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Petra 01-10-2013 3:02 PM

Any of you guys into water cooling PCs?
 
Just as the title states, I'm curious as to how many here are into water cooling PCs... or, perhaps, just case/component modding?

67goat 01-10-2013 3:11 PM

I dabbled in water cooling, but my days of overclocking have been over since the P4 era. I was never much of a gamer, so it was more just because I could. With the newer multi-cores, not ever pushing my system to the limits except for running PCMark, spending more on guns, and spending more on my car (more worthy of "overclocking" since I do tend to push its limits), I just haven't seen the need for it the last few years. I do remember the TechTV episode where they were trying different substances for submersion cooling. The commercial coolant worked so well they cooled the system below the minimum operating temp.

clsA 01-10-2013 3:26 PM

I considered the Corsair H80 on my last build but ended up staying with the good old Coolermaster Hyper Plus. I have the Roomy Coolermaster 690 II Advanced Case and overheating has never really been an issue. I currently run an i5-3570k @ 4.2ghz and even during gaming i never get much over 60c. It's just a moderate overclock but well worth the efforts required to get their. I stacked the case with 2 extra 140mm fans and it's very quite, just the way I planned ;)

HapaMan 01-10-2013 3:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clsA (Post 10171685)
I considered the Corsair H80 on my last build but ended up staying with the good old Coolermaster Hyper Plus. I have the Roomy Coolermaster 690 II Advanced Case and overheating has never really been an issue. I currently run an i5-3570k @ 4.2ghz and even during gaming i never get much over 60c. It's just a moderate overclock but well worth the efforts required to get their. I stacked the case with 2 extra 140mm fans and it's very quite, just the way I planned ;)

I have the H80. Had to RMA the first unit I got, the replacement has been working flawlessly ever since. Keeps my 3.4ghz i7-2600K running smooth and cool at 4.6ghz.

67goat 01-10-2013 3:59 PM

Petra, you do realize that if you use the same username and avatar that people will always know who you are right?

Thought I recognized an overclockersforums user.

And shouldn't the last option be aybabtu?

Petra 01-10-2013 4:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67goat (Post 10172033)
Petra, you do realize that if you use the same username and avatar that people will always know who you are right?

Yup, I do. Anonymity is not something that I strive for, as is evidenced by the personal brand I built for myself from 2005-2010.

I've even had past customers contact me through random forums like Bimmerforums...

Merc1138 01-10-2013 4:47 PM

Built a custom watercooled system for a new rig I put together a few years ago, ran great.

Then I decided to change the videocard... didn't feel like swapping the videocard waterblock and adding another to the loop(went from a single card to a crossfire setup). System still ran great just cooling the CPU. Then I had to swap the motherboard... complete pain in the ***. Ran great with the new board.

Decided to build a new system last year. With major component changes being a massive PITA with watercooling, I opted to go back to air. The cheap sealed units would be easier, but they simply aren't good enough. Putting together a good custom setup wasn't hard, maintenance was easy the couple of times I flushed it due to smart planning of tubing, but having to gut the entire thing for a mobo change, or needing to re-do tubing/blocks for a videocard change was just terrible.

I see that there's finally a waterblock available for my gtx590, but at $150, plus a CPU block, plus a pump, plus radiators... it's just not worth it.

richard310 01-10-2013 6:15 PM

I thought about it when I built my system a few years back but I prefer air-cooled. 6 Scythe 120mm fans at 1900rpm pushing 110cfm each. I'm good. Sounds like a tornado everytime my PC's running... thank goodness for fan controllers. My comp never gets close to max temps even when doing a 360deg high quality rendering. Plus it's easier to swap hardware out when upgrading or replacing.

When you've got other hobbies like cars and guns... well, priorities and funds get placed elsewhere. :D

ibanezfoo 01-10-2013 8:37 PM

I'm always moving parts around between cases and swapping things. Water cooling is just a pain in the butt... Also, lugging that heavy crap to a LAN party would not be fun. We have a guy who has to bring his rig in on a dolly... no thanks.

Rekrab 01-11-2013 5:57 AM

After reading some reviews I got a Corsair H80 when I built my new system. I'm pleased with the noise reduction. But quite frankly, I'd never do a full custom set up.

