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Old 12-25-2012, 11:32 PM
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I work for the Department of Corrections as a non peace officer and got the confidential license plates through the DMV. You have to reapply when you get a new car. My question is is it really necessary? Can somebody easily find my info without it in place if they aren't LEO?
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All it takes is the wrong person having a friend or relative at the DMV. If you work for the Department of Corrections, you should know how the gangs work and the reach they have.
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Old 12-25-2012, 11:59 PM
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Why wouldn't you? Two minutes and a stamp. Do it.
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:17 AM
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All it takes is the wrong person having a friend or relative at the DMV. If you work for the Department of Corrections, you should know how the gangs work and the reach they have.
Yeah I know but it's just as easy to follow me home from the parking lot.
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Yeah I know but it's just as easy to follow me home from the parking lot.
It shouldn't be if you take your job seriously. No one is forcing you to get the confidentiality. If you don't think you need it, don't do it.
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Yeah I know but it's just as easy to follow me home from the parking lot.
Given that you live in Visalia, I'm guessing you work at Corcoran? In the Visalia area, it should be REALLY hard for someone to follow you home if you pay attention to your own surroundings.

Why are you even hesitating to get the confidential protection on your plates? It's filling out one form -- takes five minutes.

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Any resource that's available to help your security is a plus. I suppose someone could follow you home but having your head on a swivel should help prevent that.

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Put your name/address in google and see what pops up. If nothing does then it would be a good idea to complete confidentiality again. But if your address and picture of your house pops up like 99% of us, let sleeping dogs lie.
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When I go to the DMV or AAA, the worker always has to ask me for my DL because they say they can't pull up my info on the screen... wonder if they just want to verify my address so they can sell the info to the gangs?
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Sorry to thread jack, but what are you guys talking about by confidential license plates? Im going into the academy in January and I've never heard anything like this. Would this be something I should do when I graduate?
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Skyscaper- yes, once you are on with a dept. Some depts. will require you to be off training or probation before they allow you to get the form, others will strongly encourage you in the FT process.
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Skyscaper- yes, once you are on with a dept. Some depts. will require you to be off training or probation before they allow you to get the form, others will strongly encourage you in the FT process.
Thank you Sir. I will look into this after the academy.
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Thank you Sir. I will look into this after the academy.
You can always ask your coordinating sergeant as to your department's specific policy regarding confidential license plates. No harm in learning.
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If someone wants to find you, they will find you. Confidential plates are overrated and provide a false sense of security. Just be aware of vehicles when you drive home and don't be a creature of habit.
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Sorry to thread jack, but what are you guys talking about by confidential license plates? Im going into the academy in January and I've never heard anything like this. Would this be something I should do when I graduate?
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I do try to be aware of my surroundings but cars following you home could be and most likely is coworkers that are also going home. I'm not concerned with the time it takes to fill out the form. Mostly just wondering if it really matters. The times I went to the DMV I had to give them my license or paper filled out with my address so they have it anyway.
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Put your name/address in google and see what pops up. If nothing does then it would be a good idea to complete confidentiality again. But if your address and picture of your house pops up like 99% of us, let sleeping dogs lie.
X2, Pepole, some LEO's, put way too much personal info on the web through social sites. There are several cites that block your info on the web if you are a LEO. Google your info periodically.
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For the amount of effort involved, the piece of mind is well worth it. I live in the same town in which I work as well as the same location of the regional DMV office so for my purposes, the likelihood of someone being related to or knowing an employee who may work there is much greater.

Also I had asked a collegue of mine the same question and he had said, which I can't confirm independently, that it is, or what legal at one time to go into the DMV and request the public record information on file about anyone. With a DMV confidentiality agreement, a person who wants to do this, will receive no information.
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Old 12-26-2012, 3:09 PM
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You can always ask your coordinating sergeant as to your department's specific policy regarding confidential license plates. No harm in learning.
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Thanks guys. I will follow up on this.
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For the amount of effort involved, the piece of mind is well worth it. I live in the same town in which I work as well as the same location of the regional DMV office so for my purposes, the likelihood of someone being related to or knowing an employee who may work there is much greater.

