid out of engineering school can get that with a few years of experience.
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 12-28-2012, 3:20 PM
violentmouse's Avatar
violentmouse violentmouse is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: SoCal.
Posts: 71
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

mrdd meant to say they are OVERPAID and UNDERWORKED
__________________
You don't blame cars for speeding or D.U.I's yet you put the most unqualified people behind the wheel!
Then you blame guns for senseless acts of violence and prohibit the most qualified people from owning them?
My keyboard is at fault for all typographical errors so flame the keyboard not me.

P.S come for my guns I F****** dare you
Reply With Quote
  #61  
Old 12-28-2012, 5:09 PM
mrdd mrdd is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Francisco Bay
Posts: 1,675
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dustyzz View Post
Got thru to the CA DOJ and chatted with a very pleasant gentleman with the BOF who informed me that if you get a delay letter it simply means they are completely backed up and that it is not a denial. I asked for a guesstimate on how long the delay would be and he replied that they "hope" to be caught up by the middle of January. Since that is really close to being 30 days on my dros I asked him if I would have have to resubmit my dros if the delay lasted longer than January 15th and his reply was that right now the 30 day clock is stopped on all "delayed" dros applications, so no I will not be required to resubmit the dros even if it goes into February.

Not sure what all that really means, but I thought I'd pass along the info I that CA DOJ is telling folks.

Hope this helps.
This is B.S. Ten days means ten days!
Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old 12-28-2012, 5:26 PM
madjack956's Avatar
madjack956 madjack956 is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: ORANGE COUNTY
Posts: 2,035
iTrader: 9 / 100%
Default

I dont want to sound like the tin foil hat guy but, Colorado and Cali are having the same problem. Is it possibly a stall tactic?
__________________
Paralyzed Veterans of America www.pva.org
Reply With Quote
  #63  
Old 12-28-2012, 6:19 PM
randian randian is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,211
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdd View Post
This is B.S. Ten days means ten days!
Not unless there's a specified penalty or result in the law. For example, automatic approval if the 10 day limit isn't met, or the applicant gets that one for free. Otherwise, I submit "ten days" means nothing.
Reply With Quote
  #64  
Old 12-31-2012, 12:33 PM
echo1's Avatar
echo1 echo1 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: San Joaquin County
Posts: 1,624
iTrader: 26 / 100%
Default

In March I got a "delay delivery" tag to my FFL on an AR lower DROS. It was for a feloney VC arrest in 1971, resolved as a misdemeanor. I attempted to retrieve the records as the DOJ requested but to no avail, as the court purges misdemeanors prior to 1975. I wrote to the DOJ and spelled out what I tried to do and what I was told by the records department. To my surprise a DOJ agent called me (in September) and said it was straightened out, and email sent to the FFL approving the DROS, and in the future I would not have any issues. I went right out and bought a Century SKS to see if there would be a hang up. None (nice Sinobainian too). They made it good and fixed the errors.
FYI $1200 bucks was a lot of ducats in '71 to fix my bad teen age (19)judgement. Thanks Dad. PAX
__________________
You need a crew

"A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined" (George Washington), but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of Independence from any who might attempt to abuse them. Sent from behind the KaliKurtain echo1
Reply With Quote
  #65  
Old 12-31-2012, 2:00 PM
wildhawker's Avatar
wildhawker wildhawker is offline
I need a LIFE!!
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: California
Posts: 14,407
iTrader: 84 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by madjack956 View Post
I dont want to sound like the tin foil hat guy but, Colorado and Cali are having the same problem. Is it possibly a stall tactic?
Mutually exclusive issues.

-Brandon
__________________
Brandon Combs

I do not read private messages, and my inbox is usually full. If you need to reach me, please email me instead.

My comments are not the official position or a statement of any organization unless stated otherwise. My comments are not legal advice; if you want or need legal advice, hire a lawyer.
Reply With Quote
  #66  
Old 01-02-2013, 2:30 PM
gigglemonkee's Avatar
gigglemonkee gigglemonkee is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North San Diego
Posts: 1,525
iTrader: 19 / 100%
Default

Just called again 2 weeks into delay and have been told I just have to wait and the analysts will get to it when they get to it. Also any firearm purchases I do in meantime will automatically go into delay as well.
Reply With Quote
  #67  
Old 01-02-2013, 9:05 PM
cuat_420's Avatar
cuat_420 cuat_420 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Camarillo, CA
Posts: 191
iTrader: 6 / 100%
Default