Also, RIP Dangerden. Maybe... Whatever.

glassparman 01-11-2013 6:12 AM

I've been an IT guy for over 30 years. I've scrapped out many MAC computers that had water cooling and no matter what you do, water is going to leak out and ruin stuff.

'Nuff said.

Horton Fenty 01-11-2013 6:27 AM

I've considered it many times, but could never get past the truth that water and electronics don't mix.

Petra 01-11-2013 7:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glassparman (Post 10177433)
I've scrapped out many MAC computers that had water cooling and no matter what you do, water is going to leak out and ruin stuff.

'Nuff said.

:facepalm: Don't even get me started on that idiotically designed cooling system... Apple basically built a time bomb. A properly designed system won't behave nor fail in the manner that Apple's cooling system typically did.

@Rekrab: The loss of Danger Den represented a significant blow to the industry from a parts sourcing/distribution perspective.

billofrights 01-11-2013 7:33 AM

I put an H100 into my new system last summer and I couldn't be happier.

FourLoko 01-11-2013 7:53 AM

I had my PC watercooled for a while just for fun and cool factor. Problem is you still need fans for the radiator so there's still noise. Even did the video card.

Now I have an awesome Thermalright cooler that's just as good.

From this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...wetstacker.jpg

To this:
http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_pa...g/DSC_0185.jpg

paul0660 01-11-2013 8:04 AM

15 years ago, yes.

sugi942 01-11-2013 8:45 AM

Thought about it for my HTPC build. When I end up changing the platform again, I'll probably try a drop in unit.

Montu 01-11-2013 8:48 AM

went back to air on my i7 and running 5ghz ..was on Water with my Q6600 @ 3.8ghz and before that with my opteron 165 @ 2.6ghz


My old system running 2 x1900xt's with an opteron 165
http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL475.../142601340.jpg

Q66 + 8800gtx
http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL475.../254116579.jpg

now I'm running one of these
http://media.bestofmicro.com/B/0/236..._installed.jpg

Merc1138 01-11-2013 1:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourLoko (Post 10178095)
I had my PC watercooled for a while just for fun and cool factor. Problem is you still need fans for the radiator so there's still noise. Even did the video card.

That depends on your radiator and fan setup. If you have the space, a bigger radiator with a push/pull configuration of fans(meaning on the front and back of the radiator) and you can get away with a much lower RPM. Of course the amount of heat you're dumping into the loop is also going to determine how the radiators you're going to need to be able to keep the fan RPM low enough.

Of course there's also a difference in switching to watercooling for dealing with heat output of overclocking, and switching for silence. That being said, my own setup was simply to keep things quiet with only a mild OC involved.

For the people claiming watercooling isn't safe... sure if you do it wrong it can be disastrous. If you take the time to learn how to install and test things, it's far less problematic than say... maintaining a peltier cooled setup at near freezing temperatures(now that was something that actually caused a horrific problem... never thought CPU pins could oxidize and become stuck in the socket like that).

triggs75 01-11-2013 2:11 PM

The system I put together a couple years ago is running nice and coooool. :43:

Components;
»Obsidian 800D
»CPU: Intel Core i7 940 OC'd to 4.0
»Motherboard: Evga X58
»EVGA GeForce GTX 295
»CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3x2GB)

Water cool parts;
»RAD - EK XT360, EK XT260 & XSPC RS120
»CPU Block - Alphacool H14 Yellowstone BRB
»Koolance Northbridge/Southbridge Water Block
»Black Feeser Mosfet Block
»EK-FC295 GTX GPU Water block
»EK-Multioption RES 250
»2 x Swiftech MCP355 Water Pump
»XSPC Dual Acrylic Top

My water loop goes as follows:

360RAD -> CPU-> 120RAD -> Motherboard blocks -> Res -> Dual 355 Pumps -> 240RAD -> GPU -> 360RAD


The pics have my old GPU in there.

http://imageshack.us/a/img855/6226/dsc01820pm.jpg


http://imageshack.us/a/img838/1118/dsc01836w.jpg


Chad

castgold 01-11-2013 2:33 PM

I have an H60. Went from ~71-72 C to a constant 27-28 C. So far, so good.

Nyanman 01-19-2013 10:11 PM

Had a kludged together cooling system on my last computer.
Haven't been pushing the current one to the point where water cooling is needed yet.

