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Old 01-14-2013, 10:30 AM
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So now that talks of the AWB not happening, I sit back and laugh at all the people who overpaid in a panic.. people are such sheep
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I couldn't agree more... I kept saying it'll be 3-4 months... looks more like 3-4 weeks. Its all good though I sold a gsg5 for $500 and mini 30 for $1300... both I only paid half as much for.
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Maybe not nationally. We'll see in CA.
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Maybe not nationally. We'll see in CA.
We've always tried to be the "exception to the rule."
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We've always tried to be the "exception to the rule."
In a bad way usually.

Gad, I signed onto Ruger to have them send emails to my senators. Only 2 were Republican, luckily I know both to be pro-2A. But what a bunch of losers..

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In a bad way usually.

Gad, I signed onto Ruger to have them send emails to my senators. Only 2 were Republican, luckily I know both to be pro-2A. But what a bunch of losers..

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Both your senators are big time Democrat gun grabbers - maybe your lucky to have a couple Republican congressmen. All mine are Dems since the "fair" redistricting.
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In a bad way usually.

Gad, I signed onto Ruger to have them send emails to my senators. Only 2 were Republican, luckily I know both to be pro-2A. But what a bunch of losers..

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If their job is to uphold and defend the Constitution...shouldn't they ALL be 2A defenders? I know...just sayin'.
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ny is doing a ban. ct want single shot only, how many more will happen?
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ny is doing a ban. ct want single shot only, how many more will happen?
I think such limits would only occur at the buyer level.
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Don't count your chickens before they hatch.
EXACTLY! This thing is far from over.
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Still worried about nation-wide ammo restrictions and 10 round mag limits. I was pretty sure an AWB would never pass, but these smaller things have complete chance to do so.
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Still doesn't change the fact that there is a small supply and huge demand...
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Still doesn't change the fact that there is a small supply and huge demand...
Exactly!
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So now that talks of the AWB not happening, I sit back and laugh at all the people who overpaid in a panic.. people are such sheep
Where are you getting this information from?
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With a Republican majority in the house and even Harry Reid in the Senate saying that they're not sure if there is enough support for an AWB ..... it looks like we may not be seeing one.

Right now.

Obama is no amateur when it comes to politics. With lack of support in the House, rumblings in the Seanate and the people voting with their pocketbooks (panic buying and hoarding), the political climate just might not be right for an AWB.

The Dems want to re-take the House and hopefully add to their majority in the Seanate in 2014 so they are very concious of the political climate.

What, IMHO we are going to see via Executive Order is, universal background checks nationwide for every purchase and transfer of any gun. Maybe, excepting antiques and black powder only. Restictions on so called "high capacity magazines" and, some sort of restiction on ammunition, perhaps in the form of a limitation on amounts purchased, banning of interstate sales via the internet or mail order to private individuals or some sort of added tax to increase the price to exhorbitant levels making large quanity purchases impractical for the average person.

Just my $0.02

ETA - watch the "fiscal cliff" issue. If the Dems can paint the Republicans in the worst way - they stand a better chance of accomplishing their congressional goals in '14. One more mass murder like Conneticut or colorado and THEN you have your ban. Make no mistake, the Administration is willing to wait.

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With a Republican majority in the house and even Harry Reid in the Senate saying that they're not sure if there is enough support for an AWB ..... it looks like we may not be seeing one.

Right now.

Obama is no amateur when it comes to politics. With lack of support in the House, rumblings in the Seanate and the people voting with their pocketbooks (panic buying and hoarding), the political climate just might not be right for an AWB.

The Dems want to re-take the House and hopefully add to their majority in the Seanate in 2014 so they are very concious of the political climate.

What, IMHO we are going to see via Executive Order is, universal background checks nationwide for every purchase and transfer of any gun. Maybe, excepting antiques and black powder only. Restictions on so called "high capacity magazines" and, some sort of restiction on ammunition, perhaps in the form of a limitation on amounts purchased, banning of interstate sales via the internet or mail order to private individuals or some sort of added tax to increase the price to exhorbitant levels making large quanity purchases impractical for the average person.

Just my $0.02

ETA - watch the "fiscal cliff" issue. If the Dems can paint the Republicans in the worst way - they stand a better chance of accomplishing their congressional goals in '14. One more mass murder like Conneticut or colorado and THEN you have your ban. Make no mistake, the Administration is willing to wait.
my thoughts exactly! thanks for sharing that.
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What, IMHO we are going to see via Executive Order is, universal background checks nationwide for every purchase and transfer of any gun. Maybe, excepting antiques and black powder only. Restictions on so called "high capacity magazines" and, some sort of restiction on ammunition, perhaps in the form of a limitation on amounts purchased, banning of interstate sales via the internet or mail order to private individuals or some sort of added tax to increase the price to exhorbitant levels making large quanity purchases impractical for the average person.
And bans on importation for guns & ammunition "not for sporting purposes." Which, according to General Secretary Obama and Commissar General Eric H. "Waco" Holder, Jr., will be pretty much everything.

Ordering the BATF and the FBI (NICS) to engage in "work stoppage" is another possibility, in order to create as much Soviet-style red tape as possible, delaying things weeks, months, or even years for transactions.


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ETA - watch the "fiscal cliff" issue. If the Dems can paint the Republicans in the worst way - they stand a better chance of accomplishing their congressional goals in '14. One more mass murder like Conneticut or colorado and THEN you have your ban. Make no mistake, the Administration is willing to wait.
I don't think they'll wait too long.

