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hoffmang 11-27-2010 7:10 PM

Counties with Good Cause statements available
 
The following counties have good cause statements available:
  1. Alameda
  2. Alpine
  3. Colusa
  4. Contra Costa
  5. Glenn
  6. Kings
  7. Marin
  8. Mono
  9. Monterey
  10. Sacramento
  11. San Diego*
  12. San Francisco
  13. San Joaquin
  14. Santa Barbara
  15. Santa Cruz
  16. Sierra
  17. Solano (Renewals Added 2/21/12)
  18. Sonoma
  19. Stanislaus
  20. Ventura
Still to come (* denotes pending litigation):
  1. Amador
  2. Butte
  3. Calaveras
  4. Del Norte
  5. El Dorado
  6. Fresno
  7. Humboldt
  8. Imperial
  9. Inyo
  10. Kern
  11. Lake
  12. Lassen
  13. Los Angeles
  14. Madera
  15. Mariposa
  16. Mendocino
  17. Merced
  18. Modoc
  19. Napa
  20. Nevada
  21. Orange
  22. Placer
  23. Plumas
  24. Riverside
  25. San Benito
  26. San Bernardino
  27. San Luis Obispo
  28. San Mateo
  29. Santa Clara
  30. Shasta
  31. Siskiyou
  32. Sutter
  33. Tehama
  34. Trinity
  35. Tulare
  36. Tuolumne
  37. Yolo *
  38. Yuba

G17GUY 11-27-2010 7:25 PM

I was wondering when we would see a current page. Maybe a "Time to apply" section in list format in this thread?

Awsome work!

Blackhawk556 11-27-2010 11:35 PM

i wonder why the counties that are "pro ccw" are taking this long to release their accepted good cause statements?

ex. kern, fresno, madera, riverside<--??, and several others

armygunsmith 11-27-2010 11:43 PM

This is awesome. Keep up the good work guys!

Paladin 11-30-2010 4:38 PM

Can someone start a separate sticky for counties that have "***Time to Apply!***" status (Sacto, Merced, San Joaquin, etc.)?

Doheny 11-30-2010 4:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoffmang (Post 5361670)
Still to come (* denotes pending litigation):

So what's the story with those that aren't in litigation but show as "still to come." Are they dragging their feet, etc?

Thanks for your hard work Gene, et al.

choprzrul 11-30-2010 4:44 PM

8 down, 50 to go...

**EDIT**
Just went and read a whole bunch of those GC statements. Looks like most places will issue for just about anything! I even saw one that was left blank??? Cronyism at its finest?

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ZombieTactics 11-30-2010 4:55 PM

I sincerely hoping this is not thread-jacking.

Is there some sense in which it could be argued that - if a particular set of GC are accepted in a large number of counties (perhaps even a majority) - that it could be considered unconstitutional (equal protection) to deny in other counties based upon those same GC statements?

wildhawker 11-30-2010 6:24 PM

Not only is the argument weak legally, but it won't matter soon (or at least in a shorter time period than new, costly litigation with an almost certain chance of dismissal). There is plenty of good trouble to cause if patience isn't in the cards.

choprzrul 12-01-2010 5:06 PM

Can you give us a clue on the next handful of counties that will have their GC statements posted?

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obeygiant 12-01-2010 5:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choprzrul (Post 5380412)
Can you give us a clue on the next handful of counties that will have their GC statements posted?

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We are expecting some additional counties to be available today and they will be posted once they have been redacted properly.

Bigtwin 12-01-2010 5:14 PM

I am only waiting for one...Solano!:p

wildhawker 12-01-2010 5:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigtwin (Post 5380463)
I am only waiting for one...Solano!:p

Coming soon!

Soldier415 12-01-2010 7:03 PM

Thanks for the update!

Bigtwin 12-01-2010 7:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildhawker (Post 5380644)
Coming soon!

You don't know how good that sounds!:)

Paladin 12-01-2010 8:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigtwin (Post 5381278)
You don't know how good that sounds!:)

Don't fall for it. "Soon" is interchangeable with "two weeks."

obeygiant 12-01-2010 8:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigtwin (Post 5380463)
I am only waiting for one...Solano!:p

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildhawker (Post 5380644)
Coming soon!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paladin (Post 5381610)
Don't fall for it. "Soon" is interchangeable with "two weeks."

Not in this case, Solano County has just been posted. :43:

Paladin 12-01-2010 9:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by obeygiant (Post 5381640)
Not in this case, Solano County has just been posted. :43:

:eek: :svengo:

In this case, I'm happy to be proven wrong.

Dare I ask: How long until Alameda County? I know, I know: "two weeks."

I'll look like this by the time Ala goes vSI :wheelchair:

wildhawker 12-01-2010 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paladin (Post 5381925)
:eek: :svengo:

In this case, I'm happy to be proven wrong.

Dare I ask: How long until Alameda County? I know, I know: "two weeks."

I'll look like this by the time Ala goes vSI :wheelchair:

Coming soon... :43:

obeygiant 12-01-2010 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paladin (Post 5381925)
:eek: :svengo:

In this case, I'm happy to be proven wrong.

Dare I ask: How long until Alameda County? I know, I know: "two weeks."

I'll look like this by the time Ala goes vSI :wheelchair:

Alameda will take me a bit longer as there are 1322 pages.
Have to:
  1. Identify GC statements
  2. Redact
  3. Assemble and post
I've identified all the GC statements in the first 700 or so pages tonight, hoping to ID the remainder tomorrow. Then onto step 2 & 3.

