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Clownpuncher 10-07-2012 4:53 PM

Military might take your guns
 
Here they come, they're going to take your guns if they have "reasonable grounds" or if you are "high risk" for suicide. So, define "reasonable grounds". You have PTSD? You were deployed to a combat zone? Will commanders feel there needs to be a "transition period" upon your return before you can have your weapons back? Sounds like BS to me.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/08/us...pagewanted=all

Sunday 10-07-2012 6:56 PM

1,2,3,4 what have you been fighting for? Certainly not against an oppressive government.

evidens83 10-07-2012 8:10 PM

Kinda off-topic BUT if I live on post with my family do I really have to register my weapons on post???

For the record, they are registered on post just asking because plenty of soldiers have told me to not even mention owning firearms.

mlevans66 10-07-2012 9:23 PM

Yeah you have to. Having a gun on base and not registered is a problem waiting to happen. Once one person gets caught with one gun, then it's a unit shake down of base housing.

Matt1984 10-07-2012 9:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evidens83 (Post 9473521)
Kinda off-topic BUT if I live on post with my family do I really have to register my weapons on post???

For the record, they are registered on post just asking because plenty of soldiers have told me to not even mention owning firearms.

Yes they do, and honestly as an MP I'm going to tell you everytime during an investigation we found unregistered weapons on post people would get fried for that...its lame but post commanders take it serious. If you care about your rank and your pay just register your weapons on post. I know its a hassle but your family's income depends on it.

Linh 10-07-2012 9:41 PM

Another RE-ACTION by the military. Let's be proactive and take away the guns from the military then 0% of suicides will be committed by using service weapons. There you I solved half the suicide problem.

But seriously though the military need to be PRO active and not reactive. I mean seriously what do they expect when a person experience war then have some issues readjusting then start drinking ............etc....... We're all different so each person handles things differently.

Some guys might celebrate their divorce with their wife and others might not take it so well.

As far as weapons on post it's their post and their rules. No surprise when you sign the dotted line.

Linh 10-07-2012 9:41 PM

Another RE-ACTION by the military. Let's be proactive and take away the guns from the military then 0% of suicides will be committed by using service weapons. There you I solved half the suicide problem.

But seriously though the military need to be PRO active and not reactive. I mean seriously what do they expect when a person experience war then have some issues readjusting then start drinking ............etc....... We're all different so each person handles things differently.

Some guys might celebrate their divorce with their wife and others might not take it so well.

As far as weapons on post it's their post and their rules. No surprise when you sign the dotted line.

JoefromPA 10-08-2012 6:02 AM

Just one more reason to make those who need help second guess actually going to get it.

QQQ 10-08-2012 7:18 AM

What a society we live in! We'll go on decades-long military conquests to "liberate" foreigners and then turn around and be shocked, simply shocked, that our military men and women have trouble coping with years of constant war.

Here was a kicker:
"Dr. Woodson, who declined to provide details, said the campaign would also include measures to encourage service members, their friends and their relatives to remove possibly dangerous prescription drugs from the homes of potentially suicidal troops. "

How about not prescribing huge amounts of drugs that are known to cause suicidal behavior to begin with? It shouldn't take a doctor to see how stupid that policy is. Yet nobody is talking about restricting access to or confiscating dangerous, suicide-causing pharmaceuticals.

brando 10-08-2012 11:37 AM

Unfortunately, the military has always had a lowest-common denominator attitude when it comes to resolving problems like this. Take the worst case scenario then apply corrective action for it across the board.

CavTrooper 10-08-2012 5:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QQQ (Post 9475093)
What a society we live in! We'll go on decades-long military conquests to "liberate" foreigners and then turn around and be shocked, simply shocked, that our military men and women have trouble coping with years of constant war.

Here was a kicker:
"Dr. Woodson, who declined to provide details, said the campaign would also include measures to encourage service members, their friends and their relatives to remove possibly dangerous prescription drugs from the homes of potentially suicidal troops. "

How about not prescribing huge amounts of drugs that are known to cause suicidal behavior to begin with? It shouldn't take a doctor to see how stupid that policy is. Yet nobody is talking about restricting access to or confiscating dangerous, suicide-causing pharmaceuticals.

Isn't that exactly what the part you quoted is saying?

thebloodsonthewall 10-09-2012 12:26 PM

Long story short, my friend got caught with unregistered weapons in his house. He didn't get demoted but he might not get promoted again and it held up his PCS. I suggest just living off post. Solves that problem and a ton more.

As long as your not an idiot, the military doesn't care if you have guns at home or not as long as they are legal. Many posts have ranges that you can use on the weekends.

chris 10-09-2012 1:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brando (Post 9476443)
Unfortunately, the military has always had a lowest-common denominator attitude when it comes to resolving problems like this. Take the worst case scenario then apply corrective action for it across the board.

Yep. Doesn't work all the time either.

Mr.Caketown 10-11-2012 6:16 PM

Right now as the military is losing many soldiers to suicide as it is losing soldiers in the theater of war , it is a big concern and although it might seem out there it might save a few lives somewhere along the way


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