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Matt1984 10-07-2012 2:12 PM

Old dude in ACU's at Gunshow
 
Ok so Saturday I went to the gunshow at ontario, even though its more like a swap meet now with all the useless junk they sell there. Anyways besides the point. I saw a older gentleman and that is being conservative wearing ACU's with E-5 rank, 101st patch airborne and air assault badges on. But the kicker was instead of US Army name tape it said some stuff like SGCA or SCGA....Anyone know what this is? and why the hell was he wearing this at the gun show?

Linh 10-07-2012 4:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt1984 (Post 9471488)
I saw a older gentleman and that is being conservative wearing ACU's with E-5 rank, 101st patch airborne and air assault badges on. But the kicker was instead of US Army name tape it said some stuff like SGCA or SCGA....Anyone know what this is? and why the hell was he wearing this at the gun show?

Southern CA Golf Association?

Well people wear stuff like that cause they wanna be cool looking. I'm gonna guess that he's a poser and didn't wanna overdo it so he just had the air assault badge.

I'm most likely half the guys age and my uniform is in the back of my closet.

Stan08 10-07-2012 7:35 PM

http://www.socal-militia.com
http://www.socalmilitia.org
http://www.modernmilitiamovement.com...-state-militia





I saw and talked to them too, check out the above links and judge for yourselves.

jmsenk 10-07-2012 7:46 PM

...Curious. I kinda get the idea behind it, but there has the potential for a lot to be lost in execution.

Matt1984 10-07-2012 7:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan08 (Post 9473237)
http://www.socal-militia.com
http://www.socalmilitia.org
http://www.modernmilitiamovement.com...-state-militia





I saw and talked to them too, check out the above links and judge for yourselves.

OMG! :facepalm:

Matt1984 10-07-2012 7:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmsenk (Post 9473318)
...Curious. I kinda get the idea behind it, but there has the potential for a lot to be lost in execution.

Yea I understand being proud of our nation, I sure as hell am proud of this wonderful nation, but your exactly right. Their ultimate "vision" is kind of skeptical and could be called a radical milita

EvoXRiley 10-07-2012 8:44 PM

i get it, but its too far for me when you gotta dress up and crap just to go practice shooting and run drills.

cargo pants work just fine,then they have the whole rank thing .. idk

mk3mitch 10-08-2012 7:48 AM

That L shaped ambush was SWEET! They did it just like the book! haha.... :shifty:

NastyNate 10-08-2012 8:02 AM

I think I saw these same cats. It was an older white dude and a latino youngster. They were recruiting for their militia.

Stan08 10-08-2012 8:06 AM

If this were my ship...

*Eliminate the term "militia"; it's now become a dirty word. Community Watch is just as good.

*No cammies in public...ever. Polo shirts and cargo pants are sharper looking in the public eye. If I were a legitimate Army dog (Active, Guard/Reserve, or former) I would take offense to them wearing my uniform especially those with facial hair etc.

Otherwise I get where they are coming from but their appearance and approach is on the provocative side.

Edited to add: Also in addition to the kinetic stuff (shooting stuff up) I would do some non-kinetic humanitarian ops to keep favor in the public eye (feed the homeless, habitat for humanity, etc.) Otherwise you look like a bunch of dudes in cammies, shooting stuff up and waiting for the takeover.

1lostinspace 10-08-2012 8:07 AM

I don't get why people catch crap for wearing camo it's a gun show besides it part of our culture. Embrace it you never know maybe his son served.

angrypeccary 10-08-2012 9:23 AM

nope i saw the two guys you guys are talking about the younger guy was wearing od jungle boots. i dont think the kid served in any branch except for halo or cod.

Packy14 10-08-2012 9:27 AM

rag-tag. too much attention drawing.

Matt1984 10-08-2012 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan08 (Post 9475329)
If this were my ship...

*Eliminate the term "militia"; it's now become a dirty word. Community Watch is just as good.

*No cammies in public...ever. Polo shirts and cargo pants are sharper looking in the public eye. If I were a legitimate Army dog (Active, Guard/Reserve, or former) I would take offense to them wearing my uniform especially those with facial hair etc.

Otherwise I get where they are coming from but their appearance and approach is on the provocative side.



-Well put sir

brando 10-08-2012 11:33 AM

But frankly, as soldiers and former soldiers, we see this through a different lens than the average civilian. The uniform means more to us.

Matt1984 10-08-2012 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brando (Post 9476421)
But frankly, as soldiers and former soldiers, we see this through a different lens than the average civilian. The uniform means more to us.

again well put........I have (like many of us and our wonderful founding fathers) have fought in these uniforms they wear, I have seen my comrades die in the uniform they are disgracing. I have no problem with the average civilian wearing camo hiking or going to the range, I do have an issue when they have that american flag on the right shoulder or unit patches on reenacting Red Dawn in the desert.

paul0660 10-08-2012 12:57 PM

Costumes. At least bikers have bikes to go with their costumes.

mk3mitch 10-08-2012 2:15 PM

Some of these guys might be prior service. A few had combat patches on, at least I HOPE they are prior service if they're wearing those.

SoCal_Sapper 10-08-2012 2:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan08 (Post 9473237)
...
I saw and talked to them too, check out the above links and judge for yourselves.

It's a free country I guess.

tuna quesadilla 10-08-2012 2:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan08 (Post 9473237)
http://www.socal-militia.com
http://www.socalmilitia.org
http://www.modernmilitiamovement.com...-state-militia





I saw and talked to them too, check out the above links and judge for yourselves.

Pathetic.

Doheny 10-08-2012 2:32 PM

The video sorta looks like militia training to me:

Quote:

11460. (a) Any two or more persons who assemble as a paramilitary
organization for the purpose of practicing with weapons shall be
punished by imprisonment in a county jail for not more than one year
or by a fine of not more than one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by
both that fine and imprisonment
.

