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Glocker23 07-08-2013 10:44 PM

Advice on how to hide a gun safe in garage?
 
I recently got a safe that measures 59Hx30Wx27D that I stuck in the corner of a garage. It generally cannot be seen by people passing by but the more ways to obscure it the better.

I've thought about building a cabinet around it but seems like a lot of costs and effort. I looked into room dividers which will do the job for outsiders but I don't want my kid messing with the safe.

I've thought about a zip up portable closet which should work but I can't find one that can cover the depth of 27 inches.

Any advice would be appreciated.

kosherbacon 07-09-2013 12:22 AM

I've thought about building a cabinet as well. You can add more fireproofing that way.

Glocker23 07-09-2013 12:47 AM

Did you end up doing anything?

IntoForever 07-09-2013 12:55 AM

Make it look like a bookshelf filled with "better housekeeping" magazines.:D

Glocker23 07-09-2013 1:01 AM

Or even better, make it a tool shed with everything required to open the safe right next to it!

It is a garage so those magazines may be out of place. :)

tozan 07-09-2013 1:17 AM

Paint it to look like a refrigerator.
I also like the wood grained look mentioned above.

ivanimal 07-09-2013 2:13 AM

Build a Wooden locker around it and put
A hasp and lock on it.

Glocker23 07-09-2013 2:32 AM

Until I have a more permanent solution, I will throw up a 3 panel room divider. Will stop the people passing by outside but not my kid nor his friends.

Anything wrong with the zip up wardrobe idea? I can't find one with enough depth but seems like its really easy and should be something a person wouldn't think twice about if they saw it in your garage?

local_nobody 07-09-2013 3:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glocker23 (Post 11773798)
Anything wrong with the zip up wardrobe idea? I can't find one with enough depth but seems like its really easy and should be something a person wouldn't think twice about if they saw it in your garage?

couple ideas:

if the depth is enough of an issue that it ruins the camouflage of one zip up wardrobe, cut the front and back out of one, and the back out of the front one and do two front to back.

also like the idea of gutting an old fridge and hiding it inside that.

or how about one of those cheapo prefab, put it together yourself cabinets with shelves, leave the back off, and mount to the wall for stability.

Glocker23 07-09-2013 8:21 AM

Thanks. Can you explain the first idea again? - Not following.

It can be a lot of work but I see getting two of them, cutting out the back of one of them. Cutting out the front of the second one, and then sewing them together to create a double depth.

It's also already bolted down so I can't put it inside anything, I have to build something around it.

Cabinet is more work but the most elegant. The challenge will be to find a piece that can cover the depth. :/

daveinwoodland 07-09-2013 9:07 AM

I know someone that just used the original box the safe was shipped in cut off one side and the rest slides over the front of the safe. Just looks like a big storage box since there are no markings on the box what it was except for the cut off piece.

WCSafes 07-09-2013 9:21 AM

I was talking with a customer while typing and daveinwoodland beat me to item number 1
Top thing my customers do, they safe comes in a carboard box, razor knife the back off and keep the top flaps and other 3 side together; easy removable box that has no markings. No pretty but looks like you could be storing an old fridge, point being nobody would think twice driving by and seeing a box.

As many of you had mentioned the nicest way is having over sized cabinets built so the safe not only in concealed but out of sight out of mind.

Alot of people who have went to tankless water heaters fit there safe in the nook as well.

Hope this was not repetitive, let me know if any of you need safe boxes, for the first option I mentioned, I "know a guy."
Best,
Brad
West Coast Safes, Inc

polo.45 07-09-2013 9:33 AM

Make a game room/mencave ....When I bought my house people there used to have a daycare business ... So what I did was ... Turn it in to a game room... It was easy... Don't need a garage I have a shop in the back...

readysetgo 07-09-2013 9:39 AM

Put it behind this! :D :shrug:

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1fc2ff61.jpg

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...ps08b96e18.jpg

Glocker23 07-09-2013 9:50 AM

Wish I still had the original cardboard box. Seems ghetto but that is probably the best idea - security through obscurity.

Another benefit of having a cabinet framed in is I can add in a motion detector or a sensor to trigger if the cabinet door gets opened.

Awesome ideas, really appreciate everyone's time and effort to help me out here.