I imagine this is what will happen: Feinswine's bill will be readied, and then put on standby. Then, another engineered "lone gunman" attack - or two - will be made to occur, and quickly thereafter, the votes in the Senate & House will be scheduled. Even RINOs will vote for it. This is how the USA PATRIOT [sic] Act was rammed through (it was readied for 9/11, and then imposed shortly thereafter).
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Bill would never make it through congress. Not that we shouldn't still fight tooth and nail, but these guys can't even pass bills giving jobs to Veterans.... how do you think they'd pass a bill that is horrendously unpopular?
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.... how do you think they'd pass a bill that is horrendously unpopular?
They passed "Obama Care" didn't they?
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They passed "Obama Care" didn't they?
A Democratic House majority and Senate supermajority did. We have neither of those right now.
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.. how do you think they'd pass a bill that is horrendously unpopular?

Well they passed Obamacare and that was wildly unpopular and everyone said it wouldn't pass. They haven't even made a decision on what they are gonna do. It ain't over till the fat lady sings
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I found it interesting that, in this morning's presidential press conference, what the president said was," people don't need to be worried about the federal government taking ALL their guns away". He also said that he was looking at what would be in his power to do about the gun problem without congressional legislation, what could be done thru executive order. Guess we'll see what happens, but watching the press conference certainly didn't give me any warm fuzzy feelings.:-)
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I found it interesting that, in this morning's presidential press conference, what the president said was," people don't need to be worried about the federal government taking ALL their guns away". He also said that he was looking at what would be in his power to do about the gun problem without congressional legislation, what could be done thru executive order. Guess we'll see what happens, but watching the press conference certainly didn't give me any warm fuzzy feelings.:-)
For a "Constitutional Lawyer," he sure loves to rape it.
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For a "Constitutional Lawyer," he sure loves to rape it.
Note that the US Constitution is very plainly written, with an absence of "here-to-fors", ""here-withins", and other lawyer speak. It was written so that everyone could understand exactly what powers and responsibilities were given to the Federal Government. For my part, whenever I hear someone described as a "constitutional scholar" or some other version of that word, I know immediately that this is a person dedicated to twisting, perverting, and outright falsifying the Constitution for their own personal gain.
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It's the calm before the storm, don't trust what our president said.
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Considering 'that guy' has little regard for the Constitution, I would not rule out an unconstitutional EO of some kind. I just hope the backlash would be more than 'that guy' and the D party can bare.
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I'm new to the calguns community, but I'm so glad I joined. I ended up closing my facebook account. All my friends are lefts... all my coworkers are hippie gun fearing lefts, and where I live at, I'm surrounded by Obama voters living off the government. WTF is going on?!?! So glad to have a brief escape with all the like minded individuals here. Thank you for letting me know that not every one in our country is a pu**y! Why can't they understand that this Obama administration is the exact reason why we need the 2nd amendment. Btw the news reports are that there was no AR used at the Newton shooting... it's too bad the media has free reign to spread any rumors and false information it wants, to the sheep that watch it. These sheep absorb this and start panicking and jumping off cliffs with out even taking one moment to logically deduct if the facts presented them are true or even make sense.


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California has a veto-proof Dem majority known for passing extremist laws.

Not sure how hard I'd start laughing just yet.
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California has a veto-proof Dem majority known for passing extremist laws.

Not sure how hard I'd start laughing just yet.
My biggest fear as well.
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With the current state of the economy and the size of the industry compounded with the risk of increasing unemployment - this is not likely to happen this time around. I'm sure the firearms industry has made it a point to call this out to VP Biden in his conferences. Look at how many small manufacturers make up this industry - a ban would put most out of business.

The debt crisis and the "fiscal cliff" are much larger issues on the President's table.

Still, I'm lucky to have stored up a ton of stuff from years ago so I'm in no hurry.
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There are some impressionable people on this site.

Now is not the time to be relieved.
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As some have said, don't count your chickens yet. My predictions for this round:

1) National DROS.
2) Mag capacity restrictions.
3) New import laws, whether a restriction or a hefty tax.

As previously stated, they may try to restrict by feature depending on the 2014 mid-terms and how many seats they can take.
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"California has a veto-proof Dem majority known for passing extremist laws".

"Not sure how hard I'd start laughing just yet".

"Don't count your chickens before they hatch".

"Now is not the time to be relieved".

It's the calm before the storm, don't trust what our president said.

We can not let up, keep the pressure on!!!
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"California has a veto-proof Dem majority known for passing extremist laws".

"Not sure how hard I'd start laughing just yet".

"Don't count your chickens before they hatch".

"Now is not the time to be relieved".

It's the calm before the storm, don't trust what our president said.

We can not let up, keep the pressure on!!!
+1, the OP did not cite the source, so everyone be vigilant and keep the pressure on to keep our right to bear arms.
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Welcome aboard PM123. You will find a bunch of intelligent, law abiding, good folks on this web site.
I myself don't know how Obama ever got elected, nobody I know voted for him.
I am not convinced the AWB is over and especially here in CA.
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OP is a child that knows not what he speaks of. Look at your neighbors, co-workers, the media, academia and Hollywood. Forces are building against us not for us. Many gun owners are turning against us. I was listening to a conservative radio show today and even some gun owners were supporting "some gun control".

This is not my fahters U.S.A.
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