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imtheomegaman 09-22-2012 10:40 AM

Update: Home AC Died, Need Advice
 
Looking for advice. Seems my AC compressor died this morning. Can anyone give me any advice.


Will I need to replace the whole unit or can I just replace the pump?

Can I replace the compressor myself? Im fairly handy, but no experience with AC units.

Anyone have a reference for a tech in the Azusa/Glendora/LaVerne area?

xXx Sir Sik xXx 09-22-2012 11:22 AM

Are you sure it is the compressor?? It could be the capacitor?? Is the fan still running when it's calling for cooling???

glockman19 09-22-2012 12:36 PM

Again...are you sure it its the compressor? Mine had issues a moth ago and was the cellinoid...another at my apartment building was both the cellinoid and motherboard,,,

PM me and I'll give you my guy's number...He's in Burbank. Might be able to assist you.

INBOUND PM

Eirerogue 09-22-2012 12:41 PM

Don't rush to replace the compressor until you get a second opinion. Also, the new compressor will have only a year warranty vs. a new unit. But the new unit cost is at least double the compressor cost. My compressor just went during the heat spell and it was tough getting it replaced. Good luck!

imtheomegaman 09-22-2012 12:53 PM

Thanks guys, PM's responded to.

I'm not sure how to isolate the problem. Just going on gut, based on the sound it makes before it blows the fuse. Sounds like an electric motor trying to start then shut off.

glockman19 09-22-2012 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imtheomegaman (Post 9375893)
Thanks guys, PM's responded to.

I'm not sure how to isolate the problem. Just going on gut, based on the sound it makes before it blows the fuse. Sounds like an electric motor trying to start then shut off.

Sounds like a Celliniod...a $300-$400 repair.

Sunday 09-22-2012 1:22 PM

I just call the guy.

Baconator 09-22-2012 1:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunday (Post 9376044)
I just call the guy.

which guy?

him?

Or do you "call a guy," and he delivers concrete galoshes to sleep with the fishes?

Mikeb 09-22-2012 1:45 PM

Don't worry... be happy today is the first day of fall...

imtheomegaman 09-22-2012 8:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunday (Post 9376044)
I just call the guy.

lolwut

what is the number of this mysterious "the guy"

imtheomegaman 09-22-2012 8:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikeb (Post 9376178)
Don't worry... be happy today is the first day of fall...

and it feels like 1000 degrees up in here

Socalmp5 09-23-2012 10:13 PM

Pm postal. Hes a great home ac guy.

mvanmetertoo 09-24-2012 12:57 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCE1ovXHEXA

If you don't have a multimeter, don't have experience with electricity, and/or don't know that a capacitor can zap you unless you discharge it, you would be better off calling "a guy". You don't want to electrocute yourself at any cost.

CowboyRob 09-29-2012 8:55 AM

Ok if your compressor is bad you cant replace it yourself without 1. the compressor which you cant get at home depot or any other place that will sell parts to anyone without a license. you have to be certified to use the freon. 2. can you weld with an acetelyne torch? Do you have a vacuum pump? 3. do you have a gauge setup to make sure you can pull a vacuum? If you have the ability to do these things do you have access to freon and the knowledge on how to properly charge your system and a way to check your super heat and sub cooling to verify you have the charge correct?

I understand that it is expensive to have a repairman do this for you but the average handyman cant do much with an ac system except maybe change the thermostat and the air filter. Possibly the capacitor if it is obviously popped. Even a cap can be iffy if he doesnt get the right size.

Now you said it pops the breaker when it tries to start. That leads me to believe that you have a direct short to ground somewhere in your compressor. If that is the case it will never run again and you will either need to replace it or the entire condensing unit. You can't just buy these parts they are obtained through hvac distributors and they wont sell to an unlicensed individual.

Get several estimates before you have someone do it the price ranges could be significant. If you have the money replace the whole condensing unit as you will get a new warranty with it. how old is the rest of the system? if it is 20 years old i would recommend replacing the entire system if at all possible. if you ust replace the condensing unit and your indoor coil goes bad in say a year that money is wasted considering they dont make r-22 (which i am assuming is the refrigerant you have.) coils any more. so replace the condenser and the coil goes out means replacing the condensing unit again. Double whammy!

There you go advice from someone who works in this business every day. Not some handyman that thinks because they know a capacitor starts stuff in the there they are an ac tech.

CowboyRob 09-29-2012 9:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glockman19 (Post 9375906)
Sounds like a Celliniod...a $300-$400 repair.

What the hell is a cellinoid????? :confused:

imtheomegaman 10-01-2012 7:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CowboyRob (Post 9420274)
What the hell is a cellinoid????? :confused:

The common misspelling for solenoid?

imtheomegaman 10-01-2012 7:25 PM

CowboyRob:

Not sure, but it seems you took offense to me trying to fix something myself. I'm very aware of my limitations, but on many occasions have been able to fix something, that would have cost a lot of money if I had gone straight to a pro.

Also seems that you are offended at others offering advice. None of that advice was poor, and was asked for by me.

Sorry it ticked you off. I respect hard working pro's.

Ok now that that is out of the way:

Turns out, it was two AA batteries in my thermostat. I would have kept that to myself to hide my shame, but I hope someone is saved the frustration by trying such a simple remedy.

Embarrassed that I suffered for this many days in the heat, glad it didn't cost me an arm and a leg.

Am3n 10-01-2012 8:51 PM

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Lumpy8 11-23-2012 6:59 PM

Sorry, I don't believe it!

There is no way in hell that dead batteries in the thermostat will cause a 50 amp breaker to trip, no way!

The AA batteries ONLY provide back up to keep memory in the stat! They don't provide energy for anything else, Period!

GixxerGuy 11-24-2012 8:44 AM

I call BS as well... IF as previously mentioned that the circuit breaker was tripping. Batteries in the thermostat??? Cmon, first of all the thermostat is part of the low voltage (24volt) circuitry, not the line voltage (240v for condesor or 120v for furnace).

If you cant/didn't figure out the problem on your own, don't be ashamed. We get calls all the time from doctors, lawyers, engineers etc.... They just don't have the tools we do, nor the knowledge or access to parts.

If the circuit breaker is tripping rather quickly, its most likely a short to ground, either from the compressor, the fan motor, or even just in the wiring (in the walls, or the unit). Just call a few local companies and if you have any further questions shoot me a PM.

imtheomegaman 11-26-2012 3:59 PM

You guys force me to embarrass myself further.

Why the hell would I make any of this up. I never said 50 amp breaker :rolleyes:. I said fuse, big difference.

That being said, the fuse was never bad. Just the fuse operator (Me: dorkious mandous).

It was indeed the stupid batteries in my thermostat that made me BELIEVE I had an AC problem.

Sheesh "I call bs", "I don't believe it": relax guys.


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