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Old 08-12-2011, 12:08 PM
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Depends on the kid. Some take instruction well and show competency at 8. Some at 12. Then there are some that can't at 21...
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The moment the idea is admitted into society, that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.' and that `Property is surely a right of mankind as real as liberty.'
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