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Old 01-31-2013, 6:10 PM
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rootuser, I can't understand how you managed to get so many thing wrong in the same post.

Originally Posted by rootuser View Post
In California we are lucky in that we have the Initiative process
No. We aren't. The initiative process is a disaster. It allows the tyranny of the majority to DIRECTLY modify the constitution. There isn't a single worse thing in CA's constitution than its implementation of the initiative process.

to get something on the ballot that the voters could vote on directly. As the previous poster mentioned, there are several Assembly Bills, Senate Bills etc that aim to curb gun ownership in several ways. You can fight these as a California resident. You can also get your own Initiative on the ballot and null and void all of them if you would like.
Again, if you are looking to reign in gun control, there is no better way to lose to the tyranny of the majority than by this (broken) process.

Some of these bills may suck horribly, but the Supreme Court has made it clear the states CAN restrict the right to bear arms in reasonable ways.
Wrong. Heller changes everything. We won't know until ANY of these go in front of SCOTUS, and thus far, none have.

In particular HR 1 will pass without issue and is in place in MANY states already.
See above

Some of the others will not pass as they stand now
The D's have a super majority. They can pass anything they want

AJR 5 will pass most likely as is completely constitutional to offer support and "urge" congress to act on something.
JR's mean nothing. Never have.

Our best bet is to defeat these bills before they ever get going.
Not going to happen. See above re: super majority

Trying to sue after the fact is just very rough.
There is NO alternative.

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