Calguns.net

Calguns.net (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/index.php)
-   Handguns Gallery (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/forumdisplay.php?f=119)
-   -   I'll see your Wilson/Nighthawk/Les Baer and raise you a full custom! (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=680150)

beetle 01-15-2013 9:09 PM

I'll see your Wilson/Nighthawk/Les Baer and raise you a full custom!
 
Many of you know that I'm primarily a collector. As such I buy a lot of guns that I don't shoot. But back in 2010 I decided I wanted a high end 1911 that I could shoot. I went to the local gun store and "ordered" a customized Wilson. As the year went on I started to get the feeling that either the gun was not ordered or that the shop was having difficulty getting Wilson to accept a custom order because of the roster. Despite the shop's assurances I was pretty certain that the gun was not ordered (no record at Wilson, no order #, etc).

Ultimately I gave up on this route and started to look at alternatives for a high end 1911 shooter. Calguns member "Shenaniguns" turned me on to Heirloom Precision. I took a look at their work and was immediately impressed. It was just the gun I wanted -- a classic styled gun with modern upgrades and accuracy.

The way that Heirloom Precision works is that you send in a base 1911, and they completely rebuild it. They even go so far as to weld and straighten out the frame to get super tight tolerances. My original idea was to use a US Government issued World War 2 mixmaster to serve as the base gun. I wanted the classic Colt roll marks (slide markings). However, when I spoke to the shop they recommended an alternate route. Several years ago Colt issued a World War I reproduction. It had the looks and markings of a Colt via WWI but was made from modern techniques. Heirloom stated that the modern reproduction gun has much better metallurgy to work with.

So the hunt began to find a Colt World War I reproduction, which was no easy task as the gun had been out of production for quite some time. After a few months of searching I finally got one (had to go through the whole SSE process). It was in my hands for exactly one day before being shipped off to Heirloom to secure a place on the waiting list.

This is what the gun looked like before Heirloom did their magic.
http://www.employees.org/~beetle/gun...11/coltww1.JPG
http://www.employees.org/~beetle/gun.../coltww1-2.JPG

After the gun was sent off I put it out of my mind for awile and went through the rest of 2012. In late December I got a call from the shop saying the pistol was done!

Ooooo pretty box!
http://www.employees.org/~beetle/guns/hp1911/box.JPG

what's in the box? an object of pure beauty that's what!
http://www.employees.org/~beetle/guns/hp1911/gunbox.JPG

This gun was modeled after a 1918 Colt World War I pistol. Pictured here with the gun that inspired it, an all original Colt. Notice the same roll marks and stylized "JMG" acceptance stamp (John M Gibert).
http://www.employees.org/~beetle/guns/hp1911/twins1.JPG

The gun is a modern interpretation of the classic gun, but with all the modern goodies!

http://www.employees.org/~beetle/guns/hp1911/left.JPG

http://www.employees.org/~beetle/guns/hp1911/right.JPG

beetle 01-15-2013 9:11 PM

So what is so special about a full house custom? The care and attention that goes into every part of the build. There are zero MIM parts in this gun, every single part is made from tool steel or bar stock. The hand fit pieces perfectly fitted and the checkering is also perfect. The finish is a high polish blue.

flattened serrated slide top, and rear of slide
http://www.employees.org/~beetle/gun...1/slidetop.JPG

National Match Kart Barrel
http://www.employees.org/~beetle/guns/hp1911/kart.JPG

Maker's Mark. Built by one of the industry's best - Ted Yost
http://www.employees.org/~beetle/gun...makersmark.JPG

Even the screws are indexed and numbered! This so that the screwdriver slot are all aligned!!!!!!
http://www.employees.org/~beetle/guns/hp1911/screws.JPG

Lastly, all the work that was put into this gun
http://www.employees.org/~beetle/gun...buildsheet.jpg

Thank you Ted Yost and Heirloom Precision for builiding me a gun that exceeds my expectations!

A final artistic shot!
http://www.employees.org/~beetle/guns/hp1911/hpww1.jpg

Saigon1965 01-15-2013 9:16 PM

Oh my -

Press Check 01-15-2013 9:42 PM

That pistol is nothing short of amazing.

evol ways 01-15-2013 11:02 PM

Holy crap man that thing is beautiful! Congrats man.

BushcraftToday 01-15-2013 11:41 PM

Fantastic! How long did it take?


Sent from my Tactical Communication Device.

hitteam 01-16-2013 8:27 AM

I really like the walnut grips and Nitre blue small parts.

evidens83 01-17-2013 3:36 PM

Absolutely beautiful wow congrats!

evidens83 01-17-2013 3:36 PM

Absolutely beautiful wow congrats!

ExtremeX 01-17-2013 3:46 PM

Work of art, thanks for sharing.

LovingTheYear1911 01-17-2013 4:41 PM

And you're going to shoot that thing? Why??????? Beautiful 1911.

i<3HK 01-17-2013 5:17 PM

beautiful! :D

RealBarber 01-17-2013 5:31 PM

beautiful Colt

as usual

LeadSlinger585 01-17-2013 6:28 PM

Very nice! :drool5:

One of these days I'm going to have a pair of 9mm lightweight commander redone by Heirloom.

So how long was the wait and what was the total cost?

EDIT:

I came back to this thread to drool over your pictures, and I was wondering about 2 things:

1) Why the flat top on the slide with the serrations? I also noticed the serrations come to "reverse V" when meeting the front sight. Does that help with eye focus/sight alignment?

