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beemaze 12-29-2010 3:12 PM

Out of State, California "Friendly" Ammunition Dealers starting 2/1/11
 
I'm trying to start a list of CA friendly ammunition dealers (and the non friendly ones too). The list is not intended to badmouth one particular dealer or another, but more to see who is willing to listen and deal with CA's idiotic ammunition law and others who simply don't want to deal period.

So far this is what I have confirmed:

Willing to ship rifle ammunition to CA (whatever rifle ammunition is defined as):

BuffaloArms
Century International Arms
Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Dan's Sporting Goods
Exile Machine LLC
Georgia Arms
Glen's Outdoors
Graf & Sons
J&G Sales
Midsouth Shooters Supply
Military Shooters
RM Ammo
SG Ammo



Willing to ship handgun ammo (and rifle) to "exempt" citizens of CA (i.e. C&R FFL holders with CA DOJ COE, LEO's, CA FFL's):



Century International Arms
Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Dan's Sporting Goods
Exile Machine LLC
Georgia Arms
Graf & Sons
J&G Sales
Midsouth Shooters Supply
Military Shooters
Palmetto State Armory


NOT shipping ANY loaded ammo to CA:

Ammoman.com
Ammunition To Go
Cabela's
Cheaper than Dirt
Dillon Precision
MidwayUSA
Powder Valley Inc.
Sportsman's Guide
Surplus Ammo
USA Ammo




Will not ship reloading components to California:

Cheaper Than Dirt
Dillon Precision (Bullets (projectiles))
Palmetto State Armory







Please add to the list as you confirm with each vendor or have some sort of written statement or advert. I'll try to maintain it over time. Also, if you have information contrary to the above list, please provide documentation.

tacticalfire 12-29-2010 8:44 PM

USA Ammo / usaammo.com will not be shipping any ammo to CA starting on Jan 1st. Info received via-email.

jwest 12-29-2010 10:33 PM

Pretty sure PVI will:

www.powdervalleyinc.com

Here is the e-mail that I sent on 12/22/10:

PVI,

Will I still be able to order projectiles from you guys after 2/1/11?

For instance, I have ordered Hornady .44M and .50 AE bullets (projectiles) from you - AB 962 refers to loaded handgun ammo - not components.

Some suppliers are applying very liberal interpretations of the law and not shipping anything that has to do with handgun ammo.

What say 'ye?

Thanks And Happy Holidays,
John W.
San Jose, Commiefornia

This is the response I got from PVI on 12/23/10 - which was posted in a thread on this exact topic previous to this thread:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=376113

John,

We are keeping an eye on this issue.
As of this time we will plan to continue shipping all components to California.
There have been several actions in process to clarify things but nothing concrete has developed.

Thanks

John

Powder Valley
800-227-4299

ronas 12-30-2010 3:32 AM

You might want to check Georgia Arms.
http://georgia-arms.com/

beemaze 12-30-2010 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwest (Post 5525865)
Pretty sure PVI will:

www.powdervalleyinc.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronas (Post 5526358)
You might want to check Georgia Arms.
http://georgia-arms.com/

I have contacted both of these vendors and am awaiting a response. It would be helpful if you contact vendors not mentioned/listed yourselves so as to expedite the updating of this list.

Regards.

beemaze 12-30-2010 2:55 PM

Response from Powder Valley
 
xxxxxxx, we are aware of the law. However, we are still waiting for a
specific interpretation from the California DOJ. We can sell to you at this
time but until we receive a written interpretation from the California DOJ I
am unable to commit to purchases beyond Feb 1.

Thanks

John

Powder Valley
800-227-4299

Exile Machine 12-30-2010 3:07 PM

You can put Exile Machine LLC under both categories:

Willing to ship rifle ammunition to CA (whatever rifle ammunition is defined as):

Willing to ship handgun and rifle ammo to "exempt" citizens of CA (i.e. C&R FFL holders with CA DOJ COE, LEO's, CA FFL's):

We'll also ship as much pistol ammo as we can to anyone legally allowed to receive it, right up to the deadline.

-Mark

beemaze 12-30-2010 4:24 PM

Response from AIM Surplus
 
From: AIM Surplus <sales@aimsurplus.com>
To: Beemaze
Sent: Thu, December 30, 2010 4:48:02 PM
Subject: Re: Ammunition Sales to CA after 2/1/11

We have not yet made a decision about AB962. We are hoping that pending litigation will make a need to make such a decision moot. We'll have a decision before 1 Feb.

Thanks,

Stephen

devilinblack 12-30-2010 4:51 PM

SGAMMO responded to my email about this very quickly and said they'll still be selling what is listed as rifle and shotgun ammo on their site to CA. Once things settle down they'll look into the 03 FFL and CoE exemptions.

beemaze 12-30-2010 9:00 PM

Daniel Tobin from Dan's Sporting Goods emailed me tonight and said he will ship all ammo to AB962 exempt persons.