Also I had asked a collegue of mine the same question and he had said, which I can't confirm independently, that it is, or what legal at one time to go into the DMV and request the public record information on file about anyone. With a DMV confidentiality agreement, a person who wants to do this, will receive no information.
It used to be like that but the laws changed and John Q. Public can't just walk into the DMV to ask for info. Now it's only LE and insurance companies that can request info on people through the DMV... and not sure about any other exempted parties who can retrieve info legally.
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If you'r a peace officer, judge etc. you can have your voter registration made confidential. Then the mail will go to your mailing address. Your real address will not appear on commercial walk lists or the roster at the polling place. You will be a permanent absentee voter. Of course if you own any real property in your name you can be found.
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. Of course if you own any real property in your name you can be found.
And THAT is what makes the exemption form next to useless
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Unfortunately, There is quite a number of permissible request reasons, listed on DMV form INF70
An employer, or business that may have a need to verify an address that was claimed, which sounds like any place you might apply to work
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Lots of crooks family members work at the DMV just walk in and look around at the employees. I don't think they do much of a background check.
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Yeah I know but it's just as easy to follow me home from the parking lot.
Well you should alternate your routes. Never take the same route home.

Sorry got this stuff stuck in my head, I think it was from those military training during 9/11 etc...
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There used to be a time when anyone could walk into the DMV, pay $1, and give a license number and get the full address of the owner. Heck I remember registrations having to be attached to the top of the steering column for easy reading.

Getting your info from a license plate is not that easy any more. While some go through the effort to hide their plate, do you also not leave ANYTHING out in the car with information on it? Mail? Dry cleaning receipts? Papers from work? Kid's homework? Do you pay cash where ever you go? (I'll be in line behind you and when you leave I will say that 'we' need a duplicate receipt, or I offer to pay your bill if they cancel yours, and give me a receipt). Do you make small talk with the barber? Do you park your car in a garage so no one can find it on a street?

I think getting a confidential plate will give many people a false sense of security!
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If someone really wants to take you out, they will. I will, however, use all available resources to make it more difficult.
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I would do it. We've had an Officer from my Dept harassed by angry defendants. We found out later the guy had a aunt working at the DMV.
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Well you should alternate your routes. Never take the same route home.

Sorry got this stuff stuck in my head, I think it was from those military training during 9/11 etc...
Last night I followed someone home from work for 40 min. About 4 block's away from my house. The problem is that there is a bunch of cars going away from the prison.
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Anyone know where to order the form? Or have a PDF copy? We ran out (or can't find them) and I'm in charge of our paperwork...but don't know how to get more.
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Anyone know where to order the form? Or have a PDF copy? We ran out (or can't find them) and I'm in charge of our paperwork...but don't know how to get more.
They are provided by DMV, and they only take originals. No photocopies of the form or electronic versions.
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I do try to be aware of my surroundings but cars following you home could be and most likely is coworkers that are also going home.
You could also take a different route home every day. If you think someone is following you then make a few oddball turns or get off then right back on the freeway. The confidentiality is just an additional tool to use.
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Anyone know where to order the form? Or have a PDF copy? We ran out (or can't find them) and I'm in charge of our paperwork...but don't know how to get more.
Go to DMV's website under forms there is a phone number to order large quantities of forms. Call them and ask them to send the form order information for le forms to your department. It comes from the same place 180's and dui paper work comes from.
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Anyone know where to order the form? Or have a PDF copy? We ran out (or can't find them) and I'm in charge of our paperwork...but don't know how to get more.
INV 32 is the form you need.
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Confidential license plates will not stop those who wants to harm you. It's a feel good measure but burn all illusions: you are not safe. It's easy to obtain the info online.
The best thing for you is do your job right, don't step on anyone's toes at work and keep your mouth shut at all times.
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One thing I told recruits is to NOT use the confidential plates / CDL without thinking it through. Badguys can easily access DMV info. If they run your plate and it comes up confidential, they pretty much have confirmed it is your car. Instead, reg it in a family member's name, etc. and use a PO BOX. New USPS regs allow you to use the street address of the PO in lieu of PO BOX, so PO BOX 234, Anytown, CA now can be 789 Maple St. (the P.O.'s st. address), # 234, Anytown, CA.

Another benefit is if you are in a POV off duty crash. You are not required to declare where you work as you exchange required info after a minor fender bender. The other driver's insurance co. will run your plate pro forma. If it comes back LE, sometimes it changes the attitude of the other side and the dynamics.

Most of the recruits wanted to do the confidential not so much for confidentiality, but they felt that if they were about to get pulled over the officers making the stop would run the plate, have if come back as LE confidential, declare, "My gosh, it's a brother in blue, we can't cite HIM!" then drive by with a wave and a big smile. Right. :-) Rookies.
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When they get your plate return, some decide to wave, then they just go tell your boss how you were driving in your POV, then you get called to the principals office
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Go to DMV's website under forms there is a phone number to order large quantities of forms. Call them and ask them to send the form order information for le forms to your department. It comes from the same place 180's and dui paper work comes from.
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