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Old 12-19-2012, 9:05 AM
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Default 2013 CA SB 47 - Yee, Assault weapons ** VERY LIMITED DISCUSSION!**

New-style legislative link - http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...=201320140SB47

OLD-style legislative link http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/po...e=B&author=yee

as introduced:
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BILL NUMBER: SB 47 INTRODUCED
BILL TEXT


INTRODUCED BY Senator Yee

DECEMBER 18, 2012

An act relating to assault weapons.


LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST


SB 47, as introduced, Yee. Assault weapons.
Existing law finds and declares that the proliferation and use of
assault weapons poses a threat to the health, safety, and security of
Californians. Existing law generally prohibits the possession or
transfer of assault weapons, except for the sale, purchase,
importation, or possession of assault weapons by specified
individuals, including law enforcement officers.
Under existing law, a person who lawfully possessed an assault
weapon before the assault weapon was a prohibited firearm is
authorized to retain possession of the assault weapon if the person
registered the assault weapon with the Department of Justice.
This bill would state the intent of the Legislature to enact
legislation relating to assault weapons.
Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: no.
State-mandated local program: no.


THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

SECTION 1. It is the intent of the Legislature to enact
legislation relating to assault weapons.


Note: this thread is for discussing the PROGRESS, not the content.

See also the Guide to reading bills and How a bill becomes law.
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Sticky, for today, so the number of threads is lower ...
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So basically this is a placeholder for the bill to be introduced while specific language is being developed correct?
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So basically this is a placeholder for the bill to be introduced while specific language is being developed correct?
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I was sent an e-mail w/ a potential invite to a FTF brunch w/ Sen. Elizabeth Warren. Might be an opportunity for a ranking CalGunner to get the scoop on where all the AW ban talk is really likely to head, or an opp. to press CGN agenda. I don't know how to put a link to an e-mail from my personal acc't. If you would like, I will copy and paste the e-mail. Just let me know if there is interest.
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profbri, I think thats a great idea, there are plenty of calgunners on here that can lay out the facts and fight for our rights! At this point, we need all the help we can get to ensure we keep our rights and freedoms. This is only the beginning!
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What does "12/19/12 From printer. May be acted upon on or after January 18." mean when you click on "History" of the bill?
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What does "12/19/12 From printer. May be acted upon on or after January 18." mean when you click on "History" of the bill?
It means that the legislature is following its rules.

Cannot consider a bill until it has been 'in print' for 30 days. No votes, no formal amendments, no hearings.
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I noticed right now is only the limited text, not the amendment. Doesn't the full text need to be accessible for 30 days?
I believe the full text is supposed to be available today.
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Bill text has disappeared, looks like status change to

01/10/13 Referred to Com. on RLS.
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Bill text has disappeared, looks like status change to

01/10/13 Referred to Com. on RLS.
I'm pretty sure that "Com. on RLS" is the Rules Committee, in this case the Senate Rules Committee since it is a senate bill:

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Rules-(5)-Steinberg (Chair), Fuller (Vice Chair), Emmerson, Lara and Jackson. Secretary of the Senate: Greg Schmidt. Assistant: Jane Brown. Phone: (916)651-4120. Room 400.
I don't understand why they pull the text when this happens.
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Bill text has disappeared, looks like status change to

01/10/13 Referred to Com. on RLS.
Bill text appears to be the same now as in the OP.
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Thats some rather interesting language...
We shall see.
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There should be a directive requiring all laws to provide a test & measure showing the problem, relative problems, and comparison of relativity to see if it is in fact a serious problem. After the problem and causes are defined creating a law which only impacts such problem. Any effects outside the problem would create an injunction until such law passes through the process again.
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Am I confused? SB47 is the topic here, but what's this? http://stopsb249.org
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Am I confused? SB47 is the topic here, but what's this? http://stopsb249.org
SB 47 Is this year's version of SB 249 from last year.
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Basically a back up plan if for CA if the federal ban does not go through.
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Language has been submitted for SB 47

http://sd08.senate.ca.gov/news/2013-...button-loophol
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Language has been submitted for SB 47

http://sd08.senate.ca.gov/news/2013-...button-loophol
Hasn't hit the official site yet, but probably we can take this as good.
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(b) For purposes of this section, “fixed magazine” means an ammunition feeding device contained in, or permanently attached to, a firearm in such a manner that the device cannot be removed without disassembly of the firearm action.
but this part will be fun - new registration period!
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(c) Any person who, between January 1, 2001 and January 1, 2014, lawfully possessed an assault weapon that does not have a fixed magazine, as defined in section 30515 and including those weapons with an ammunition feeding device that can be removed readily from the firearm with the use of a tool, shall register the firearm by July 1, 2014, with the department pursuant to those procedures that the department may establish.
Even more interesting is the as-yet-unsubmitted SB 108, (This .PDF doesn't highlight the changes to PC, so hard to see exactly what they are without side-by-side examination.)
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CHAPTER 4. Storage of firearms within residences.
25235. (a) No person 18 years of age or older who is the owner, or leaseholder, or renter, or other legal occupant of a residence while outside of that residence shall keep a firearm he or she owns or has legal possession of in that residence unless that firearm is stored in one of the following ways:
(1) The firearm is within a locked container.
(2) The firearm is disabled by a firearm safety device.
(3) The firearm is within a locked gun safe.
(4) The firearm is within a locked trunk.
(5) The firearm is locked with a locking device, as defined in Section 16860, which has rendered the firearm inoperable.
(b) A violation of this section is punishable as follows:
(1) A first violation not involving a handgun as an infraction punishable by a fine not to exceed one hundred dollars ($100).
(2) For a second violation involving any firearm or a first violation involving a handgun, as an infraction, punishable by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000).
(3) For a third or subsequent violation, guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding six months, or by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that fine and imprisonment.
(c) The provisions of this section are cumulative, and shall not be construed as restricting the application of any other law. However, an act or omission punishable in different ways by different provisions of law shall not be punished under more than one provision.
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And a petition for CA voters to sign is now circulating

