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Old 01-23-2009, 7:00 PM
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This is a question about your actual BOB or Kit, that you have already packed, in your house/car, for Natural Disasters/SHTF situations. Please keep the thread on topic to the best of your ability -don't tell me what you'd pack inside of your M1 Abrams Tank, or about your 400 acre, land-mine-protected farm deep in the forests of Northern Saskatoon - just what you have in your bag/kit. I'm trying to get good ideas to pack mine.

Ok, I'll start -

Stage 1 BOB (for 3 days or so)

1- Affordable Backpack from Wallyworld (I think it was $25) But it's got a lot of features and a good amount of capacity. (Yeah I have much better ones, but this one wont be used often, so I figure why waste an expensive one to sit on a shelf).
2- Tomahawk (SOG Fusion) - About $35 or something - light, compact, useful for multiple applications, ie - splitting wood, breaking windows, doors, digging, hacking zombies, etc.
3- Two Space Bags - for me and wifey
4- 6 MRE's
5- hat, windbreaker, hooded sweatshirt, extra socks and undies
6- hand warmers (chemical) 8
7- g22 w/3 hi-cap mags, double mag holder, and holster (g22 has crimson trace laser as well as light)(everything is loaded)
8- s&w j-frame snubbie - .38cal hideaway/backup in iwb holster gun and 50 extra +p rounds
9- First Aid Kit with all kinds of stuff (too long to list, maybe that's another thread)
10- Water Filtration System (ordered)
11- I used a small tackle box type clear plastic covered box, with separators in it to pack the following - matches, lighter, swiss army knife, fishing supplies, hooks, weights, salmon eggs, power bait, fire starter, extra advil, cough drops, multi-tool, batteries and flashlights (2)
12- 4 AR mags loaded with 6.8 ammo and a 3 mag pouch/molle attachment
13- TP - 1 roll in Ziplock bag
14- Hydration Bladders x2
15- Fixed blade knife - Browning 4.5" blade
16- Long Gun -AR - LMT MRP 6.8 with NF scope 2.5x10 (I can shoot it well to 600 yards) (depending on the scenario, I may or may not be inclined to take this scary, high profile rifle. I may decide to take something else, my 12ga FN SLP would be my second choice - which is why I keep an extra sub-kit with multiple types of ammo for that gun as well - birdshot, buckshot and slugs).
All of this weighs around 35 pounds (not including rifle), so if I have to hoof it, i should be ok.
My Kit -




My Wife's and My B.O.B's on top of our Stages 2-3 Kit is seen in the Plastic containers and Cooler, Body Armor and Additional Kit in Box- All of the stuff packaged together and ready to go



Wife's Bag's Contents (not including un-mentionables of course, since they can't be mentioned)



Stage 2 - Additional Kit for a Scarier or Man-Made SHTF situation (short term)
In addition to the above BOB and stored next to it, I have a duffle with my BA vests (2), psgt helmets, boots and more loaded mags and ammo sitting next to it, and a large bottle of water (1/2 water cooler size).


Stage 3 - For Long Term Disaster survival (2 weeks or so)
Both of the above items and then the following
1- Clear Plastic Storage box with folding top- Can be used to carry and store all the items in it as well as hold water if need be
2- more mre's (12)
3- large 2 pound bag of rice
4- canned foods - tuna, fruit, chili, etc - to supplement MREs
5- all weather blankets (2)
6- gas masks (2)
7- plate carriers (2)
8- High quality thick paper napkins (to use in place of towel or TP) 100pack
9- small 2 person tent
10- small camp stove and propane tanks (3)
11- another (full sized)water cooler sized water bottle
12- ammo can with a mix of ammo - for use or trade - pistol, shotgun & rifle
13- Dog food for my mutts
14- (not in box but next to it) Sleeping bags (2)


Thats what i've got so far - what am I missing? What do you have in yours? I've read on different boards what people have, and it seems to vary significantly from state to state depending on the terrain and weather. I live in So Cal - so i'd like to hear from folks here in our area (you Nor Cal guys can chime in as well, I live here now, but I'm from the Bay originally).

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Old 01-23-2009, 7:36 PM
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All that looks good, you might want to add some nylon twine or Paracord and a small tarp to your BOB they comes in handy.
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"You know the Germans always make good stuff" HAHAHAHA
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"You know the Germans always make good stuff" HAHAHAHA
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https://www.shamwow.com/ver4/index.asp

"You know the Germans always make good stuff" HAHAHAHA
how about a slap chop?