PC 11460

jmsenk 10-08-2012 2:45 PM

Yeah, the patches kinda rubbed me the wrong way too. If a guy was 82nd Airborne in vietnam or panama, and he throws their patch on his kit while messing around in the desert, then im cool with it. All the Way, paratrooper. But if a 300lb 20yr old who calls MOLLE "mole" gear (yes, I have heard that) is wearing 10th Mountain or 2ID. On his sleeve because it looks cool, then we might have some words. Now those words may be "ya know, my brother was 2ID." "Really? Mine too, that's why i have the patch!" I can understand, but there may need to be some clarification. Hell, I remember the Marines not wanting their terps or corpsmen wearing MARPAT for a while (they have sense relented, and i doubt it was ever enforced) so i'd imagine they'd be upset about civilian militias rocking it.

What's wrong with OD or Khaki carhart?

stitch_paradox 10-08-2012 3:02 PM

What's up with civilians' (those who never served) fascination of wearing cammies in public? I mean if you really like wearing tactical gear and uniforms why not just join the military? To me regardless of your reason if you never served you don't rate to wear a military uniform, you're a wannabe poser if you do.

Glock31B 10-08-2012 3:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmsenk (Post 9477761)
Yeah, the patches kinda rubbed me the wrong way too. If a guy was 82nd Airborne in vietnam or panama, and he throws their patch on his kit while messing around in the desert, then im cool with it. All the Way, paratrooper. But if a 300lb 20yr old who calls MOLLE "mole" gear (yes, I have heard that) is wearing 10th Mountain or 2ID. On his sleeve because it looks cool, then we might have some words. Now those words may be "ya know, my brother was 2ID." "Really? Mine too, that's why i have the patch!" I can understand, but there may need to be some clarification. Hell, I remember the Marines not wanting their terps or corpsmen wearing MARPAT for a while (they have sense relented, and i doubt it was ever enforced) so i'd imagine they'd be upset about civilian militias rocking it.

What's wrong with OD or Khaki carhart?


+1
Well Said

Matt1984 10-08-2012 4:17 PM

I wonder if these dump stains know we are talking about them

jmsenk 10-08-2012 5:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt1984 (Post 9478334)
I wonder if these dump stains know we are talking about them

A militia of wannabes the subject of conversation for a group of professional soldiers and veterans? They'd likely be flattered.

11Bforme 10-08-2012 9:54 PM

I love the concept of people teaching other people something they have little to no knowledge about, for a mission that they are in no way qualified for, using a rank structure based on god knows what.

SuperSet 10-08-2012 10:19 PM

Don't care what anyone wears. You'd have a heart attack if you saw what airsoft kids wear!

comblock 10-08-2012 10:27 PM

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/a.../t-621590.html

:dupe:

bubbagump 10-08-2012 11:34 PM

Similar thread regarding "Fortress America"

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=514123

Matt1984 10-08-2012 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comblock (Post 9480811)

CSMR are totally different, I've worked with those guys before and they are legit. They have my support 100% They are a state/federal recognized group. The militia weenies we are talking about here are different. Don't get the two mixed.....the CSMR support this wonderful nation. The other dudes pray for our nation to slip up so they can get crazy with their bullet button ar's

SA227driver 10-08-2012 11:49 PM

I saw the same older gentleman in ACUs talking to the guy at the "Mag Magnet" booth. It made me mad seeing that guy their trying to push his worthless product. I wish I still had a "Stop SB249" flyer and slam it right on his booth. I saw him violate CA Assault Weapon laws about a dozen times, with that stupid magnet over the BB.

SoCal_Sapper 10-09-2012 6:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperSet (Post 9480774)
Don't care what anyone wears. You'd have a heart attack if you saw what airsoft kids wear!

Seriously dude, I cant stand those ****ing airsoft goons.

Glock31B 10-09-2012 7:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal_Sapper (Post 9481770)
Seriously dude, I cant stand those ****ing airsoft goons.



O but they are hardcore individuals, they got all there training from halo and cod. There trained on all sorts of weapon systems......
:D:D:D:D

Capt_Communist 10-09-2012 10:34 AM

OMG i wana join....

todd2968 10-09-2012 10:48 AM

Wolverine!!!!!!! WTF really. Speechless (which don't happen very often)
Hate to say it but I've seen some reserve units who were very close.

HK35 10-09-2012 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan08 (Post 9475329)
If this were my ship...

*Eliminate the term "militia"; it's now become a dirty word. Community Watch is just as good.

*No cammies in public...ever. Polo shirts and cargo pants are sharper looking in the public eye. If I were a legitimate Army dog (Active, Guard/Reserve, or former) I would take offense to them wearing my uniform especially those with facial hair etc.

Otherwise I get where they are coming from but their appearance and approach is on the provocative side.

Edited to add: Also in addition to the kinetic stuff (shooting stuff up) I would do some non-kinetic humanitarian ops to keep favor in the public eye (feed the homeless, habitat for humanity, etc.) Otherwise you look like a bunch of dudes in cammies, shooting stuff up and waiting for the takeover.

Well said, Stan! :iagree:

SuperSet 10-09-2012 1:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal_Sapper (Post 9481770)
Seriously dude, I cant stand those ****ing airsoft goons.

:shuriken:

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs25/i/20...by_TheTomi.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3567/...881006d4_b.jpg

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...8&d=1321912305

SoCal_Sapper 10-09-2012 1:44 PM

That dude above must have the biggest **** in his pants in that picture.

chris 10-09-2012 1:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brando (Post 9476421)
But frankly, as soldiers and former soldiers, we see this through a different lens than the average civilian. The uniform means more to us.

I agree.


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