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Nice timing Dimitri!

I'll be the first to ask... Price & availability?
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I agree D. Put me on the list👍
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What a work of art! And yeah how much?
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You are an evil genius! That reticle looks like it will be amazing. What loads is it calibrated for?

And...pricing, availability and where to sign up for a preorder or email notification?
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All the loads will be disclosed soon.
175 SMK @ 2650 is whats its based on but M80 168SMK 77SMK 75hndy all line up. The .223 is good out to about 800 yards.

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This is a scope only pic and not attached to a weapon. I ll get more pics today.

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Shot this today prone rapid fire
800 yards 175SMK using BDC!

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Whould this scope work as well on a Remington 700 as It would on a AR10?
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Whould this scope work as well on a Remington 700 as It would on a AR10?
It was designed with several rifles in mind with rem700 as a top priority. Ill be posting ballistic info today.

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I have a historic dislike for BDC reticles... but you guys do have thoughtful reticle designs... I can appreciate that. That's a lot more reticle than what I can find in my Trijicon ACOG or other 1k+ scopes.

With that said, it would be really nice if you guys had some higher end optics which complete with the rest of the mid to high end market and not just entertain the budget crowd.

There are some that wont sacrifice a certain standard of optic regardless of how nice or well though out a reticle is.

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I have a historic dislike for BDC reticles... but you guys do have thoughtful reticle designs... I can appreciate that. That's a lot more reticle than what I can find in my Trijicon ACOG or other 1k+ scopes.

With that said, it would be really nice if you guys had some higher end optics which complete with the rest of the mid to high end market and not just entertain the budget crowd.

There are some that wont sacrifice a certain standard of optic regardless of how nice or well though out a reticle is.

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Thanks you Exteme X!

We are looking at higher end models I am testing a few that I can't talk about just yet.I hope to see my work in military hands at some point. The ACSS system is a huge advantage in military/LE applications. The reticles are sim tested and only the best of the best is chosen for the task at hand. The BDC or ACSS portion is meant for on the fly shots I am hitting to 1000 and back, an anticant device goes a long way when it comes to BDC .The HUD is basically a data book laser etched in the reticle and the next gen of reticle design. There are no mechanical errors the laser is very precise! Another great thing is you still have mil/mil turrets with the mil system seamlessly incorporated. As far as the quality of the 4-14 well it a proven durable optic and why it was chosen.

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Thanks you Exteme X!

We are looking at higher end models I am testing a few that I can't talk about just yet.I hope to see my work in military hands at some point. The ACSS system is a huge advantage in military/LE applications. The reticles are sim tested and only the best of the best is chosen for the task at hand. The BDC or ACSS portion is meant for on the fly shots I am hitting to 1000 and back, an anticant device goes a long way when it comes to BDC .The HUD is basically a data book laser edged in the reticle and the next gen of reticle design. There are no mechanical errors the laser is very precise! Another great thing is you still have mil/mil turrets with the mil system seamlessly incorporated. As far as the quality of the 4-14 well it a proven durable optic and why it was chosen.

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The only problem with this is it seems to go against the BDC design... The second you start dialing in correction it throws off calibration for the rest of the system.

On the flip side, if someone wanted to take some fundamentals and apply it to dialing in correction, one has to work with a BDC reticle which is graduated in non-standard MOA increments (0, 4.04 MOA, 7.07 MOA, 10.25 MOA, 14.39 MOA)…. on top of MIL turrets.

That's under the assumption the optic can track true… not just making a reticle that measures true.

Personally I rather see a tamper proof design or capped turrets in a BDC scope.

It’s not that it can’t be done; it’s just a more complicated system if someone wants to use it vs a traditional scope with matching reticle/turrets. Just something to keep in mind, I still think it’s a good scope/design for someone looking specifically for a BDC scope, but I don’t think it really appeals to people who like to dial. Just an opinion/observation….
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The only problem with this is it seems to go against the BDC design... The second you start dialing in correction it throws off calibration for the rest of the system.

On the flip side, if someone wanted to take some fundamentals and apply it to dialing in correction, one has to work with a BDC reticle which is graduated in non-standard MOA increments (0, 4.04 MOA, 7.07 MOA, 10.25 MOA, 14.39 MOA)Ö. on top of MIL turrets.