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"You know the Germans always make good stuff" HAHAHAHA
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I went hunting into an area that is not a wilderness and doesn't have a wilderness around. The main reason was NOT to test my BOB. That said, it didn't have water (as I said), so no shower and such... Abiding the laws is the current situation, and when "NO LAWS" will be the situation, no camping fees will be paid.

C'mon, you surely can come up with something more constructive... or I'll have to write a report on my 3 days in the Eldorado National Forest - no camping fees paid there, if that's all that matters... but then, this thread is not about such things, mate
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https://www.shamwow.com/ver4/index.asp

"You know the Germans always make good stuff" HAHAHAHA
LOL!!! The best line from an infomercial, hands down...

We keep building our BOB supplies. It's scary how no matter how much you accumulate, you never feel like it's enough!

I'm curious, cause I haven't read all 60 pages of responses to this thread, is it a good idea to have propane on hand, or is it preferable to just have lots of matches and paper/kindling for cooking purposes? We have a small and large camp stove but I'm not sure what is better for when SHTF?
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I'm curious, cause I haven't read all 60 pages of responses to this thread, is it a good idea to have propane on hand, or is it preferable to just have lots of matches and paper/kindling for cooking purposes? We have a small and large camp stove but I'm not sure what is better for when SHTF?
Having both a fire kit to start a fire (we on ZS say have 3 ways to start a fire, matches, lighter, striker and a small tinder set) and a stove can be beneficial. Sometimes you don't want or need to start a fire and a nice, small fuel stove like a MSR is awesome!

Maybe it's rain, snowing, etc. and you can't find dry wood to start a fire. A fuel stove will definitely come in handy to get something warm into your body, even if it's just a little bit of water with some bullion cubes in it for a little boost of energy.

Also, maybe you don't want to give your position away with a cook fire.

Either way, depending on how long you are bugging out for will decide your need for a fuel stove. Buy a cheaper one and take it out and see if it is more useful than starting a large cooking/warmth fire.


I particularly like the MSR Whisper Internationale a lot, as it will burn a lot of different fuels.

http://cascadedesigns.com/MSR/Stoves...ionale/product

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A gun you can shoot, some ammo and your brain. That's all you need.
lol, yeah, you can loot all the other stuff you need when the time comes from wally world, as you are armed, let a few fly to clear out the store, and go shopping, well, except more ammo aS THEY NEVER HAVE IT ANYMORE, EXCPET shotty shells

And, even though I do not smoke, of the SHTF, I would carry a few cartons of smokes with me, as they could be useful in trade for services/food/shelter, as money at that point, well, may be useless or worthless.
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The other day, a person responded to a post in a forum regarding emergency preparedness kits. He said "I don't need a disaster preparedness kit, when the time comes, I will just go to wally world (Wal-Mart) and fire off a couple of rounds, clear out the store and take what I need". I was astonished at his response! The first thing that came to mind was his wife and two daughters. He plans on abandoning his family to go put himself in harms way to steal what he needs instead of being a good man and preparing for a disaster.

I am personally prepared and will stay home to protect my family and live on the food and water that I have set aside in case of an emergency. Anyone who loots for what they need after a disaster occurs will not have a free reign of the city. There are hundreds of thousands of people in the city that most likely have the same mindset as this thief and they will most likely be doing the same, so the chances of survival during looting are not very good, and furthermore, who will be at home to protect his wife and children? What if he does not make it back? Does he expect for his wife to go out and try to loot and leave her daughters behind? What if she doesn't make it either? Are the two little girls supposed to know how to find food and water for themselves? And defend themselves? Someone didn't think this through very well or doesn't care enough to prepare for the future. I find this very disheartening, especially when the average american spends over $500.00 each month for car, health, and home insurance.

Preparedness Supplies only cost about 10 cents a day over 5 years to have food and water set aside for tough times, when they come. Any day there could be an earthquake, fire, severe weather, power outages, and more! How do you choose to care for your family? I hope you choose the affordable path of being prepared.

