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straykiller 05-17-2011 6:08 PM

PSL Pistol Build Thread!!(TEST FIRE VIDEO UP!!!!!!!!!ON POST 7)
 
I decided I would make a build thread for my PSL pistol build now that I am somewhat close to finishing it. The receiver is just about completed, the barrel has been cut and re-profiled, the gas piston has been cut to size and piston head drilled out and will be welded on Thursday along with the newly sized gas tube by a friend who is a much more skilled welder than I am. Pictures are below of some of the steps (some things I forgot to photograph).

Cold Steel solutions 80% blank
I am about 85% done with the receiver portion; it took a lot of grinding and a lot of elbow grease with a file to get everything to fit in place. I still need to heat treat the axis pin holes (I just remembered :shock:) and a few other little things and ill be ready to start riveting.

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...r/IMG_0252.jpg

Safety selector hole took a lot of filing but came out very nice
http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...r/IMG_0254.jpg

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...r/IMG_0256.jpg

Cutting, Filing and grinding out the magazine area (makes me wish I had a mill, it would have been so much easier and faster lol).
http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...r/IMG_0304.jpg

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...r/IMG_0305.jpg

straykiller 05-17-2011 6:09 PM

Gas piston work
After measuring and marking the piston where I needed to cut it I threw it on the lathe. Once cut I took the piece with the piston head attached and removed it the same way and then cleaned the face of the cut up. After that was done I put the piston head in the lathe and began to drill it out so it could be reattached to the shortened piston rod.

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_0318.jpg

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_0320.jpg

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_0329.jpg

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_0331.jpg

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_0334.jpg

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_0340.jpg

straykiller 05-17-2011 6:10 PM

Gas Piston Continued

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_0337.jpg

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_0338.jpg

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...n/IMG_0339.jpg

straykiller 05-17-2011 6:11 PM

Barrel chopping and profiling
The barrel is now 12 inchís, I took a hack saw to it and threw it on my little 9X20 lathe to clean up the cut and begin re-profiling it. It took me quite some time to do, I took my time this was my first time using a lathe really and I didnít want to screw up the barrel or the lathe I just bought. The finished product came out great and I am very happy with it.

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...r/IMG_0216.jpg



http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...r/IMG_0221.jpg

Gas Tube

I donít have any pictures right now. I will get some during the welding and update the thread.

straykiller 05-17-2011 6:12 PM

Trigger hole cut and guard riveted

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...r/6a5525bb.jpg

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...r/b1032000.jpg

Mock up after front trunnion/center support/ and trigger guard riveted.

i need to do a little bit more work to the rear stiffening plates tomorrow before riveting. one thats done the receiver portion will be complete. then i will be working on modifying the original stock and press the barrel in.

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...r/dbd37af1.jpg

straykiller 05-17-2011 6:13 PM

UPDATE(98% Done!!)
 
Zero round sled installed permanently, complete riveting, head spaced and pinned, furniture cut and partially shaped, railed forearm ground and modified to fit larger barrel(2 hours or grinding and filing:cool2:). internals installed and functioning.

98% compleated, all thats left is to finish shaping the wooden furnature, pin the populated barrel, and covert from a single shot pistol to a semi-auto and it will be ready for the test fire, wood refinishing and other cosmetic details will come after..


What do you guys think for a finish, Park it? or Chrome it? hmmmmmmm help me out.


http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...r/f862cc71.jpg

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...r/e3f32c78.jpg

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straykiller 05-17-2011 6:13 PM

Test firing Video.....this thing throws fireballs. its now one of my favorites to shoot check it out in all its awesomeness...




Finally Finished

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...r/IMG_1006.jpg

s30 05-17-2011 6:22 PM

So useless and I love it.

WTSGDYBBR 05-17-2011 6:26 PM

Nice work like the concept on a monster riffle

Rooftop Voter 05-17-2011 6:43 PM

Hey at least if you don't hit what you are aiming at - then it will die from 3rd degree powder burns! Can't wait to see the finished build!!!

Noobert 05-17-2011 6:47 PM

Can't wait to see the completed build

Full Clip 05-17-2011 6:58 PM

Can't wait to see the fireball.

RLTW 05-17-2011 6:58 PM

Thats Awesome... Talk about a hand cannon.. :66:

Can't wait to see the final project.