https://act.credoaction.com/campaign...&r=6994802

Do we have a counter petition? I know we all signed one before, but what else can we do to get our voices heard.
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And the link that had the bill's langauge is now broken - joy.
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Ummm is it wrong part of me wants to see sb47 pass now? I don't think he understands what the new text does.

(I'm still against of course)
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Ummm is it wrong part of me wants to see sb47 pass now? I don't think he understands what the new text does.

(I'm still against of course)
Definitely still against
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Bill re-referred to Committee on Public Safety yesterday (02/07/13). Guess its time to start contacting committee members...

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Senator Loni Hancock (Chair)
Senator Joel Anderson (Vice Chair)
Senator Marty Block
Senator Kevin de León
Senator Steve Knight
Senator Carol Liu
Senator Darrell Steinberg
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Bill re-referred to Committee on Public Safety yesterday (02/07/13). Guess its time to start contacting committee members...

Me m b e r s
Senator Loni Hancock (Chair)
Senator Joel Anderson (Vice Chair)
Senator Marty Block
Senator Kevin de León
Senator Steve Knight
Senator Carol Liu
Senator Darrell Steinberg
Kevin de Leon will stop it for sure.....
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so SB47 has passed?
I don't belive so
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Greetings fellow gun lovers.

Like many of you, I too am looking for ways to scoff the law and rules that keep society safe from mass murderers by keeping my military-style rapid fire assault rifles with high capacity clips. It's my God-given right to have 100s of rounds of cop-killer ammo for hunting.

Based on the way the propossed legistlation is written, what loopholes might there be that will allow me to keep my guns so that me and my family will be safe from gangs and rapists?

Don't worry about me being a gun grabber. As you can see from my username, I am totally not. Plus Senator Yee is a stupid communist.

Have a nice day.

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Ummm is it wrong part of me wants to see sb47 pass now? I don't think he understands what the new text does.

(I'm still against of course)
Of course...

Sen. Yee - that there is a briar patch. Please-o-please, whatever you do, DON'T toss me in there.

oh no. Pleeeeeaaaase don't.... [/roger rabbit voice]
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Smile Leland Yee blocked my freedom of speech today

Leland Yee decided to block me from his facebook page. No, I didn't cuss him out (he leaves stuff like that up) nor did I threaten him. I find it awkward that he holds a public office, a public facebook page, but chooses to deny my freedom of speech on his page...

I wrote:

- he is trying to gain momentum from Cuomo and the NY Ban. I urge you to write to your representatives here, in California

- how many bullet buttoned AR 15's killed people in California last year?

- Why don't you go after handguns?? Have 10 rds, used more in crimes than rifles?

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Who can I PM for clarification of the language?
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Leland Yee decided to block me from his facebook page. No, I didn't cuss him out (he leaves stuff like that up) nor did I threaten him. I find it awkward that he holds a public office, a public facebook page, but chooses to deny my freedom of speech on his page...

I wrote:

- he is trying to gain momentum from Cuomo and the NY Ban. I urge you to write to your representatives here, in California

- how many bullet buttoned AR 15's killed people in California last year?

- Why don't you go after handguns?? Have 10 rds, used more in crimes than rifles?
Funny, I got bloacked as well but was not as nice as you. I wrote someting along the lines of:

Killing an apex predator of the ocean for its fins for soup only to throw the body back into the water to die a horrible death = good. My second ammendment god given rights = bad.
i don't follow your logic Lelan Yee.
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haha, hilarious. He's quite restrictive.
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http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...tsClient.xhtmlGo to the page from the link posted by the OP, and hit comment to author, and let melt down this guys email. Flood them.

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I know this is for SB47 but as far as SB108 is concerned, didn't DC v Heller already set the precedent that DC's laws requiring storage in safes or requiring trigger locks in the home are unconstitutional?

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I know this is for SB47 but as far as SB108 is concerned, didn't DC v Heller already set the precedent that DC's laws requiring storage in safes or requiring trigger locks in the home are unconstitutional?

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I know this is for SB47 but as far as SB108 is concerned, didn't DC v Heller already set the precedent that DC's laws requiring storage in safes or requiring trigger locks in the home are unconstitutional?

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Looks like sb108 only applies when you are not home. Not sure how Heller applies. I believe DC's storage law applied also when you were home, which prevented having a firearm available for self defense.

This looks like for anyone who is already responsible with their firearm storage, there will be no effect. I hate to see more restrictions, but you should already be locking up your firearms when you're not at home anyway.
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