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Old 12-31-2012, 7:06 AM
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So in January 2014 long guns will need to be registered. So are we going to have a year of panic buying of shotguns and rifles? Slowly but surely our right are being taken away. If we don't find a way to fight this, we will end up like Australia.

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every gun ive bought was registered. I dont get what your talking about.. do you mean there will be more forms to fill out?? can you elaborate on what your saying?
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every gun ive bought was registered. I dont get what your talking about.. do you mean there will be more forms to fill out?? can you elaborate on what your saying?
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Old 12-31-2012, 9:31 AM
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You registered every long gun you bought 1911Operator? Do you realize that when you DROS a long gun at a shop, you aren't registering it? Long guns do not require registration in California at this time. Starting in 2014 you will have to register long guns bought in 2014 and later.
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Old 12-31-2012, 9:32 AM
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Edit: as in, at the moment, CA supposedly does not attach long guns to your name in a system.
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I don't think the DROS registers your long gun with serial number and what not. I believe the dealers just put down how many long guns you can take out after the DROS but they don't register it .Just a background check.

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serial number stays on the dealer form but is not transmitted during DROS process I believe.
However name and s/n are kept on FFL book for 20 years I think.
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Right now, long guns purchased do not stay on record with anyone. From what I understand, there will be a system put in place to keep registration on file with DOJ. http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/...ng-open-carry/
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H2H is correct - serial#s are not needed for DROS. These don't go to the state. BUT California does have a form for voluntary registration of any firearm - to protect you from "theft" - they just fail to mention it doesn't protect you from theft on the government's part.
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H2H is correct - serial#s are not needed for DROS. These don't go to the state. BUT California does have a form for voluntary registration of any firearm - to protect you from "theft" - they just fail to mention it doesn't protect you from theft on the government's part.
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I dunno if anyone else is dong it but Im picking up everything I can before 2014. I refuse to register anything.
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I dunno if anyone else is dong it but Im picking up everything I can before 2014. I refuse to register anything.
What he said ^

I predict a huge surge in build parties as well.
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Once everyone realizes that this law will go into effect in 2014 there will be a rush to buy all manners of long guns/shotguns. These will be the same people that are looking at the $400 AR lowers wishing they had bought one a month ago.
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I predict another panic buy for CA owners end of 2013.
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I predict another panic buy for CA owners end of 2013.


+1...................long guns....
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I've been calling around and pretty much all my local turners are sold out of mossbergs, mavericks, and remington shotguns....
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I've been calling around and pretty much all my local turners are sold out of mossbergs, mavericks, and remington shotguns....
Buy a Benelli? I got my shotgun, so I'm not worried...
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Buy a Benelli? I got my shotgun, so I'm not worried...
My dream gun is a benelli M4! However they are expensive! I'm gonna pick up a maverick 88 from a cal gunner on Monday... Can't wait I have heard great things about the maverick! I havnt been able to find them anywhere recently.
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Idk every time I've mentioned it most people haven't seemed to care. We'll see once crunch time gets here.
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Benelli makes great shotguns!
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are handguns registered in CA? i just looked at my DROS and saw that the handgun i bought from a FFL dealer last year has the serial # the form.

so does that mean my gun is in the database?
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are handguns registered in CA? i just looked at my DROS and saw that the handgun i bought from a FFL dealer last year has the serial # the form.

so does that mean my gun is in the database?
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Yes dragonboy221, your gun is in the database and linked to your Drivers License or State ID.
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i'm still wanting to pick up a Ruger 10/22 Takedown. was next up, but i stumbled upon a lnib Gen 2 (1992) G17 at my lgs and am now making layaway payments on that. i had actually just stopped in to pick up a few boxes of ammo....
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No tinfoil or conspiracy, but you are all smoking if you think that "gubment" isn't already keeping tabs on your long-gun purchases. They can and do keep track where possible - this includes subpoenas of sales records when needed.

Have you bought a handgun in the past years? Then this is no different. Welcome to California...it won't change any time soon.

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Why are people so concerned about having registered firearms? Unless you plan on using your firearm illegally you have nothing to worry about. The government is never going to come knocking on your door collecting guns. If anything having my guns registered is a pro in case of theft.
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Why are people so concerned about having registered firearms? Unless you plan on using your firearm illegally you have nothing to worry about. The government is never going to come knocking on your door collecting guns. If anything having my guns registered is a pro in case of theft.
LOL!! you sure about that?!
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...If anything having my guns registered is a pro in case of theft.
An easier way is to take photos, record the serial number and keep it in a safe place.
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An easier way is to take photos, record the serial number and keep it in a safe place.

A very very good idea. Right now I have paper copies and have emailed them to myself.
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Just make sure you have a external harddrive {back up} if your computer "crashes" and you lose all that info you are storing.
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Just make sure you have a external harddrive {back up} if your computer "crashes" and you lose all that info you are storing.
People always forget this one, until it's too late.

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Make sure backup drive it is unplugged, and maybe in an ammo can (if you are worried about EMPs of any sort)...
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Why are people so concerned about having registered firearms? Unless you plan on using your firearm illegally you have nothing to worry about. The government is never going to come knocking on your door collecting guns. If anything having my guns registered is a pro in case of theft.
You think you are getting your guns back after a theft because they're registered? LOL!!! Keep your own list of #SNs, give it to the police if they're stolen. You still won't get them back if they're found. They go in the pile with the gun buy-backs.

The ONLY reason for registration is to have a nice list to collect them when they decide that the kind of gun you have is no longer suitable for you. As has pointed out earlier, that's being proposed in Illinois. Suppose 30 mags were serialized and registered. Given the upcoming push to ban them, don't you think they'll come and get them. It's not paranoia when bills like this are being proposed.

I especially don't like "if you're not doing anything wrong, why worry" responses. Would it appropriate for the cops to just drop by your house and do a safety check? No telling what's going at your house. Could be anything in there.
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You think you are getting your guns back after a theft because they're registered? LOL!!! Keep your own list of #SNs, give it to the police if they're stolen. You still won't get them back if they're found. They go in the pile with the gun buy-backs.
Over the years a number of Calgunners have posted that they received calls form the PD informing them that their stolen guns were recovered and instructions for taking possession of them.
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Over the years a number of Calgunners have posted that they received calls form the PD informing them that their stolen guns were recovered and instructions for taking possession of them.
Dont clutter OMG threads with fact.
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Why are people so concerned about having registered firearms? Unless you plan on using your firearm illegally you have nothing to worry about. The government is never going to come knocking on your door collecting guns. If anything having my guns registered is a pro in case of theft.
You obviously have not kept up with what Ms. Feinstein wants to do!
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Why are people so concerned about having registered firearms? Unless you plan on using your firearm illegally you have nothing to worry about. The government is never going to come knocking on your door collecting guns. If anything having my guns registered is a pro in case of theft.
You forgot about CA's SKS debacle.

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I have a friend who is DOJ. According to them, right now, the data on long guns is not retained. Once background is done the data drops off the system and there is not a way to catalogue it. This is what will be changing. DOJ is working on a system to keep all long gun info like they do with handguns.

Honestly, this doesn't bother me (to date). I am a law abiding citizen who happens to shoot a few different types of guns for recreation. Someday if they ever did a rifle roundup, I would prefer they didn't know, but what are you going to do except buy now for future worries. That really was my question. I wondered if this new law might cause another panic buy of shotguns and shells in the near future.
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