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mcrdsd911 01-12-2013 11:03 AM

Panoche question ??
 
Hey Calgunners,

My cousin amd I are planning to take some trips to Panoche here pretty quick and when I google map it from Hollister, it's about 60 miles and time of travel is about 2 hrs ?? That doesn't make sense to me lol Could you guys give me some insight on this. Thanks !

Czsp-01-9mm 01-12-2013 1:00 PM

Slow curvy roads

mcrdsd911 01-12-2013 1:46 PM

Thanks for the heads up !

GeeDog 01-12-2013 3:02 PM

Last time I was there with a friend, we stopped to check out a little campground area and we could hear the whistle of bullets going overhead of us from the other side of the hill. Strange place. Looks like a moonscape in some parts of it, but it's one of the few areas around to shoot, other than structured ranges. I'll make the trip (few hours from my place) just because I can usually only shoot on the weekends, and the structured ranges I go to are hard to get a lane on (rifle side) on weekends. I much prefer shooting out in the open without being monitored by somebody. Beside, it's easier to shoot shotguns, black powder, (and if I want to, rapid fire) when I'm out at Panoche.

xrMike 01-12-2013 3:59 PM

I'd say it's more like 1.5 hours (from Hollister).

Czsp-01-9mm 01-12-2013 4:04 PM

Always tumey hills but its a smaller area

mcrdsd911 01-12-2013 4:11 PM

Ya, i'll probably check out those two spots in the next week. Thanks again guys !

xrMike 01-12-2013 5:29 PM

Griswold Hills is out there too. Maybe a LITTLE bit closer but not much, not sure on that, never actually checked the mileage...

To get there you stay on Panoche Road (heading towards the abandoned mining town of New Idria) instead of making the left turn onto Little Panoche Road (which takes you to Panoche and Tumey shooting areas).

Downside to Griswold is that it's a MUCH smaller area to shoot in compared to the other two, better suited for pistols and shotguns than rifles. 100 yards max.

mcrdsd911 01-12-2013 6:33 PM

Oh ok cool, thanks ! Looks like we'll probably do Panoche so we can do some running drills with our primary and secondary weapons.

Wicked K5 01-14-2013 3:58 PM

FWIW, a few months ago I went shooting on private land between Panoche and Griswold. Coming home, I timed myself at just about an hour (driving my truck like I stole it) to my driveway on the west side of town.


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cgosselin 01-19-2013 7:09 PM

Planning to go shoot tomorrow. Does anyone know if the gates are open?

mcrdsd911 01-19-2013 7:40 PM

Gates are open !! Just went today and the conditions were freaking perfect :gunsmilie:

cgosselin 01-19-2013 8:24 PM

Good!!! Thanks for the fast reply!

outkastcrl 01-19-2013 10:07 PM

Anything whistling over your head? I may have to try it out there one of these days.


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Originally Posted by mcrdsd911 (Post 10259892)
Gates are open !! Just went today and the conditions were freaking perfect :gunsmilie:


acegunnr 01-19-2013 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mcrdsd911 (Post 10259892)
Gates are open !! Just went today and the conditions were freaking perfect :gunsmilie:

Watch out for the boy scout troop from Hollister doing their annual camp, shoot and community service clean up this weekend. They're camping in the valley below the bathroom.

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mcrdsd911 01-20-2013 12:49 PM

No whistling rounds at all. We were at the upper valley. found an awesome spot with some nice views lol like acegunnr advised, watch out for the boy scout troops below the bathrooms. Maybe i'll post some pics of our shoot tonight.

tzotzo 01-21-2013 7:03 AM

you do need to be careful out there, and I have experienced ricochet rounds flying overhead several times. Every now and then you get the clowns that anti-gun people have in their head when they think guns. These clowns will not understand the concept of acceptable backstops behind their targets.
The reason for this is Panoche is quite spacious and there are no designated firing lines... you have to use common sense, which of course not everybody is equipped with.

If you go on a weekday you will have much less probability of sharing the space with careless shooters.

Kenneth83 01-21-2013 7:28 AM

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Originally Posted by xrMike (Post 10193288)
Griswold Hills is out there too...

Griswold is not the best place to shoot. You need to be 150 yards away from the road or any out buildings and NOT shoot across any roads or trails... The only way to do that at Griswold is to go up and over the hills, which are steep, or hike into the ravine, but that's only good for pistols cause you are basically at the base of the surrounding hills.

xrMike 01-21-2013 10:37 AM

^ Yeah, it's pretty much only good for pistols and shotguns, and less than 100-yard rifle shooting. But you can shoot right there, in front of the kiosk/bathroom/picnic table, towards the hill that is away from the road. We've had BLM guys come out and talk to us while shooting there, and they said we were fine as long as we kept our muzzles away from the road.

I've also hiked back into that canyon you mentioned, on the left, and you're correct -- hills on both sides makes that area really only good for pistols too.