Gio 05-17-2011 7:10 PM

I Love it! Have yet to see one in the flesh, but I have fired a FAL Pistol and it was quite fun :43:

tujungatoes 05-17-2011 7:35 PM

.....:43:

straykiller 05-17-2011 7:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tujungatoes (Post 6417579)
.....:43:

lol thanks again for the center support measurements , i drilled those holes today when i was doing the piston work.

wilit 05-17-2011 8:22 PM

The Obrez ain't got nothing on this thing! That's going to be awesome. Cool pics man.

big103 05-17-2011 11:00 PM

Dude looks like it will be awesome when done. Nice work.

247Nino 05-18-2011 1:23 AM

Oh my, this will be awesome.

test fire footage is mandatory

ptoguy2002 05-18-2011 7:21 AM

I appreciate people posting build pics, but please, just be sure that you don't get cheap imported 7.62R ammo banned for the rest of us because you posted pics of your pistol on the internet.
General rule: If you build a 5.45 or 7.62R pistol, do not post pics of it on the internet.

kingmoochr 05-18-2011 8:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptoguy2002 (Post 6420371)
I appreciate people posting build pics, but please, just be sure that you don't get cheap imported 7.62R ammo banned for the rest of us because you posted pics of your pistol on the internet.
General rule: If you build a 5.45 or 7.62R pistol, do not post pics of it on the internet.

:TFH:

ptoguy2002 05-18-2011 8:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingmoochr (Post 6420669)
:TFH:

It is not :TFH: if it has happened before.
See http://www.thegunzone.com/762x39.html.

straykiller 05-18-2011 9:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptoguy2002 (Post 6420371)
I appreciate people posting build pics, but please, just be sure that you don't get cheap imported 7.62R ammo banned for the rest of us because you posted pics of your pistol on the internet.
General rule: If you build a 5.45 or 7.62R pistol, do not post pics of it on the internet.

the mods can remove the thread if they feel it necessary.

timdps 05-18-2011 10:19 AM

Obrez Model 2011!

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilit (Post 6417953)
The Obrez ain't got nothing on this thing! That's going to be awesome. Cool pics man.


safaridave 05-18-2011 10:28 AM

Beejeezum! Way. Cool.

SamsDX 05-18-2011 11:33 AM

I've read about that whole "armor piercing ammunition" fiasco before on AKforum. While I understand doing everything possible to avoid a repeat history, I think it was just a confluence of unfortunate circumstances - with most of the blame falling on the rogue ATF agent who, without legal authority, made the pronouncement. It took some time and threats of legal action, but it was ultimately reversed. Thinking back to 1993/1994, there was a flurry of anti-firearms activity in the executive branch and the legislative branch, and this was just another in a long series of bad laws/enforcement actions.

Practically speaking, I don't see how one person's home build will upset the status quo when it comes to the classification of x54R and 5.45x39 ammunition as "armor piercing" and banned from importation. With some effort, a handgun can be made to fire any ammunition, so the ATF's interpretation and definition is unworkable. I'm not sure that the ATF will want to revisit this issue again when they've already implicitly acknowledged that the earlier interpretation was wrong.

Also, the 1994 ATF pronouncement specifically mentioned production and introducing into the marketplace as being the reason for the re-classification. The rogue agent attempted to clarify this by arguing that the it was because the AK pistol was "offered for sale" (rather than sold in the marketplace), but even under this interpretation, I don't think a home build would constitute that, by any stretch of the imagination.

In any case - this pistol PSL is pretty cool! I've always wanted to build an Obrez, but this may be more of a possibility - I don't know the first thing about welding, much less re-welding a Mosin receiver.

Ryan in SD 05-18-2011 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptoguy2002 (Post 6420371)
I appreciate people posting build pics, but please, just be sure that you don't get cheap imported 7.62R ammo banned for the rest of us because you posted pics of your pistol on the internet.
General rule: If you build a 5.45 or 7.62R pistol, do not post pics of it on the internet.

This is ridiculous, its not 1994 anymore and there are tons of forums of people showing their pistol builds.

Also, hurry up witht he pics :)

Fern 05-18-2011 11:04 PM

Very nice, and congrats on the mill.

straykiller 05-18-2011 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fern (Post 6427035)
Very nice, and congrats on the mill.

Dont have a mill yet just got a little lathe, a mill is at the top of my machinery to get list lol..

Thanks for all the positive posts guys i plan on having it compleated soon and will have video footage of the test fire. Im planning on welding the piston and gas tube tomorrow.

ptoguy2002 05-19-2011 9:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan in SD (Post 6426862)
This is ridiculous, its not 1994 anymore and there are tons of forums of people showing their pistol builds.