TNP'R 12-30-2010 9:33 PM

When i go to cheaper than dirt and type in my area code it says they are able to ship to my area code.I'm fixing to find out if cabela's is cool with sending ammo to CA i ordered some .22LR early on the 29th and the order is still processing which is odd usually when i order online it process's within a few minutes.

beemaze 12-31-2010 7:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TNP'R (Post 5530986)
When i go to cheaper than dirt and type in my area code it says they are able to ship to my area code.

Might want to read this thread re: Cheaper Than Dirt

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=377218

beemaze 12-31-2010 7:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronas (Post 5526358)
You might want to check Georgia Arms.
http://georgia-arms.com/

RE: Ammo sales to CA
...
From:
Georgia Arms <gaarms@bellsouth.net>
...
Add to Contacts
To: Beemaze

We will continue to sell to anyone meeting legal requirements, thanks

beemaze 12-31-2010 7:35 AM

Re: Ammunition Sales to CA after 2/1/11
...
From:
Ammunition To Go - Sales <sales@ammunitiontogo.com>
...
Add to Contacts
To: Beemaze


bullets.jpg (15KB) View Image
Yes sir, we will continue shipping to CA until we or told otherwise.


Ammunition To Go - For all of your Ammunition needs!
Ph: (979) 277-9676
Fax: (979) 277-9959

beemaze 01-03-2011 7:47 AM

Response from Wideners
 
Up until the effective date, we will review the bill towards the end of Jan and make a determination of exactly which products we will ship and wonít ship.





WRSSI

Wideners Reloading & Shooting Supply, Inc.

Customer Service

wideners@wideners.com

1-800-615-3006 - Orders

1-423-282-6786 - Support

1-423-282-6651 - fax

www.wideners.com

faveson 01-03-2011 12:57 PM

magazines?
 
are magazines still going to be included in the "ban"? this was in the original version of the bill but i can't find the most amended version.
TIA

beemaze 01-03-2011 9:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faveson (Post 5548344)
are magazines still going to be included in the "ban"? this was in the original version of the bill but i can't find the most amended version.
TIA

There is discussion regarding this matter, here:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=377218

Please try to keep this list "On Topic" for everyone's mutual benefit.

bollero 01-04-2011 5:15 AM

IF there not going to send us ammo.. this law should apply the same to OFFICER (O'MALLEY)aka cops/LOE ... :) .lets see if there not going to like it..

beemaze 01-04-2011 7:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bollero (Post 5552643)
IF there not going to send us ammo.. this law should apply the same to OFFICER (O'MALLEY)aka cops/LOE ... :) .lets see if there not going to like it..

:offtopic:

LEO's who are authorized to carry a duty weapon are exempt from the mail order handgun ammo ban, but again, the purpose of this list is not to discuss the law itself as there are other discussions in this forum regarding this....

Please add to the list only. Thank You.

slowjonn 01-05-2011 11:13 PM

Palmetto State will not ship any ammo or ammo components after the law takes effect. Last day to order is 1/20 iirc.

1970msp 01-06-2011 7:49 AM

I received a response from MIDWAY USA this morning.They informed me that even with my COE and 03 FFL no ammo sales to Ca.

,



"Thank you for your recent email. I apologize, but after January 21, 2011 we will no longer be able to ship any caliber ammunition to California; no matter whether you have an FFL or COE on file. Again, I am sorry for any inconvenience this has caused.



If you have any additional questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at 1-800-243-3220. Our hours of operation are Monday through Friday 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. CT; Saturday and Sunday 9 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. CT. You may also email us at customerservice@midwayusa.com.

Thanks for Your Business!

Felicia
MidwayUSA Customer Service"

Rock6.3 01-06-2011 8:00 AM

For a list of companies that will NOT ship to California please see:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=380846

Please add Civilian Marksmanship Program to the list of companies who WILL ship ammunition to California.

Rock6.3 01-06-2011 8:03 AM

Montanna Gold will ship reloading components:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...1&postcount=23

PLINK 01-06-2011 8:08 AM

OP please add dealers who will or will not sell reloading componets to CA starting 2/1/11. Thank you!

SexualChocolate 01-06-2011 10:36 AM

tagged

Eddie1965 01-06-2011 3:51 PM

Century International will ship to C&R/COE; it's on their website.

Scratch705 01-06-2011 3:55 PM

we should get this thread sticky'ed at the top

killshot44 01-06-2011 4:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemaze (Post 5528870)
xxxxxxx, we are aware of the law. However, we are still waiting for a
specific interpretation from the California DOJ. We can sell to you at this
time but until we receive a written interpretation from the California DOJ I
am unable to commit to purchases beyond Feb 1.

Thanks

John

Powder Valley
800-227-4299

That's weird. John tells me something totally different:


Bob,
As you have stated and as we understand the legislation in itís current form it is applicable to cartridges only.

We will continue to ship components to California until there is an application to components.

Thanks,

John
Powder Valley
800-227-4299

beemaze 01-06-2011 7:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killshot44 (Post 5568776)
That's weird. John tells me something totally different:


Bob,
As you have stated and as we understand the legislation in itís current form it is applicable to cartridges only.

We will continue to ship components to California until there is an application to components.

Thanks,

John
Powder Valley
800-227-4299

John's response to me concerned loaded ammunition only.