2) Why the serrations on the rear of the slide?

SoulStealer 01-17-2013 7:39 PM

Beautiful firearm!!

tiller 01-17-2013 7:42 PM

thanks


i must change my pants now!

Sam 01-17-2013 11:17 PM

That is a beautiful pistol!

NorCal Einstein 01-18-2013 1:25 PM

Holy crap, that is an amazing piece. I've always been a fan of those classic Colt rollmarks. They are really just quintessential 1911 to me.

SNCaliber 01-18-2013 1:27 PM

wow i need to wipe my chin of drool, such a beautiful work of art

pdugan6 01-18-2013 1:30 PM

that is puurdy.:wub:

ExtremeX 01-18-2013 1:31 PM

I’m afraid to ask what something like that even costs…

The more I look at it, the more I want it.

MrExel17 01-18-2013 1:39 PM

WOW.. thats really niice, thanks for sharing!

InGrAM 01-18-2013 1:49 PM

Just beautiful. :thumbsup:

Jeffu 01-18-2013 1:54 PM

beautiful

peacedivision 01-18-2013 1:59 PM

So, how does it shoot? :hide:

Brass Balls 01-18-2013 2:08 PM

stunner, excellent choice on the barrel, I think they are the best.

chickenfried 01-18-2013 2:29 PM

Beautiful! Since it was getting a major overhaul you weren't tempted to shoot it before sending it away?

Thomas1190 01-18-2013 8:46 PM

Speechless!!
Just beautiful! Congrats on a fantastic custom 1911 beetle! :D

jmaglipay 01-18-2013 10:15 PM

You should only shoot silver bullets out of that gun.

Twiggz 01-18-2013 10:53 PM

A true work of art.

Dhoggs 01-19-2013 2:54 PM

I WILL TAKE IT!!!

jcaoloveshine 01-19-2013 4:09 PM

Wow, that is gorgeous.

An Heirloom Precision gun is a pipe dream for me, in terms of finance and patience. Don't have $5K+ nor the patience to wait out 1-3 years, but that is just beautiful.

I've said this before, but man, you have the coolest 1911 collection on the web that I've seen.

If you ever do a full writeup of your entire collection, I could read it for days.

hntnnut 01-20-2013 7:46 PM

Good golly miss Molly.:tt1:


Richard

ninjamaster 01-20-2013 7:52 PM

Incredible piece! But, are you going to shoot it?

beetle 01-20-2013 8:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MovingX (Post 10239089)
Very nice! :drool5:

One of these days I'm going to have a pair of 9mm lightweight commander redone by Heirloom.

So how long was the wait and what was the total cost?

EDIT:

I came back to this thread to drool over your pictures, and I was wondering about 2 things:

1) Why the flat top on the slide with the serrations? I also noticed the serrations come to "reverse V" when meeting the front sight. Does that help with eye focus/sight alignment?

2) Why the serrations on the rear of the slide?

Serrations in general help with glare. Flat top slide has been the mark of "high end" Colts for the longest time. It started with Colt's first "higher end" pistol besides the government model, the national match. The original national match pistols had a flat top slide, a trend that continues to this day.

Same deal for the rear of slide, they help reduce glare and improve contrast for the sight. They make a small, but noticeable difference.

The reverse V coming into the front sight is purely a artistic touch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by peacedivision (Post 10247484)
So, how does it shoot? :hide:

will shoot it as soon as I have an opportunity to do so. Probably in the next week or so. It feels great in hand though. I really like the 30lpi checkering. provides great grip without tearing up your hand (like springfields 20lpi checkering).

Quote:

Originally Posted by chickenfried (Post 10247772)
Beautiful! Since it was getting a major overhaul you weren't tempted to shoot it before sending it away?

I have another pistol that is exactly the same (different rollmarks) that I use as a shooter. The colt 100 year anniversary tier 3 is identitical with the exception of having the 1911-2011 rollmark in place of the US Army marking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcaoloveshine (Post 10257949)
Wow, that is gorgeous.

An Heirloom Precision gun is a pipe dream for me, in terms of finance and patience. Don't have $5K+ nor the patience to wait out 1-3 years, but that is just beautiful.

I've said this before, but man, you have the coolest 1911 collection on the web that I've seen.

If you ever do a full writeup of your entire collection, I could read it for days.

For those wondering about time and cost, jcaoloveshine is pretty close in terms of the #s.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninjamaster (Post 10269226)
Incredible piece! But, are you going to shoot it?

Yes, this will purely be a range piece not a safe queen. I won't shoot my historic collectibles for fear of something breaking. However, this is a refinished piece based on a modern reproduction gun. I plan to shoot the snot out of it, and maybe in 10 years I can always send it back to Heirloom to be renewed again.

As always, thanks everyone for the nice comments.

greywolf1911 01-21-2013 1:33 PM

Really nice, congratulation on a fine piece!!

Heirloom Precision will be working on my Pre-80 Combat Commander in March. Can't wait!

chozenfew805 01-23-2013 8:17 PM

Very Nice!!!!!:D

bsgesch 01-24-2013 1:19 PM

Very, very nice. :thumbsup:

em9sredbeam 01-24-2013 1:46 PM

I need to stop looking at threads by you. It would be easier to hate you if you weren't such a cool member of the community. It is a piece of art and it is beautiful. Are you actually going to shoot it?

den888 01-26-2013 2:30 PM

Very nice!


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 1:09 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.