Ok ok, I get it, it may not be the ideal scope for me, you guys seem to really dislike the idea of the BDC reticle and the spot on software. I need to do more research and probably take a training class on using a high end scope like extreme listed. Seems pretty complicated so far but I'm willing to learn, probably the best idea so far. Can you guys point me to some good training material. I'm also a front sight member some see a class in my future.