One of these days I'm gonna hike to the end of the canyon and climb those hills on the backside (away from the road) and see what is beyond them.

A lot of people don't see the abandoned mining shaft entrance there at Griswold, half way up the hill side, with a big iron door, padlocked to prevent entry (I've climbed up to it before just to see if there's any way to get in, but no).

I like to shoot my 1911 at that door from about 100 yards away. You hold at the top of the door and your shots will hit roughly center. THUNK! THUNK! Lots of fun (please don't shoot centerfire rifles at it though; that will dent and in some cases, penetrate; you don't want to damage somebody else's property). Doing this made me realize that the 1911 is plenty accurate to hit somebody at 100 yards, or at the very least keep their head down.

Griswold has a decent cinder block bathroom now and an improved parking lot, with a covered picnic table. These are major improvements compared to before (when there was absolutely NOTHING there!). Hopefully the thug/dumbass element haven't shot these improvements to pieces yet.

I haven't been out there for awhile.

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fremont lapua 01-24-2013 11:17 PM

It is in the condor area so no lead pistol or rifle rounds.

covingtonhouse 01-25-2013 5:32 AM

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Originally Posted by fremont lapua (Post 10313475)
It is in the condor area so no lead pistol or rifle rounds.

This is the first I've heard of this for target shooting.
I thought lead free for hunting.....
BLM website mentions nothing about lead-free ammo for target shooting.

4DMASTR 01-25-2013 5:46 AM

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Originally Posted by outkastcrl (Post 10261117)
Anything whistling over your head? I may have to try it out there one of these days.

This, I have been wanting to take my kids out to some BLM or state forest land but I worry greatly about jackholes with no safety concerns. I keep a decent first aid kit but hope to never need it, especially for my kids in the middle of nowhere.

emtmark 01-25-2013 7:09 AM

A bunch of us medics go out two or three times a year. Rangers always stop by and chat. They always tell us if anybody goes down their bringing them to us. We laugh but always volunteer services (what little we can do away from out jobs) for the day. Next trip is next month sometime.

Can'thavenuthingood 01-25-2013 7:50 AM

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Originally Posted by covingtonhouse (Post 10314330)
This is the first I've heard of this for target shooting.
I thought lead free for hunting.....
BLM website mentions nothing about lead-free ammo for target shooting.

These were my thoughts also, non lead for hunting not target shooting.
Any references stating lead free only for target shooting?
No gut piles around.

More research needed here.

Vick

xrMike 01-25-2013 8:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 4DMASTR (Post 10314401)
I keep a decent first aid kit but hope to never need it, especially for my kids in the middle of nowhere.

Yeah, the nearest hospital is at least an hour away, and no cell service either.

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Originally Posted by fremont lapua (Post 10313475)
It is in the condor area so no lead pistol or rifle rounds.

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Originally Posted by Can'thavenuthingood (Post 10315209)
These were my thoughts also, non lead for hunting not target shooting. More research needed here.

If you are hunting, no lead ammo.

For target shooting and blasting in general, you can shoot whatever you want.

fremont lapua 01-25-2013 3:20 PM

My bad I found this in a PDF on the DFW website...

What about target shooting, “plinking”, or firearms for personal protection?
The Commission does not regulate these activities. Use of lead projectiles is legal unless another government entity has determined otherwise for lands they administer. The regulations prohibiting lead only relate to possession while engaged in specified hunting activities.

So as long as you are not hunting you can use lead rounds, if you are hunting big game in the area you can not use lead or have lead rounds for the weapon you are using to hunt big game.

DeanW66 01-28-2013 8:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fremont lapua (Post 10319835)
So as long as you are not hunting you can use lead rounds, if you are hunting big game in the area you can not use lead or have lead rounds for the weapon you are using to hunt big game.

This is an important point (bolded above by me) to keep in mind. Not just big game, but non-game (e.g. coyote) also.

xrMike 01-28-2013 8:38 AM

Yeah, you can't even shoot ground squirrels or rabbits with a .22 is my understanding.

No dead animals (or gut piles) with lead in them allowed.

Wish I could remember the web site I found that shows all of the trash they've taken out of sick condor stomachs. Those birds will eat screws, nails, bottlecaps, bits of plastic, all kinds of man-made trash.

Some species were not meant to survive.

barflyfisherman 02-04-2013 9:05 PM

You ONLY NEED LEAD FREE AMMUNITION IF YOU ARE SHOOTING ANIMALS.

If you are punching paper or sighting in a rifle shoot what you want.

Please no shooting of glass bottles - no one picks up the broken glass. leave it cleaner than you found it, so that they do not close this area to us. Shoot into a hillside as a backdrop - not down the length of the river bed.

There is no shade or drinking water either. Fastest way is to go I-5 & enter from that side. Even folks from Hollister go that way! Tumley Hills is best place for plinkings.

GeeDog 02-04-2013 9:33 PM

I think that only applies to hunting and not to target shooting.


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