I myself like the submerged cooling systems. Easier than phase change or cascade, but more effective than water.
Even some places have had good luck with submerged cooling servers.

dropbox 01-20-2013 1:29 AM

Stuffed an MSI 990FXA into an older Lian Li aluminum case last year for desktop duties once I got my home office together. Recently picked up an older Mac Pro (2008), and now the 990 sounds like a wind tunnel by comparison. I've been tempted to pick up one of the packaged units for noise reduction, but the only place to mount it would be the side cover which won't work so well. If I start thinking about a new case, maybe...

docsmileyface 01-20-2013 8:52 PM

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...51136242_n.jpg

H100 was way cheaper and easier. Went with that.

epilepticninja 01-20-2013 10:04 PM

All the years of gaming and such, I never built a computer that required that much cooling. A couple of 120's and a good air cooled processor, and I was in like Flinn.

triggs75 01-22-2013 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epilepticninja (Post 10270407)
All the years of gaming and such, I never built a computer that required that much cooling. A couple of 120's and a good air cooled processor, and I was in like Flinn.

It's not that it is required or needs that much, it's the pleasure of building it. Why do people mod anything, their car or heck even firearms.

BonnieB 01-25-2013 3:27 PM

Back in the dark ages, some IBM mainframes were water cooled. People said it was fine, but electricity and water in close proximity gives me the willies.

dasumo 01-25-2013 3:32 PM

I hatted my PC, so I water cooled it by throwing in the pool in my backyard! Does that count? ....sorry, couldn't resist!

stilly 01-25-2013 7:47 PM

water cooling is ghetto...

UNLESS it is needed, just keep it out.

diveRN 01-25-2013 8:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67goat (Post 10171508)
I dabbled in water cooling, but my days of overclocking have been over since the P4 era. I was never much of a gamer, so it was more just because I could. ...

^^^ What he said. The last water cooled case I had was for a dual-P4. When that computer was retired, I was done with it.

For what I do these days, ain't worth the hassle. Now I spend my time shooting with my kid and working up reloads.

Petra 01-27-2013 11:07 AM

Hm, I'm actually finding the results of this thread to be rather interesting... then again, bringing up this topic outside of the usual crazy overclocking/modding enthusiast forums tends to provide a small dose of perspective.

As a side note, if anyone's interested in listening to people talking about computer stuff, I was brought on as a guest for the latest episode of the Mod Zoo podcast partially because they wanted to do another feature on watercooling: http://themodzoo.com/podcast/The%20M...%20-%20Ep9.mp3

twohi2play 01-28-2013 10:23 PM

I have a h100i over a delidded 3770k @ 4.8 ghz. My PC is built strictly for running FSX.

Firerescuebatt07 01-29-2013 12:13 AM

nope, I am running a noctua NH-D14 though on a Cooler Master Haf X

http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n...d/IMG_3394.jpg

NYT 01-30-2013 5:36 PM

got out of water cooling ten years ago. too much of a hassle.

gmbrdilos 02-03-2013 1:42 AM

Newer chips generally run cooler. My rig is by no means weak, but I still aircool. I don't overclock and the case has good circulation (lots and lots of fans). If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Water and electronics is still a taboo relationship in my view.

Falstaff 02-03-2013 9:22 PM

I'm always impressed by people who can route their cables so neatly, my rigs look like rats nests...

Montu 02-03-2013 9:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falstaff (Post 10419452)
I'm always impressed by people who can route their cables so neatly, my rigs look like rats nests...

did it once..was proud of my self..then when i went in there to change something out i was far too lazy to spend time routing everything perfectly again.

Foebia 02-03-2013 9:47 PM

The fluid is actually safe non conductive or somthing.

Petra 02-05-2013 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foebia (Post 10419635)
The fluid is actually safe non conductive or somthing.

The typical coolant used in DIY setups is just distilled water... which is fairly non-conductive until it either picks up enough contaminants, encounters a high enough voltage, seeps into an area where there's only a tiny gap between contact points, or a combination of the three. Many people will add dyes and stuff (like corrosion inhibitors, if they're mixing incompatible metals) to their coolant which increases its electrical conductivity... but the general rule is don't build a system that leaks.

There are pre-mixed "non-conductive" coolants available but they're all water based and, arguably, aren't any safer than distilled water. Very few ever venture into experimenting with truly non-conductive coolants like Fluorinert.


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