There have been a few people on this thread that have mentioned their "I'll take what I need from those less armed than me" mentality earlier - and the response has been very much the same as your sentiment - I'm prepared, and have worked to be so - and don't plan on letting anyone take from me what I've worked to put together for myself and my family.
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The other day, a person responded to a post in a forum regarding emergency preparedness kits. He said "I don't need a disaster preparedness kit, when the time comes, I will just go to wally world (Wal-Mart) and fire off a couple of rounds, clear out the store and take what I need". I was astonished at his response!
all the person is really saying is they want to commit suicide, there is going to be plenty of people who during an emergency of this size take or benefit by the lawlessness and dispatch those people they feel are preying on the situation.
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Ever wonder what it looks like? It looks like this:
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Well, you cannot obviously note my sarcasm when I was typing this, lol, thats what I was trying to say to him, that he was just going to go loot, and steal from the unarmed and less fortunate. That is, IMO, poor planning.
Persoanlly, I would do the same, have the supplies on hand, and defend my home and family. I also have 2 alternate locations to "bug out" to, if it is possible to drive to one of them, the other is within a days walk. If not, we hunker down at home if possible, depending on the situation.

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I believe in being prepared for an emergency situation. Staying home and protecting my family is what I would do since I am prepared. Leaving your family unprotected and putting yourself in harms way to go steal your survival items is not a safe decision in my opinion. For just pennies a day, you can have enough survival supplies to get through at least a couple of weeks of a disaster until help arrives.
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What about toilet paper and booze? And cheeseburgers and pepsi?
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I say add as much light weight food as you could. All of us with wifes, girlfiends, and daughters need to also add as much sanitation supplies as possible.

I disagree with all of you who think a gun is all youll need. Because personally I don't wan't to eat a bullet....
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Throw in some playing cards or dice or a small backgammon game. There will be a lot of sitting around.
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Throw in some playing cards or dice or a small backgammon game. There will be a lot of sitting around.
Playing cards will provide limitless entertainment. So much so that you may even be able to trade them for something more immediately useful down the road.

My Level 2/3 bag has (in addition to approximately the above) a bottle of fuel stabilizer, which will be invaluable if the need to store gasoline arises during travel.
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Scanner and/or Ham radio with plenty of batteries and some experience listening/using them would be a good addition to your kit. You may be out roughing it all the while the zombies might have been eradicated and order restored...remember the end of "The Mist?"

My family is large and has varied special needs so I have alot to pack. Assuming we're hoofin' it somewhere (that's always the case, despite reality suggesting to sit tight and shelter in place or migrate to a high school gym or church parking lot tent city), I have the following:

1) Large frame hiking pack with 3 thin wool blankets, some mylar blankets, robust first aid bag inside, hatchet, my zombie chopper in kydex sheath (still making it), 100' black paracord, 100' of nylon rope, small 6x4 tarp, toilet paper, rain jacket for me, freeze dried and mre food for our whole family for maybe a week (even some cans of spam!), a bunch of heavy duty plastic garbage bags of varied sizes (very important to control waste and transport things), Katadyn water filtration unit, 2 scanners, dual band ham radio (lots of batteries for all devices), 2 walkie talkies and their batteries, 1 pair of work gloves, 1 pair of warm gloves..and some other stuff like matches, flint/magnesium fire starter thingy, glove/shoe warmers, varied 6-in-1 survival whistles, lots of good, solid LED based lights ranging from 250 lumens to 6 lumens and batteries for them to last months. I carry this pack.

2) Army Duffle with 6 man tent, some more blankets and clothes and 2 gallons worth of water packets. This is carried by my wife.

3) Medium backpack with 1 gallon worth of water packets, some clothes, bags, MREs and Freeze Dried food. This is carried by my 8 year old daughter.

An additional backpack can be carried by our 5 year old with his toys or other things. 7 Month old baby in baby bjorn carried by mommy or me. Loaded M&P9 and 3 mags concealed in belly band. If it's necessary, a loaded mosin nagant 91/30 and a tac vest with lots of 7.62x54r ammo in it and the bayonet fixed just for intimidation factor. 8 year old can carry the 22 rifle. Be nice to have a couple more handguns to conceal/carry...but just the one for us so far.


Another thing that appears overlooked above...containers for water and or eating..maybe some sporks too! So put two small water bottles on each pack you carry..one to drink from, one to cut in half to use for food or scooping...and easy to clean/wash.
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Scanner and/or Ham radio with plenty of batteries and some experience listening/using them would be a good addition to your kit. You may be out roughing it all the while the zombies might have been eradicated and order restored...remember the end of "The Mist?"

