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swift 01-06-2013 1:29 PM

PPT of A15 pistol lower only
 
When transferring an AR15 pistol lower to another CA resident who has an HSC, does the FFL need to go through the safe handling demonstration? If so, can the demonstration be done at the start of DROS?

The AR15 was brought into CA as a SSEand I still have the paperwork. Ideally it would be transferred with a ten round mag with a bullet button, but I do have a zero round adapter that could be installed. Would it matter?

Thanks.

kel-tec-innovations 01-06-2013 1:50 PM

safe handling demonstration depends how anal the FFL is. Ask the FFL that you plan on doing the PPT at. Each FFL has their own belief some with FUD some by the book etc.

No zero round adapter needed since its a PPT as far as I know.

ugimports 01-06-2013 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kel-tec-innovations (Post 10128606)
safe handling demonstration depends how anal the FFL is. Ask the FFL that you plan on doing the PPT at. Each FFL has their own belief some with FUD some by the book etc.

No zero round adapter needed since its a PPT as far as I know.

The safe handling demo is required by law:
http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/hscfaqs#a19

Ed_Hazard 01-06-2013 11:15 PM

They may make you walk through the steps with it as is, but in reality no demo.

Quiet 01-07-2013 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ugimports (Post 10133768)
The safe handling demo is required by law:
http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/hscfaqs#a19

QFT.

Penal Code 26850
(a) Except as authorized by the department, no firearms dealer may deliver a handgun unless the recipient performs a safe handling demonstration with that handgun.
(b) The safe handling demonstration shall commence with the handgun unloaded and locked with the firearm safety device with which it is required to be delivered, if applicable. While maintaining muzzle awareness, that is, the firearm is pointed in a safe direction, preferably down at the ground, and trigger discipline, that is, the trigger finger is outside of the trigger guard and along side of the handgun frame, at all times, the handgun recipient shall correctly and safely perform the following:
(1) If the handgun is a semiautomatic pistol, the steps listed in Section 26853.
(2) If the handgun is a double-action revolver, the steps listed in Section 26856.
(3) If the handgun is a single-action revolver, the steps listed in Section 26859.
(c) The recipient shall receive instruction regarding how to render that handgun safe in the event of a jam.
(d) The firearms dealer shall sign and date an affidavit stating that the requirements of subdivisions (a) and (b) have been met. The firearms dealer shall additionally obtain the signature of the handgun purchaser on the same affidavit. The firearms dealer shall retain the original affidavit as proof of compliance with this requirement.
(e) The recipient shall perform the safe handling demonstration for a department-certified instructor.
(f) No demonstration shall be required if the dealer is returning the handgun to the owner of the handgun.
(g) Department-certified instructors who may administer the safe handling demonstration shall meet the requirements set forth in subdivision (b) of Section 31635.
(h) The persons who are exempt from the requirements of subdivision (a) of Section 31615, pursuant to Section 31700, are also exempt from performing the safe handling demonstration.


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