I also spoke to them recently and I was told that if your dros was delayed, they are not even looking at them until gun sales die down. The problem is, they only have 10 days to look at a new request...if they miss one because they are busy reevaluating the delayed requests, there is a potential for someone to slip through who isn't authorized to have one. Please don't read this as "I agree with them", because I dont and I think it is bs. Mine is delayed for an arrest in 1995 that never even went to court because the charges were dropped. I joined the military in 1997 and currently hold an active top secret clearance. I went back to TN last month, got certified/notarized copies of the warrant and disposition, and faxed them over on the 21st of Dec. They will neither confirm that they have received the faxes nor give me any idea of when it will be resolved. I have tried to provide proof of ny TS clearance, and was told I would just have to wait. I have given my info to Brandon, and I encourage everyone else to do the same if you havent already.
Reply With Quote
  #68  
Old 01-02-2013, 9:06 PM
cuat_420's Avatar
cuat_420 cuat_420 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Camarillo, CA
Posts: 191
iTrader: 6 / 100%
Default

Double Post
Reply With Quote
  #69  
Old 01-04-2013, 2:55 PM
cdtx2001's Avatar
cdtx2001 cdtx2001 is offline
Rebel Scum
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Over Here
Posts: 5,911
iTrader: 66 / 100%
Default

A guy bought an AR off me a couple months ago and is delayed. DOJ keeps tellung him to call this person or that, and they need paperwork for another thing. He is not a prohibited person and they supposedly don't like an arrest (with no conviction, case dismissed) from over 10 years ago.

I'm trying to get him to sign up here so the pros can help him better than I can.
__________________
WTB- A2 Flash Suppressors And Front Sight Towers
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=906994

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side kid" -Han Solo

"A dull knife is as useless as the man who would dare carry it"
Reply With Quote
  #70  
Old 01-04-2013, 5:24 PM
gigglemonkee's Avatar
gigglemonkee gigglemonkee is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North San Diego
Posts: 1,525
iTrader: 19 / 100%
Default

Found out mine is delayed because of a parking ticket I am disputing in San Diego. Until they clear it up with no time frame I can't pick up my cz or any other firearm I decide to purchase and it can take months with the backlog.
Reply With Quote
  #71  
Old 01-04-2013, 5:34 PM
cuat_420's Avatar
cuat_420 cuat_420 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Camarillo, CA
Posts: 191
iTrader: 6 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by clbshooter View Post
I have been delayed since Dec. 7th. All the numbers I have called only go thru to the message about the hours they will accept calls, so please give me some other numbers that you have gotten thru on. This is driving me crazy. Oh and yes I have e-mailed as well.
Just keep calling. I have had to call, hang up, call, hang up, etc for 30 minutes or so until someone answers. If the recording starts to play, hang up and call right back...I look at the recording as a busy signal. Eventually you will get through, but it will be of no use because it will be a guy/girl in another building who will tell you that they are so busy the actual people reviewing the DROS are not taking calls...they will be of little to no help and just tell you that you have to wait. Good luck, and if someone does eventually get through to an agent that can answer questions, PLEASE let us know!!
Reply With Quote
  #72  
Old 01-04-2013, 11:46 PM
Zues's Avatar
Zues Zues is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Los Banos, CA
Posts: 115
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

I got told that I my dros is being delayed today and when I called the doj they had a message play saying that they are not excepting calls until Jan 14th. I have nothing on my record and have had no tickets of any sort. I think it is bs though.
__________________
Zues

You Can Not Put A Price On Safety

NRA Life Of Duty Member
Reply With Quote
  #73  
Old 01-05-2013, 12:16 AM
RP1911's Avatar
RP1911 RP1911 is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Minden, NV.
Posts: 4,669
iTrader: 158 / 100%
Default

I just hope all these cases can be used to knock down the 10-day wait to instant check system.
Reply With Quote
  #74  
Old 01-05-2013, 2:55 AM
DarthSean's Avatar
DarthSean DarthSean is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 840
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

1. If the DROS fees are getting sent somewhere else, is there some way to challenge their existence in court? Especially since Yee wants new fees?

2. Other countries like South Africa have used endless and deliberately short-staffed bureaucracy to essentially stop firearm purchases. Is there any way to challenge the CA DROS as a 2A violation? Also, if CA was forces to use the FBI's national system, wouldn't that also put pressure on CA to accept the funding from the 2007 NICS Improvement act, and thus make a strong legal case to force the state to implement a program to restore gun rights on a case-by-case basis to people that were committed under questionable circumstances, or who have been successfully treated to where a prohibition is no longer appropriate?
__________________
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

-Sigmund Freud

If Islam is a religion of peace, shouldn't it's extremists be pacifists?
Reply With Quote
  #75  
Old 01-05-2013, 12:57 PM
PlayHard's Avatar
PlayHard PlayHard is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 205
iTrader: 20 / 100%
Default

I am now on my 76th day in DROS. The person who was my contact can no longer take or make calls . . . I wrote a post here about the "New DROS System", as mentioned to me by a lower-level DOJ Representative . . . do some of you believe me now?!?