My family is large and has varied special needs so I have alot to pack. Assuming we're hoofin' it somewhere (that's always the case, despite reality suggesting to sit tight and shelter in place or migrate to a high school gym or church parking lot tent city), I have the following:

1) Large frame hiking pack with 3 thin wool blankets, some mylar blankets, robust first aid bag inside, hatchet, my zombie chopper in kydex sheath (still making it), 100' black paracord, 100' of nylon rope, small 6x4 tarp, toilet paper, rain jacket for me, freeze dried and mre food for our whole family for maybe a week (even some cans of spam!), a bunch of heavy duty plastic garbage bags of varied sizes (very important to control waste and transport things), Katadyn water filtration unit, 2 scanners, dual band ham radio (lots of batteries for all devices), 2 walkie talkies and their batteries, 1 pair of work gloves, 1 pair of warm gloves..and some other stuff like matches, flint/magnesium fire starter thingy, glove/shoe warmers, varied 6-in-1 survival whistles, lots of good, solid LED based lights ranging from 250 lumens to 6 lumens and batteries for them to last months. I carry this pack.

2) Army Duffle with 6 man tent, some more blankets and clothes and 2 gallons worth of water packets. This is carried by my wife.

3) Medium backpack with 1 gallon worth of water packets, some clothes, bags, MREs and Freeze Dried food. This is carried by my 8 year old daughter.

An additional backpack can be carried by our 5 year old with his toys or other things. 7 Month old baby in baby bjorn carried by mommy or me. Loaded M&P9 and 3 mags concealed in belly band. If it's necessary, a loaded mosin nagant 91/30 and a tac vest with lots of 7.62x54r ammo in it and the bayonet fixed just for intimidation factor. 8 year old can carry the 22 rifle. Be nice to have a couple more handguns to conceal/carry...but just the one for us so far.


Another thing that appears overlooked above...containers for water and or eating..maybe some sporks too! So put two small water bottles on each pack you carry..one to drink from, one to cut in half to use for food or scooping...and easy to clean/wash.
With all your children you might want to consider some type of 'garden cart' with no flat tires. You've got a good set up but the kids may not go too far... ymmv
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I'm glad I posted this because already there are some good items that I needed to add - thanks guys
Cards, GPS, Fuel Stabilizer, and something to eat out of...somehow I missed that one. They'll all be in the bag tomorrow.
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I mentioned this in another SHTF thread, but road flares are cheap (about $2 at OSH) and have a ton of uses.

Also, you might want to carefully consider what you use to start fire. I ditched the matches/lighter scene for "modern flint and steel" made of magnesium. I've been using the same $8 block (Big 5) for years, and I've made lots of friends who had wet matches or empty lighters.
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Do you and your wife wear glasses or contacts? Make sure you have spares.

I am not sure how bad you plan on things getting but you may want to include potassium iodide pills to help block the absorption of radiation in case of a dirty bomb scenario.

A red wagon will also help anyone out there with kids or lots of equipment. They sell these at every toy store. If the kids get tired you can throw them in there as well. If you get one big enough you could probably throw the wife in there if she is tired or injured.

Large Chalk may also be useful for signaling such as writing SOS on buildings or simply marking certain areas.

Immodium AD or other anti diarrhea product. You don't want to be indisposed due to bad water or whatever when you should be on foot.

Mouth guard for the med kit. Small and useful if you have to do anything painful to someone such as setting a broken bone.

When stocking up on anti-biotics and medications also take into account allergies. You may need to add an epi-pen to the med kit.

If you need to wear a brace for any reason especially a knee brace, include it. You may have to do a lot of walking.

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I'm glad I posted this because already there are some good items that I needed to add - thanks guys
Cards, GPS, Fuel Stabilizer, and something to eat out of...somehow I missed that one. They'll all be in the bag tomorrow.
Anything else?
If you don't mind, keep the original post updated with the suggestions that are in the thread.

That way, this thread can become a good solid reference to building a BoB.
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For a real hot torch, something that has a stand, and can be locked in an on position and heat/burn anything. It's wind proof and holds lots of butane. And for only $2.78 shipped...just get a dozen of them and put them all over the place in your home or fill your BOBs with them. Also, when ordering a dozen of them, if you get one bad one, it's no big deal to toss it!
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1320