Post #1 of the thread has been updated to include those who will not ship components to CA.

Jake71 01-06-2011 8:09 PM

you forgot....


States to avoid paying as much sales tax to, by purchasing EVERYTHING possible, out of state.

California

thrillhouse700 01-07-2011 7:45 AM

Plz update, I emailed RMammo............


"Yes we will still be shipping the items that are not effected by the new law!

Thanks
Russell
Rmammo inc."

Santa Cruz Armory 01-07-2011 7:54 AM

FFL & COE = pistol ammo for me! :D

707electrician 01-07-2011 8:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1970msp (Post 5565414)
I received a response from MIDWAY USA this morning.They informed me that even with my COE and 03 FFL no ammo sales to Ca.

,



"Thank you for your recent email. I apologize, but after January 21, 2011 we will no longer be able to ship any caliber ammunition to California; no matter whether you have an FFL or COE on file. Again, I am sorry for any inconvenience this has caused.



If you have any additional questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at 1-800-243-3220. Our hours of operation are Monday through Friday 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. CT; Saturday and Sunday 9 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. CT. You may also email us at customerservice@midwayusa.com.

Thanks for Your Business!

Felicia
MidwayUSA Customer Service"

That is weird, I thought I remember someone posting on here in another thread that midway would continue to sell rifle ammunition and would honor the 03ffl/coe exemption.


On another note. I emailed sgammo.com and their response was that they would continue to sell rifle ammunition to CA. I also asked them if they would honor the 03ffl/coe exemption on the handgun ammo and they either forgot or neglected to respond to that part. I will be sending a follow up email about that.

Someday 01-07-2011 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLFD1 (Post 5572287)
FFL & COE = pistol ammo for me! :D

If you don't mind,

how much did it cost to get both and what is the process?

CaliforniaLiberal 01-07-2011 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Someday (Post 5573407)
If you don't mind,

how much did it cost to get both and what is the process?


Google is your friend.


Start here at the BATFE. http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/at...16-notice.html


And here's the CA DOJ COE form http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/coeapp.pdf


http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=267367

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Firearms_License

http://www.fflkit.com/?hop=binocs

thrillhouse700 01-07-2011 12:21 PM

Surplus ammo is out of Cali until the bill is overturned also.

"CA RESIDENTS:

Regretfully, due to California's new AB962 our last order accepted for ammunition will be on Tuesday, Jan. 25th at noon Pacific (barring any successful repeal of AB962). Understand this is not expected to be a permanent, absolute stop on ammo shipments to California. Until it is fully determined as to specifically what ammo (i.e. calibers) is allowed and what is banned from shipment into California, we must err on the side of caution until this matter is better defined."

thrillhouse700 01-09-2011 8:34 AM

The armory is also pulling out of California.

My Question........."Will Californians be able to buy Rifle and reloading components from you after AB962 goes into full effect"?
His response....... "On advice of councel will not sir"


There goes another one.

EXTREMEOPS1 01-10-2011 5:03 AM

I'll add Cabelas to your list of not shipping loaded ammo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beemaze (Post 5523565)
I'm trying to start a list of CA friendly ammunition dealers (and the non friendly ones too). The list is not intended to badmouth one particular dealer or another, but more to see who is willing to listen and deal with CA's idiotic ammunition law and others who simply don't want to deal period.

So far this is what I have confirmed:

Willing to ship rifle ammunition to CA (whatever rifle ammunition is defined as):

Ammoman.com
Ammunition To Go
Cabela's
Century International Arms
Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Dan's Sporting Goods
Exile Machine LLC
Georgia Arms
Glen's Outdoors
Graf & Sons
J&G Sales
RM Ammo
SG Ammo



Willing to ship handgun ammo to "exempt" citizens of CA (i.e. C&R FFL holders with CA DOJ COE, LEO's, CA FFL's):


Ammunition To Go
Century International Arms
Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)
Dan's Sporting Goods
Exile Machine LLC
Georgia Arms
Graf & Sons
J&G Sales
Palmetto State Armory






NOT shipping ANY loaded ammo to CA:


Cheaper than Dirt
Dillon Precision
MidwayUSA
Sportsman's Guide
USA Ammo
Powder Valley Inc.
Surplus Ammo
Cabelas see their webpage for CA no ship info


Will not ship reloading components to California:

Dillon Precision (Bullets (projectiles))
Palmetto State Armory
Cheaper Than Dirt






Please add to the list as you confirm with each vendor or have some sort of written statement or advert. I'll try to maintain it over time. Also, if you have information contrary to the above list, please provide documentation.

So are you saying that the above companies will ship to CA residents after the ban comes into force on 2/1/11 ?

slowjonn 01-10-2011 9:51 PM

I'm confused. Palmetto State is listed as willing to ship handgun ammo to exempt persons on the OP's list but not rifle ammo. Their website says no ammo, no components after the 20th???

What's the deal with them? Can someone clarify?

Anchors 01-10-2011 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EXTREMEOPS1 (Post 5589409)
So are you saying that the above companies will ship to CA residents after the ban comes into force on 2/1/11 ?

It clearly states above each list which companies will ship what and to who.


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