Soldier415 12-02-2010 12:06 AM

Where is Sonoma on the list of upcoming counties?

wildhawker 12-02-2010 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier415 (Post 5382403)
Where is Sonoma on the list of upcoming counties?

In line for redaction.

Soldier415 12-02-2010 1:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildhawker (Post 5382459)
In line for redaction.

Excellent

dantodd 12-02-2010 1:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier415 (Post 5382403)
Where is Sonoma on the list of upcoming counties?

No longer in line.







Now it is up.

gotgunz 12-02-2010 2:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by obeygiant (Post 5381640)
Not in this case, Solano County has just been posted. :43:

You may have as well put up a blank sheet and run a black marker all over it. That is a huge amount of redaction!

REPR3D 12-02-2010 4:31 AM

Hoffmang, Thank you very much for ALL your helpful post. I have started my ccw process and will be seeing Amber early next year to submit my application.

Paladin 12-02-2010 7:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by obeygiant (Post 5382271)
Alameda will take me a bit longer as there are 1322 pages.
Have to:
  1. Identify GC statements
  2. Redact
  3. Assemble and post
I've identified all the GC statements in the first 700 or so pages tonight, hoping to ID the remainder tomorrow. Then onto step 2 & 3.

You are an awesome FREEDOM MACHINE! ! !

When I went to bed, there were 9 counties' GCs posted. When I wake up, there's 11. That's almost 1/5th of all the counties. I'm feeling like a kid on Christmas finding presents under the tree in the morning!

I THANK YOU ALL, now esp you guys doing the "grunt work" behind the scenes.

For the past 3 yrs I've skipped getting myself anything for Christmas (or my birthday) because Wayne's had sales on supra Life memberships and said they've needed the money (they spent $20M on election campaigns this year alone). Well, I'll skip myself again this year and send CGN and CGF presents for the hard work and "gifts" (unchaining our RKBA in this state), that you have give me.

Thanks again,
"Paladin"

Soldier415 12-02-2010 8:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dantodd (Post 5382514)
No longer in line.







Now it is up.

Excellent!

Just browsed through it, and didnt like what I saw. No a lot of permits issued, and those there were issued were LE or criminal justice system current or former employees, even the ones with specific threats against their lives.

G17GUY 12-02-2010 7:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier415 (Post 5383118)
Excellent!

Just browsed through it, and didnt like what I saw. No a lot of permits issued, and those there were issued were LE or criminal justice system current or former employees, even the ones with specific threats against their lives.

You are right, slim pickins. I wonder if the department submitted certain applications strategically.

choprzrul 12-02-2010 8:12 PM

Cronyism Coverup Wankers


The new CCW...

obeygiant 12-02-2010 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotgunz (Post 5382527)
You may have as well put up a blank sheet and run a black marker all over it. That is a huge amount of redaction!

Agreed, it was very disappointing.

Paladin 12-03-2010 4:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by obeygiant (Post 5382271)
Alameda will take me a bit longer as there are 1322 pages.
Have to:
  1. Identify GC statements
  2. Redact
  3. Assemble and post
I've identified all the GC statements in the first 700 or so pages tonight, hoping to ID the remainder tomorrow. Then onto step 2 & 3.

That gets us to "Good Cause Statements Available." What are the steps required to go from that to "***Time to Apply!***"?

choprzrul 12-03-2010 5:04 PM

can I be of any assistance in helping move SLO to the top column?

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Ford8N 12-03-2010 6:23 PM

I'm not against any CCW good cause statements but I can hear a Sheriff countering all reasons for a CCW. Bank drops at night, Sheriffs answer, don't bank at night. Fear for my life, Sheriffs answer, call 911. I lock up my business at night in a bad area, Sheriffs answer, move. And on and on forever. SLO county will be a tough nut to crack.

BigFatGuy 12-03-2010 6:46 PM

Clearly I need to move to Glenn county. In LA if you put "to conform to the law" the sherriff would ask "what are you doing now that DOESN"T conform to the law?".

Window_Seat 12-03-2010 7:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by obeygiant (Post 5382271)
Alameda will take me a bit longer as there are 1322 pages.
Have to:
  1. Identify GC statements
  2. Redact
  3. Assemble and post
I've identified all the GC statements in the first 700 or so pages tonight, hoping to ID the remainder tomorrow. Then onto step 2 & 3.

WOW!!!! I'm going to be quite busy with all that reading, and I have a feeling it will be quite a large file even after the final steps. :eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paladin (Post 5390813)
That gets us to "Good Cause Statements Available." What are the steps required to go from that to "***Time to Apply!***"?

Very good question! :thumbsup:

Erik.

wildhawker 12-03-2010 11:20 PM

Patience. In addition to the good cause statements coming in, there will be substantial movement on many fronts which we'll share soon.

Paladin 12-04-2010 1:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ford8N (Post 5391474)
I'm not against any CCW good cause statements but I can hear a Sheriff countering all reasons for a CCW. Bank drops at night, Sheriffs answer, don't bank at night. Fear for my life, Sheriffs answer, call 911. I lock up my business at night in a bad area, Sheriffs answer, move. And on and on forever. SLO county will be a tough nut to crack.

Our (CGF's counter): If you accepted that GC from ANYONE similarly situated, you must accept it from us! If not, you'll get a lesson in 14th A Equal Protection law from a federal judge. :43:

Paladin 12-04-2010 1:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildhawker (Post 5392688)
Patience. In addition to the good cause statements coming in, there will be substantial movement on many fronts which we'll share soon.

Sweet! :43:

N6ATF 12-04-2010 4:21 PM

The steamroller is coming! The steamroller is coming!

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