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Hunt 12-05-2012 11:43 AM

McCain Valley D16 now lost
 
San Diego County now almost completely destroyed by the Bureau of land Massacre, BLM. McCain Valley *(our public lands)* one of the few places left to hunt given to Washington DC Fossil Fuel Cronies, (Pattern/ Carlyle)as part of their greenwashing dog and pony show.
http://eastcountymagazine.org/node/11873

paul1k2k 12-05-2012 1:38 PM

Thanks for posting. I've spent a lot of time out there and the last thing I wanted to see was this.

Hunt 12-05-2012 2:30 PM

people have no idea what they have planned for San Diego County. The State of California will be sacrificing most of San Diego and Kern Counties counties to meet the 30% renewable portfolios. Keep in mind each solar and windfarm requires a billion dollar transmission line, not much left of D16 now.

180ls1 12-05-2012 3:46 PM

Yikes. That's a great area for quail and some good desert deer there also.

StraightShooter 12-05-2012 8:14 PM

That is insane! How disappointing.

NoNOS67 12-05-2012 8:57 PM

It was so sad to see what Sunrise Powerlink did to the area! Are the turbines a sure thing out there?

Baxter 12-05-2012 9:46 PM

There are some bruisers out there. That is also where I called in my first longtail. Sounds like it is a rec area now. Jacumba is private now why not here to? Next is Julian.

GJC 12-05-2012 10:02 PM

:mad::facepalm::mad:

sd_shooter 12-06-2012 4:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoNOS67 (Post 9860887)
It was so sad to see what Sunrise Powerlink did to the area! Are the turbines a sure thing out there?

There's now a huge farm in Ocotillo. Appeared virtually overnight.

I'm all for "green" energy if it can be self-sustaining and profitable, but so far I have not seen examples of it.
- Solar always requires government subsidies
- Wind turbines are often out of action. The smaller farm up the road by the casino is never more than 80% operational (just count the number of towers that are idle when you drive by.) That's 20% of the profit gone before you even start talking about cost of the equipment, efficiency, maintenance, weather patterns, expected life of the turbines etc.

Green power is nothing more than a political football and a waste of taxpayer money.

180ls1 12-06-2012 9:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sd_shooter (Post 9862249)
There's now a huge farm in Ocotillo. Appeared virtually overnight.

I'm all for "green" energy if it can be self-sustaining and profitable, but so far I have not seen examples of it.
- Solar always requires government subsidies
- Wind turbines are often out of action. The smaller farm up the road by the casino is never more than 80% operational (just count the number of towers that are idle when you drive by.) That's 20% of the profit gone before you even start talking about cost of the equipment, efficiency, maintenance, weather patterns, expected life of the turbines etc.

Green power is nothing more than a political football and a waste of taxpayer money.

No kidding, i drove out there after a storm and the wind i guess had torn off a ton of those arms.

Hunt 12-07-2012 7:14 AM

Obama's economic reinvestment act gave away BILLIONS to the fossil fuel industry to put up these hoax windscams and solar farm scams for greenwashing purposes. They aren't green at all they destroy the public lands *OUR HUNTING LANDS*, Ocotillo got a permit to kill 5 endangered sheep, the EIR was a drive by fraud what few remaining eagles in the area will end up dead. Anyway plans like this are being made throuigh out the South West, the AZ strip is slated for a windscam, Wyo just got a few thousand turbines approved in prime antelope and deer country. No subsidies for roof top solar hmmm I wonder why? Could it be these companies names are subsidaries of Goldman Sachs, Carlyle, Halliburton? Keep in mind each is guaranteed a profit and each gets a new transmission line. Hunters need to pay attention to plans for OUR BLM lands. McCain Valley is a very big loss. So will be the AZ Strip.


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