It is not my intent to be the forum A-hole or :TFH:er.
Like I said, I appreciate people posting build pics. The galil re-weld thread was awesome.
Enough other people who are more knowledgeable on the subject than me (or you) think it is an issue best not brought up, and enough so that it is a taboo subject on other boards.
I spoke in person with the K-var guy, forget his name, at the SAR show a few years ago about it when they were selling krink kits, and he certainly seemed very, very concerned about it.

kingmoochr 05-19-2011 10:27 AM

Yes, because he is a business selling them, not an individual constructing them in his house. If someone were to begin selling them for profit, we would most likely have a similar problem. These are built for personal use (as a homebuild can't be built with the intent to sell).

Ryan in SD 05-19-2011 12:59 PM

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...r/IMG_0304.jpg

Man, remember when in my thread I said to hack off those tall rail sections!!

Coulda saved yourself a lot of work! :rolleyes:

I have a mill but the reason why I didnt get it to the correct size was because it doesnt say anything about it binding with the mag in the instructions :mad:

I hate to say it man but you may be in for the same pita issues I was having with the mag fit once you get it all riveted together.

Ryan in SD 05-19-2011 1:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptoguy2002 (Post 6428936)
It is not my intent to be the forum A-hole or :TFH:er.
Like I said, I appreciate people posting build pics. The galil re-weld thread was awesome.
Enough other people who are more knowledgeable on the subject than me (or you) think it is an issue best not brought up, and enough so that it is a taboo subject on other boards.
I spoke in person with the K-var guy, forget his name, at the SAR show a few years ago about it when they were selling krink kits, and he certainly seemed very, very concerned about it.

So you suggest we run and hide with our hobbies under a rock and hope we dont get spotted? I think the problem is people need balls and stare the problem face to face, go to court, get votes, and be more direct and proactive.

straykiller 05-19-2011 1:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan in SD (Post 6430223)
http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/...r/IMG_0304.jpg

Man, remember when in my thread I said to hack off those tall rail sections!!

Coulda saved yourself a lot of work! :rolleyes:

I have a mill but the reason why I didnt get it to the correct size was because it doesnt say anything about it binding with the mag in the instructions :mad:

I hate to say it man but you may be in for the same pita issues I was having with the mag fit once you get it all riveted together.

WTF U SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME!!!!!!
hahaha jk.
i agree though, nowhere did it say that the magazine would bind with the rails, thats the way they were shown to be cut by a few different places so thats the way i did it. and i did experience the problems it took quite some time with a dremel to get the mag to fit right. it may get worse again once riveted but it wont take long to fix it again since i removed allot of material the first time.

straykiller 05-23-2011 1:09 AM

bump for an update

Ryan in SD 05-23-2011 2:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by straykiller (Post 6430342)
WTF U SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME!!!!!!
hahaha jk.
i agree though, nowhere did it say that the magazine would bind with the rails, thats the way they were shown to be cut by a few different places so thats the way i did it. and i did experience the problems it took quite some time with a dremel to get the mag to fit right. it may get worse again once riveted but it wont take long to fix it again since i removed allot of material the first time.

Im going to send the list of fixes needed to their instructions. My 2nd PSL blank came last week, been taking lots of measurements of the fire control group and other areas.

I hope you didnt use their fcg hole locations.

I'm setting my trigger hole back from the hammer an extra .108" and the safety an extra X" from whats on their sheet.

Edit

general_disarray_prk 05-23-2011 9:41 AM

Imagine lighting one off at dusk and the resulting fireball that mo-fo's gonna' throw ;-)

Love it - 10's across the board!

Milspec714 05-23-2011 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingmoochr (Post 6429104)
Yes, because he is a business selling them, not an individual constructing them in his house. If someone were to begin selling them for profit, we would most likely have a similar problem. These are built for personal use (as a homebuild can't be built with the intent to sell).

:iagree: if your scared dont read...

and man this AK build is friggin awesome... need to jump over to the other side of the build world and start doing AK's....

4thSBCT 05-23-2011 11:23 AM

WTF......how have I missed this thread? That is one kosher little project you've got going there. Can't wait to see more. Be sure to post some videos shooting at night!

hellraiser 05-23-2011 3:17 PM

Yes!!! This is awesome... Pics and YouTube videos a must!!!


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