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Old 12-30-2012, 7:10 PM
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Default Ok to ship off roster firearm for ppt?

I was wondering if it was ok to ship a firearm to another gunshop for a ppt that is off roster. Since its still considered a PPT the off roster firearm is good to go?
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Old 12-30-2012, 7:18 PM
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Not an FFL, but if you ship it is not considered a PPT, and must comply with the roster, or the buyer is roster exempt.

To be a true PPT, both parties must be present for the transaction.

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I don't think there would be much call for the single shot exemption if it was that easy..?

I just did an out of State off roster PPT. We were both present.
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Not an FFL, but if you ship it is not considered a PPT, and must comply with the roster, or the buyer is roster exempt.

To be a true PPT, both parties must be present for the transaction.

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Old 12-30-2012, 7:42 PM
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What Ron-Solo said.
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I don't think there would be much call for the single shot exemption if it was that easy..?

I just did an out of State off roster PPT. We were both present.
Uuuuh, what?

If you live in CA, and you do not have an FFL, 'commercial' or 'collector', you cannot legally go out of state and buy a handgun FTF; you CAN buy and have it shipped to a CA FFL, but it would have to be on the Roster unless you yourself are exempt.

Similarly, someone who lives out of state cannot come to CA and sell an off-Roster handgun to an unlicensed CA resident, unless the CA resident is exempt. CA PPT is for 2 parties with CA ID; without CA ID for both the sale is an interstate transfer, and that is not exempt from the Roster.

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You can always post the firearms for sale here on the forums. You may find a local buyer or an LEO buyer in which case you can ship it to their FFL
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Uuuuh, what?

If you live in CA, and you do not have an FFL, 'commercial' or 'collector', you cannot legally go out of state and buy a handgun FTF; you CAN buy and have it shipped to a CA FFL, but it would have to be on the Roster unless you yourself are exempt.

Similarly, someone who lives out of state cannot come to CA and sell an off-Roster handgun to an unlicensed CA resident, unless the CA resident is exempt. CA PPT is for 2 parties with CA ID; without CA ID for both the sale is an interstate transfer, and that is not exempt from the Roster.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=503873
Sorry I was not more clear, or misleading.
The pistol was brought to me here, We were both present here in Ca at an FFL. To do the Transfer, maybe the important part was that it was also infrafamily ,I assumed private party interstate transfers were the same, since I was required to use an FFL. :/
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Intrafamilial transfer is exempt from the certified list, but it is a bit different than a PPT and it has to be parent/child/grandparent/grandchild.

As said, a PPT is a CA term and is between CA residents who both go to the same FFL, although it does not have to be at the same time.
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