And of course you can't go wrong when buying $10 lights that can be insanely brighter than the crap at hardware/home improvement store shelves claiming to be tough and bright. Where else can you get a $12 five mode drop-in giving you as much as 200 lumens or 10 lumens that'll last you many many hours continually..just pick the cheapest "p6" style light and drop in a $12 lamp for excellent reliable and variable lighting.
http://www.dealextreme.com/products.dx/category.999
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My idea of survival is hiding in the mountains/hills from humans... weird maybe, but anyways, here's my list of stuff that I want to buy/want to have in the kit:

backpack
survival handbook
emergency/medical supplies
water purification source
rope
compass
topographical maps
meal supplements/energy bars
cards
sterno?
matches/lighter/flint+steel
sleeping bag
Five Seven with extra magazines and ammunition (to be bought at later date)
knife
My M1A along with extra magazines and ammunition (already owned)
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You might want some ammo for your rifle, which is pretty worthless otherwise.
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One BOB, what is your wife gonna carry?

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-Maps with bug out routes pened in. Keep one set in your car too. GPS units die
-Flashlights - Hand held and head lamp.
-Cash may still have some value.
-Zippo Lighter Fluid
-Baby Wipes
-Canteen with canteen cup. I know it sounds old school but you let others drink from your canteen not your camelbacks. Canteen cups can be used to shave, drink from, eat from and cook with.
-Kindling made from dryer lint and wax.
-Chem lights
-Folding shovel
-Salt and Pepper
-Sunblock
-Sunglasses
-Fuel Cans
-Field survival manuals, better yet go buy a few now, then make your own with the info you need.
-Binos

Take your wife to the range and teach her to shoot. Remember she promised to protect you to.
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One BOB, what is your wife gonna carry?

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-Maps with bug out routes pened in. Keep one set in your car too. GPS units die
-Flashlights - Hand held and head lamp.
-Cash may still have some value.
-Zippo Lighter Fluid
-Baby Wipes
-Canteen with canteen cup. I know it sounds old school but you let others drink from your canteen not your camelbacks. Canteen cups can be used to shave, drink from, eat from and cook with.
-Kindling made from dryer lint and wax.
-Chem lights
-Folding shovel
-Salt and Pepper
-Sunblock
-Sunglasses
-Fuel Cans
-Field survival manuals, better yet go buy a few now, then make your own with the info you need.
-Binos

Take your wife to the range and teach her to shoot. Remember she promised to protect you to.

She goes with me about 40% of the time - last weekend she shot 18 on skeet (I only got 15)(but i was shooting a.28ga). She knows how to run the shotguns and the AR, can shoot a pistol nearly as good as I can. We run little drills from time to time to make sure she stays on her game
...But you're right - she needs to have her own BOB too - I'll have to work on that next.

You had a few items that I'll have to add - thanks for the good input
I can't believe that I missed BABY WIPES - they're like gold!!! I need to get those in there ASAP.
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Take your wife to the range and teach her to shoot. Remember she promised to protect you to.
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-Cash may still have some value.
Not likely, depending on the scenario. At least not paper money. Coin of the realm seems more probable.
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Not likely, depending on the scenario. At least not paper money. Coin of the realm seems more probable.
Depending on the scenario...

Example...

SoCal wildfire of 2004... we were without power for 5 days... local stores opened but no atms, CC machines. Cash and carry.

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Depending on the scenario...

Example...

SoCal wildfire of 2004... we were without power for 5 days... local stores opened but no atms, CC machines. Cash and carry.

Just sayin.
No need for the "just saying." I didn't detect malice, and you make a fair point.
I, personally, would feel better stocking up on, say, Sacagawea dollars, rather than paper money. Even if only for an economic downfall where nothing would be backing the paper, whereas metal is still valuable.

Paper money would, of course still be good for many other disasters, so I suppose that my previous post should have simply said to also have metal money.
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Everyone needs trading materials/goods to acquire what you forgot or need more of -- stock up on small bottles of booze, cartons of cigarettes, condoms and tampons... don't laugh, all of these items will be in high demand.
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1. Become proficient with the gear you carry.
2. Family pics in the wallet for long-term bugout
3. If you have kids, something that will help them pass the time.

and most importantly

4. Have a plan and review it with your family

Otherwise, you're on the right track.
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Here's a picture of the bug-out gear I would carry. While I'm much too lazy to unpack it and take a picture, suffice it to say that everything I need to survive very comfortably for at least three days is in here. Also note the padlock on the "extra ammo" compartment of the L1 BOB...keeps the teammates honest



Some special items I also carry:
-A sewing kit
-extra velcro in strips
-extra webbing in strips

EDIT: This thread is now officially a BOB gear-porn thread.
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