Ok thanks for that info.. Yeah, i was doing some searched and most people feel the way you do about the serpa.. I called Fowlers and they dont carry anything but the Serpas. I didnt think Bass Pro carried the kydex but if they do i will grab that.. I need to grab some extra mags and Bass Pro doesnt have the "OEM" one but a different company, are those ok? Or should I make sure to get the Springfield ones.