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Old 12-27-2012, 7:30 PM
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Default Cheap fire starting option.

Not tactical or cool but they work. $30 for a pack of 50.


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Yep, and most head shops have a lanyard that the lighter fits into and hangs around your neck.

Watch Wally World for cheaper prices sometimes.
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Road flares guys. Every cop knows they will light anytime, anywhere.
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Road flares guys. Every cop knows they will light anytime, anywhere.
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Is that a road flare in your pocket or are ya happy to see me?
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Lint is great kindling and sparks up very easily.
I keep some in my camping gear box that's with me every time I go camping.
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A smudge of vaseline on a cottonball. A lifetime supply of each for $2 at your local .99 Store.
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Cotton makeup pads work well as kindling as well. You can even throw some vaseline on them so they burn longer. Hand gel with alcohol in it is fantastic to start a fire as well.
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Not tactical or cool but they work. $30 for a pack of 50.


Exactly. Every BOB or survival kit should have a few in addition to a fire starter/striker. Lighters could break/leak/dryout so it's good to have a striker as a back up.
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How long is the shelf life on those bics?
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That's no cheap. Learning how to start a fire with what you find in nature is cheaper and a hell of a lot more practical for a real world situation. I do carry a CC sized magnifier in my wallet but, I can start a fire with flint and steel or a hand drill.
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flint and striker for sure, i keep one in the truck at all times
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flint and striker for sure, i keep one in the truck at all times
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I read once about paraffin wax with dryer lint impregnated in it makes a somewhat cheap, portable fire starter... Seemed to work pretty good for me.. the lint acts like several "wicks" when you light it.
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Not tactical or cool but they work. $30 for a pack of 50.


smoker here, so i always have at least one. fire the hard way is also a priceless tool
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I use a 9v batt and steel wool works fine for me
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That's the biggest problem with the no smoking movement. I know I'm gonna end sometime some where and need to start a fire and no one will have matches. Ever try to start a fire from a car lighter. I think I'm gonna through some lighters in my car tonight,
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That's the biggest problem with the no smoking movement. I know I'm gonna end sometime some where and need to start a fire and no one will have matches. Ever try to start a fire from a car lighter. I think I'm gonna through some lighters in my car tonight,

Boxes and boxes of "Strike Anywhere" matches are super cheap and if store in their wrapped and sealed container in a safe place, will last a decade.
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Lint is great kindling and sparks up very easily.
I keep some in my camping gear box that's with me every time I go camping.
Just make sure the lint you collect from the dryer is from cotton and not the polyester/nylon clothing.
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The Bic lighters are much better than the "no name" knockoffs. Bics have much less tendency to leak when stored for long periods. Worth the extra dollar, IMHO.

I use the Rutland "Fire Starter Squares" from TSC for lighting my pellet stove. Basically paraffin-impregnated cardboard. Very cheap and easier to store than bags of lint. I have a few boxes of them vacuum sealed in my BOBs and vehicles. Strike-anywhere matches, too.

Don't forget a magnifying glass/sun as a fire starter, too. Somewhere, I have a credit card-size Fresnel lens. I wish I could find it.

Road flares are getting hard to find around here. TSC has them, but I have so far been unwilling to cough up $4 for each.
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How long is the shelf life on those bics?
While rebuilding my front porch several years ago, I found a Bic lighter that had been under there for at least 15 years. It lit on the second flick. Good enough for me.
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I read once about paraffin wax with dryer lint impregnated in it makes a somewhat cheap, portable fire starter... Seemed to work pretty good for me.. the lint acts like several "wicks" when you light it.
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Pack dryer lint (cotton not polyester/nylon) into cardboard egg carton trays (don't use styrofoam trays duh). Pour melted wax into lint filled trays. Cut trays to individual pieces.
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Here is something to check out, I've made these for years and have used them backpacking and in camp.

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Strike anywhere matches 'bout a $1.95 a box. 250 matches per box.
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I prefer an adjustable disposable light. Pop the head off, crank it up, and you have a huge flame if you need it. Very useful in lighting a fire IMHO

The cotton and petroleum jelly works great. Parafin coated strike anywheres.

And my favorite I learned in boys scouts, steel wool and a 9vlt or 12vlt battery. Touch the steel wool to the terminals, and it burns for a while.
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Ive used my jumper cables + my cars battery to light a cigarette before lol
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I like to use a couple of gun cleaning patchs when I go camping.
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My oldest Bic lighter is 19 years old and still works. It just doesn't get used often... I lose it and find it some years later, light a smoke and immediately and deliberately lose it again. Shelf life is infinite as near as I can tell. Anyone ever tried to start an emergency fire without a Bic knows you want the Bic. Avoid crickett.
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this guy use vaseline & cotton

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this guy use vaseline & cotton

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how about the lint I store in my belly button- never leave home without it
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I have fun using Fritos for kindling. Well, any greasy corn chip will probably work, but I have only used Fritos. And yes, they really work! And you can eat your kindling!! Well, it's a multi-tasker at least! I always have a bag in the car because it serves as a snack or kindling and will keep pretty much forever in a ziplock! Give it a try!
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Not flint, ferrocerium
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flint and striker for sure, i keep one in the truck at all times
+ char cloth.
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+ char cloth.
Someone really knows what he/she is talking about! Sometimes, I use char rope instead but, 100% cotton rope isn't always easy to find.
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I have used dryer lint and cotton balls with vaseline. Both work very well. Get a zip lock bag and leave it by the dryer. after 6 months you should have a good supply... or just go to a local laundry mat with a zip lock bag and stock up there.
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I use a small ziptie and tighten it up under the button to keep it from getting pressed and releasing the gas while they are in my bag. So far it's worked for years without coming off (I have a few in various bags).

I also keep some gorilla tap wrapped around them. It's surprisingly handy.
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The short version is that anyone who wants to have a reliable fire source with them at all times can do so, and for ridiculously cheap.

I have nearly a dozen ferrocerium rods of various sizes ("Firesteels") stashed in various places, and nearly always have one with me. I find them more reliable than any other technique/tool that is handy enough to carry around everywhere. I particularly like using an old tylenol/aspirin bottle with a small firesteel & striker inside, with cotton balls filling in the empty space. A little pill-sized ziploc contains a bit of vaseline, in case I can't make a feather stick for some reason (A good feather stick and a cotton ball should take you from spark to small cooking fire...).
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The short version is that anyone who wants to have a reliable fire source with them at all times can do so, and for ridiculously cheap.

I have nearly a dozen ferrocerium rods of various sizes ("Firesteels") stashed in various places, and nearly always have one with me. I find them more reliable than any other technique/tool that is handy enough to carry around everywhere. I particularly like using an old tylenol/aspirin bottle with a small firesteel & striker inside, with cotton balls filling in the empty space. A little pill-sized ziploc contains a bit of vaseline, in case I can't make a feather stick for some reason (A good feather stick and a cotton ball should take you from spark to small cooking fire...).
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The short version is that anyone who wants to have a reliable fire source with them at all times can do so, and for ridiculously cheap.

I have nearly a dozen ferrocerium rods of various sizes ("Firesteels") stashed in various places, and nearly always have one with me. I find them more reliable than any other technique/tool that is handy enough to carry around everywhere. I particularly like using an old tylenol/aspirin bottle with a small firesteel & striker inside, with cotton balls filling in the empty space. A little pill-sized ziploc contains a bit of vaseline, in case I can't make a feather stick for some reason (A good feather stick and a cotton ball should take you from spark to small cooking fire...).
yup.

Don't forget the knowledge to make a bow drill or bamboo firestarter.

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