Sorry that I have nothing cool to protect. Someone is going to need to go through hell just to nab a new frontier lower and a Ruger 10/22. :D

Full Clip 07-09-2013 9:51 AM

Also, DON'T TELL ANYONE YOU HAVE A GUN SAFE IN THE GARAGE!
ANYONE!

WCSafes 07-09-2013 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glocker23 (Post 11775504)
Wish I still had the original cardboard box. Seems ghetto but that is probably the best idea - security through obscurity.

Another benefit of having a cabinet framed in is I can add in a motion detector or a sensor to trigger if the cabinet door gets opened.

Awesome ideas, really appreciate everyone's time and effort to help me out here.

Sorry that I have nothing cool to protect. Someone is going to need to go through hell just to nab a new frontier lower and a Ruger 10/22. :D

Glocker,
My offer from a few posts ago stands, give me the dimensions of your safe and I can almost certainty guarantee I have a box from ones we have installed,just drive here and pick it up.
Best,
Brad
West Coast Safes, Inc

Glocker23 07-09-2013 10:33 AM

Thank you Brad:

It is 59Hx30Wx27D

I'll see if I can schedule a time to get to Ontario and get that from you.

Also, do you have any solutions for a small pistol safe that can be bolted down / anchored to studs?

MisplacedTexan 07-09-2013 10:39 AM

I may be slow sometimes, but is there a problem in just keeping the garage door closed? More convenient of course when working on the house/ mowing yard (whatever) just to keep it open, but really - besides the safe, who wants to advertise all the other toys you might have (or not have) in your garage?

Old4eyes 07-09-2013 10:42 AM

I put an opaque shower curtain around mine. Not the best thing but better than nothing.

WCSafes 07-09-2013 10:47 AM

Glocker,
I have plenty of that size box,just let me know when you plan on coming, a days heads up or so and I will have it ready.
We do have a few handgun boxes on display Amsec and Fort Knox, we also sell, but do not stock V-Line, waiting for a shipment from Fort Knox to re-supply though. All of these products can be bolted down.
West Coast Safes, Inc.

bladerunner67 07-09-2013 11:35 AM

You could also contact one of those companies that make vinyl advertising wraps that people put on cars. Give them the dimensions of your safe and have them make a wrap that looks like a stack on washer/dryer combo, of course you'll want to wrap the safe yourself, this way when you have the garage door open it just looks like you have a stack on washer/dryer.

tozan 07-09-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bladerunner67 (Post 11776255)
You could also contact one of those companies that make vinyl advertising wraps that people put on cars. Give them the dimensions of your safe and have them make a wrap that looks like a stack on washer/dryer combo, of course you'll want to wrap the safe yourself, this way when you have the garage door open it just looks like you have a stack on washer/dryer.

I like this idea... lol

Glocker23 07-09-2013 12:12 PM

I wouldnt clean my 10-22 with the garage door open. :) More like I don't want my kid to mess with the safe, or have his friends messing with the safe, telling other people about it etc. Hence the extra security.

coma13 07-09-2013 2:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bladerunner67 (Post 11776255)
You could also contact one of those companies that make vinyl advertising wraps that people put on cars. Give them the dimensions of your safe and have them make a wrap that looks like a stack on washer/dryer combo, of course you'll want to wrap the safe yourself, this way when you have the garage door open it just looks like you have a stack on washer/dryer.

That is seriously the best idea I've heard. Obviously it won't stop anyone looking closely, but anyone peeking through a window or open garage door isn't going to take a second look.

readysetgo 07-09-2013 3:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bladerunner67 (Post 11776255)
You could also contact one of those companies that make vinyl advertising wraps that people put on cars. Give them the dimensions of your safe and have them make a wrap that looks like a stack on washer/dryer combo, of course you'll want to wrap the safe yourself, this way when you have the garage door open it just looks like you have a stack on washer/dryer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tozan (Post 11776465)
I like this idea... lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by coma13 (Post 11777815)
That is seriously the best idea I've heard. Obviously it won't stop anyone looking closely, but anyone peeking through a window or open garage door isn't going to take a second look.

That really is kinda brilliant!

Could do it as a fridge too.
Which brings another idea (I'm sure it's been suggested before), gut an old fridge and put the safe inside.