That's under the assumption the optic can track trueÖ not just making a reticle that measures true.

Personally I rather see a tamper proof design or capped turrets in a BDC scope.

Itís not that it canít be done; itís just a more complicated system if someone wants to use it vs a traditional scope with matching reticle/turrets. Just something to keep in mind, I still think itís a good scope/design for someone looking specifically for a BDC scope, but I donít think it really appeals to people who like to dial. Just an opinion/observationÖ.
I was thinking the same thing. In fact, one of the things I like about their 1-6scope with similiar reticle is that they saved money by using simple capped turrets. Once you have it zero'd, you never have to touch them unless you chage loads or move the scope to another rifle. That one works great on my M&P10. Hits are right on the money exactly as advertised.

My guess is when it comes to the higher magnification scopes, people simply like to see the exposed turrets. Sort of form over function. He'll probably sell more of them with exposed turrets than if he had went with capped ones.
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I was thinking the same thing. In fact, one of the things I like about their 1-6scope with similiar reticle is that they saved money by using simple capped turrets. Once you have it zero'd, you never have to touch them unless you chage loads or move the scope to another rifle. That one works great on my M&P10. Hits are right on the money exactly as advertised.

My guess is when it comes to the higher magnification scopes, people simply like to see the exposed turrets. Sort of form over function. He'll probably sell more of them with exposed turrets than if he had went with capped ones.
I like exposed turrets. I can choose to either use the bdc or dial up.
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I was thinking the same thing. In fact, one of the things I like about their 1-6scope with similiar reticle is that they saved money by using simple capped turrets. Once you have it zero'd, you never have to touch them unless you chage loads or move the scope to another rifle. That one works great on my M&P10. Hits are right on the money exactly as advertised.

My guess is when it comes to the higher magnification scopes, people simply like to see the exposed turrets. Sort of form over function. He'll probably sell more of them with exposed turrets than if he had went with capped ones.
Its a mil/mil system like any other mil scope. You dial exactly and return to zero. If want to use the BDC you can once returning to zero. Having exact DOPE and BDC together allows for both quick and very accurate shots. If you have the time run data and get a complete firing solution.
This provides a huge advantage.

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The only problem with this is it seems to go against the BDC design... The second you start dialing in correction it throws off calibration for the rest of the system.

On the flip side, if someone wanted to take some fundamentals and apply it to dialing in correction, one has to work with a BDC reticle which is graduated in non-standard MOA increments (0, 4.04 MOA, 7.07 MOA, 10.25 MOA, 14.39 MOA)Ö. on top of MIL turrets.

That's under the assumption the optic can track trueÖ not just making a reticle that measures true.

Personally I rather see a tamper proof design or capped turrets in a BDC scope.

Itís not that it canít be done; itís just a more complicated system if someone wants to use it vs a traditional scope with matching reticle/turrets. Just something to keep in mind, I still think itís a good scope/design for someone looking specifically for a BDC scope, but I donít think it really appeals to people who like to dial. Just an opinion/observationÖ.
No it doesn't
Where do you get that from? You can dial for a precise shot and return to zero. This system allows for in the fly BDC shots and complete firing solutions.

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Where do you get that from? You can dial for a precise shot and return to zero. This system allows for in the fly BDC shots and complete firing solutions.

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I got that from the information you posted...

Maybe we are not on the same page here...

My point is, the reticle is more difficult to use for someone coming from a traditional reticle graduated in MIL or MOA, making it increasingly difficult to spot your own shots and dial the appropriate amount of correction which you can deduce from using the reticle for measurement.

This is under the assumption someone is trying to use the scope/reticle in the traditional non-BDC sense.

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I have a historic dislike for BDC reticles... but you guys do have thoughtful reticle designs... I can appreciate that. That's a lot more reticle than what I can find in my Trijicon ACOG or other 1k+ scopes.

With that said, it would be really nice if you guys had some higher end optics which complete with the rest of the mid to high end market and not just entertain the budget crowd.

There are some that wont sacrifice a certain standard of optic regardless of how nice or well though out a reticle is.

Might be worth looking into PA.
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Tagged. This looks like it would work well on a Springfield M1A Loaded.
Yes a M1A spits out military ball exactly at the fps I listed under M80. It was one of the rifles that we were sure to include.

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What barrel length m1a are we talking about?
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