I have submitted my info to the CGN Foundation . . . any help would be appreciated.
Reply With Quote
  #76  
Old 01-05-2013, 3:23 PM
Dantedamean's Avatar
Dantedamean Dantedamean is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,257
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PlayHard View Post
I am now on my 76th day in DROS. The person who was my contact can no longer take or make calls . . . I wrote a post here about the "New DROS System", as mentioned to me by a lower-level DOJ Representative . . . do some of you believe me now?!?

I have submitted my info to the CGN Foundation . . . any help would be appreciated.
Wow, I would be on the phone every 10 minutes arguing with someone.
Reply With Quote
  #77  
Old 01-05-2013, 3:56 PM
PlayHard's Avatar
PlayHard PlayHard is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 205
iTrader: 20 / 100%
Default

I did . . . twice a week, religiously. Now everything goes thru the hotline until 1/14/13.
Reply With Quote
  #78  
Old 01-05-2013, 6:54 PM
clbshooter clbshooter is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Punta Gorda Fl. !!!!!
Posts: 369
iTrader: 2 / 100%
Default

Dantedamean---no you would not. This is happening to me and alot of other people. First thing first they WILL not answer the phone. Second if they do call you back after you leave a message or respond to a e-mail the person you are talking to is not the DROS person who is making the decisions just a flunky answering the phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU need to read the threads completely before you make such a rash statement. What you and alot of other fellow gun enthusiasts need to do is search here and read all the posts to really understand what is going on. Oh another thing, are you married, have kids, have a job, have parents that need you, have a dog that needs to go for a walk, need to tend to your yard. When do you have the time to call them between 1 pm and 4PM when they were excepting calls but now say no calls until 1-14-13 but this date will be pushed out as well. Going thru this has made me feel like a criminal but I assure everyone that is not the case with me and most of the people that have been delayed. Think about this and put yourself in our shoes on how you would do anything differently than anyone that this is happening to. Ok end of rant but seriously search the threads and then come to an informed opinion. I am/was a normal tax paying law abiding caring person but what I believe is happening is that CADOJ IS SEEING JUST HOW FAR THEY CAN PUSH THE GOOD PEOPLE OF THIS STATE TO KEEP THEM FROM EXERCISING THEIR 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS. Ok now is the end of my rant but this is going to be the norm instead of the exception to all of us.
Reply With Quote
  #79  
Old 01-05-2013, 9:48 PM
Dantedamean's Avatar
Dantedamean Dantedamean is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,257
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by clbshooter View Post
Dantedamean---no you would not. This is happening to me and alot of other people. First thing first they WILL not answer the phone. Second if they do call you back after you leave a message or respond to a e-mail the person you are talking to is not the DROS person who is making the decisions just a flunky answering the phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU need to read the threads completely before you make such a rash statement. What you and alot of other fellow gun enthusiasts need to do is search here and read all the posts to really understand what is going on. Oh another thing, are you married, have kids, have a job, have parents that need you, have a dog that needs to go for a walk, need to tend to your yard. When do you have the time to call them between 1 pm and 4PM when they were excepting calls but now say no calls until 1-14-13 but this date will be pushed out as well. Going thru this has made me feel like a criminal but I assure everyone that is not the case with me and most of the people that have been delayed. Think about this and put yourself in our shoes on how you would do anything differently than anyone that this is happening to. Ok end of rant but seriously search the threads and then come to an informed opinion. I am/was a normal tax paying law abiding caring person but what I believe is happening is that CADOJ IS SEEING JUST HOW FAR THEY CAN PUSH THE GOOD PEOPLE OF THIS STATE TO KEEP THEM FROM EXERCISING THEIR 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS. Ok now is the end of my rant but this is going to be the norm instead of the exception to all of us.
Wow dude chill out, first off if you had read the whole thread you would see that I have been posting here since it started as another thread. So yes I understand what is going on, you ever hear the squeaky wheel gets the grease? You bug them enough and maybe they'll get tired of dealing with you, maybe they won't. Sitting there waiting won't do anything.

Don't worry I'll let you know how it goes because I purchased a shot gun a few days ago, it hasn't shipped yet and I haven't been able to start the DROS. However I am fairly certain that it will be delayed as I have a past arrest.
Reply With Quote
  #80  
Old 01-05-2013, 9:56 PM
Citadelonline Citadelonline is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 114
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default A lot of conjecture here

I'd like to hear from, in this thread or a separate thread, individuals who have DROS'd a firearm with no conflicts, delays or questionable denials during the recent time period in question.
A little balance might be useful in characterizing the proportionality, extent and relative number of processing issues being experienced.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 7:21 PM.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Proudly hosted by GeoVario the Premier 2A host.
Calguns.net, the 'Calguns' name and all associated variants and logos are ® Trademark and © Copyright 2002-2016, Calguns.net an Incorporated Company All Rights Reserved.