Cody 07-09-2013 4:03 PM

Here you go.

http://arwraps.us/refrigerator-wraps/

Just design one that looks like a fridge.

-Cody

P.S. and don't tell anyone on the internet you have a safe in your garage.

readysetgo 07-09-2013 4:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cody (Post 11778425)
P.S. and don't tell anyone on the internet you have a safe in your garage.

...or that it looks like an appliance :rofl:

Trapper 07-09-2013 8:43 PM

I used 1/2" pipe as a curtain rod and hung a cheap set of curtains to divide my garage and block the view from outside. The color is close to the color of the walls and not very noticeable in a 3 car garage.

readysetgo 07-09-2013 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killer Bee (Post 11779473)
... then wrap all of your appliances to look like gun safes :D

^^^ :rofl: This thread delivers.

OK, I'll stop the chatter now. But OP, you can't just put a cardboard box over it now that we've done all this planning for you. :) Keep us updated. Cheers.

Jel 07-10-2013 12:16 AM

Some good ideas here. I like the idea of using the front of a vinyl wardrobe as well as the custom wrap. The cheapest and easiest would be a big cardboard box though.

Glocker23 07-10-2013 1:54 AM

Awesome responses, thought this thread was going to go nowhere after it was moved from the Centerfire section. ;)

Ok - have it figured out and wouldn't leave you guys hanging on the conclusion.

My particular safe is too deep for a prefab cabinet (those are like 21") or vinyl wardrobes.

A visit to the Home Depot has revealed this:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/5-8-in-x-...0#.Ud0sZ_m1F-E

Using three pieces which Home Depot will cut to size, I'm going to build left, right and top walls. Will cost around 120 bucks in parts for everything.

This will cover everything but the front so I'll need to fashion some kind of door that can take a lock.

This should obscure the safe from everyone outside the garage and anyone who wanders inside the garage so it should be ok if the garage door is left open.

Inside the custom cabinet I'll have a sensor that triggers if the house alarm is activated.

I'll also put a smoke detector above the safe that will go off if any heat generating tools are used.

It won't be easy to find or break open this safe but it will also make it difficult to access for me as well so I would recommend a separate safe for quick access weaponry for HD situations.

renardsubtil 07-10-2013 8:34 AM

Moving boxes. Any given day if you look into someone garage, you can see folks with regular moving boxes stacked in their garage.. I'm not sure about using a fridge box, that's kinda large and obvious...I mean who stores an unused fridge in their garage?

Get a couple of moving boxes, cut out the "top and bottom" on a few (leave one for the top) and a corner on all of them. Then arrange them around the safe as if they were just plain stacked storage boxes in the garage.

Old4eyes 07-10-2013 2:03 PM

I think if I were to disguise my gunsafe I'd make it look like a refrigerator rather than a stack on washer-dryer. Let's face it, you can explain multiple refrigerators (beer) more than multiple washer-dryers.

ST22 07-10-2013 2:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old4eyes (Post 11785734)
I think if I were to disguise my gunsafe I'd make it look like a refrigerator rather than a stack on washer-dryer. Let's face it, you can explain multiple refrigerators (beer) more than multiple washer-dryers.

I think people wandering by would be looking for beer than your laundry though!

Toyman321 07-10-2013 8:56 PM

how about gutting a fridge and cutting the back out, slide it over the safe?

WASR10 07-10-2013 9:08 PM

LOL

http://youtu.be/Gp4A7mO9NeQ

local_nobody 07-11-2013 2:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glocker23 (Post 11774881)
I see getting two of them, cutting out the back of one of them. Cutting out the front of the second one, and then sewing them together to create a double depth.

this exactly.

arthur007 07-11-2013 11:02 AM

How to Hide a Gun Safe
 
Hiding a home gun safe is important for keeping guns away from intruders and children.

• Measure your gun safe
• Use an electric wall stud sensor
• Hang the gun safe via the attachments.
• Paint the gun safe the equivalent color
• Place bullets into an additional safe.

theunion1 07-11-2013 9:45 PM

Pick up an old coke machine. Sometimes non working ones are given away on craigslist for "parts". Hollow it out then slide in your safe. It locks as well and is VERY hard to break in to. Double safe!


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