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Gray Peterson 10-15-2010 12:24 AM

Solano - UPDATE (2014 April 12)
 
UPDATE (2014 April 12): post #1082 and after indicate that the SO is issuing CCWs more liberally, but not for mere "self-defense"/"personal protection" yet. So I've just adding a "thumbs up" symbol, but not an Alert symbol or "TIME TO APPLY" to the title.

*****

For a complete copy of the 2008 - 2009 amended Solano Co grand jury findings re. CCWs, go to:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1060361

Here's a link to a local CBS news report ("Lawsuits Prompt Bay Area Sheriffs To Issue Concealed Weapons Permits", 2013 Nov 20) re. the impact of the grand jury findings:

Things changed in 2009, after a grand jury found the Solano County sheriff may have had an “informal policy” of “denying access…and/or discouraging applicants.”

The number of people applying for new concealed carry permits has skyrocketed in Solano County, from 27 in 2011 to 254 so far this year.


http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...apons-permits/

Havoc70 10-18-2010 3:05 PM

Application sent in, note that Solano County only allows two handguns per permit and also charges well over what the state mandates. But I think you already knew that.

Havoc70 10-18-2010 3:36 PM

Also, is there going to be a plan to allow folks to start threads here? Right now it's permission denied.

obeygiant 10-18-2010 4:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Havoc70 (Post 5147689)
Also, is there going to be a plan to allow folks to start threads here? Right now it's permission denied.

Right now it is going to remain limited to the county threads only as we want to keep all of the discussion in its respective thread.

Let's Go Plink 10-26-2010 2:43 AM

Does anyone have any experience attempting to get a CCW permit in Solano County? Or, is Havoc70 the initial "test case"? I read the article about Sacramento Sheriff McGinness changing their standards. Do the folks at CGF have any optimism that other counties will follow suit, or do they believe that most will only give in after the court orders it? Either way, I guess it is a good reason to donate to the Foundation. Thank goodness they will fight to uphold the Constitution, even if some elected officials won't.

RolinCode3 10-26-2010 8:11 PM

I believe PurpleK is in the middle of the process also...there's a thread around here somewhere that he started...

I will be getting mine in shortly.

dantodd 10-26-2010 11:39 PM

Are the folks applying coordinating with Brandon or Gray? It is important that these things be done in certain ways, and that those coordinating the efforts know EXACTLY what is being used as GC etc.

adamsreeftank 10-30-2010 1:01 AM

I'm ready to apply, but I'll wait for word about what is and isn't working. It would also be great if they could clean up that mess of an application.

wildhawker 10-30-2010 2:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamsreeftank (Post 5213534)
I'm ready to apply, but I'll wait for word about what is and isn't working. It would also be great if they could clean up that mess of an application.

I'll be posting the good cause statements soon. Note that the only application you need to complete is this one.

Purple K 11-01-2010 1:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolinCode3 (Post 5194786)
I believe PurpleK is in the middle of the process also...there's a thread around here somewhere that he started...

I will be getting mine in shortly.

So far I've submitted my application, paid my (illegally excessive) fees and submitted to livescan fingerprinting.

Purple K 11-01-2010 1:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dantodd (Post 5195962)
Are the folks applying coordinating with Brandon or Gray? It is important that these things be done in certain ways, and that those coordinating the efforts know EXACTLY what is being used as GC etc.

I shared a rough draft of my G.C. with Brandon and Gray.

97F1504RAD 11-01-2010 6:01 PM

If someone was to have completed the 832PC back in the late 80's at a community college how would one go about getting that proof?

CSDGuy 11-01-2010 6:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 97F1504RAD (Post 5225822)
If someone was to have completed the 832PC back in the late 80's at a community college how would one go about getting that proof?

If the class was supposed to submit a roster to POST, I would think that POST would have your name on file as having attended that that class. You should be able to contact POST and ask them to send a letter regarding what they have on file for you as far as training goes.

97F1504RAD 11-01-2010 6:45 PM

I have no idea if they were required to report it to POST and I do not recall getting any type of certificate.

sar_man 11-01-2010 6:48 PM

When I took my 832 in the early 90s it was a POST approved course and I received certificates

racky 11-01-2010 8:17 PM

tagged

edit: how much are they charging?

Purple K 11-02-2010 1:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 97F1504RAD (Post 5225822)
If someone was to have completed the 832PC back in the late 80's at a community college how would one go about getting that proof?

Get a copy of your transcript from the College.

97F1504RAD 11-02-2010 3:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purple K (Post 5230546)
Get a copy of your transcript from the College.

Working on that.

Thanks

Purple K 11-09-2010 12:46 PM

The Sheriff requested a DMV printout today. New policy change since August.

asabs1982 11-09-2010 2:28 PM

SO, what are the reccommended steps to applying for a CCW permit?

Purple K 11-09-2010 7:14 PM

Solano does not charge any fees until after their initial review of your application. If you get past the initial review you'll come in for fees and fingerprinting. If you pass the background check you'll be instructed to schedule your training with one of the approved instructors.

Purple K 11-09-2010 7:16 PM

I guess they liked my DMV info. There was a message on my machine this evening to schedule my training. Bow chicka bow bow...

adamsreeftank 11-10-2010 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purple K (Post 5273888)
I guess they liked my DMV info. There was a message on my machine this evening to schedule my training. Bow chicka bow bow...

So do you have good cause beyond self defense?

dantodd 11-10-2010 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purple K (Post 5271925)
The Sheriff requested a DMV printout today. New policy change since August.

New and illegal. I'm sure Gray will be in touch, especially if it is new.

Racefiend 11-10-2010 11:38 AM

So if I'm interested in getting a CCW in Vacaville, where IIRC the Police Chief requires a high dollar bond/insurance ($1M I think), can I just go to the sheriff instead and bypass the requirement?

Being a business owner who deposits money at the bank, what are my chances of being accepted?

Purple K 11-10-2010 12:00 PM

You can bypass the PD and go directly to the Sheriff.

Purple K 11-10-2010 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamsreeftank (Post 5275317)
So do you have good cause beyond self defense?

Two paragraphs on a single sheet regarding self defense.

wildhawker 11-10-2010 12:39 PM

Let's not individually challenge Solano at this point; we're already working directly with Solano to correct deficiencies.

Racefiend 11-10-2010 12:54 PM

So hold off applying until the green light is given? I can do that.

HAVOC5150 11-10-2010 6:20 PM

I just looked at the Solano Sherif fee schedule and it says that the cost for a new ccw from the Sheriff is $229.00 + a $95.00 DOJ fee. I don't know what excessive is or what is considered illegal, to me it doesn't seem excessive but that's me. Several years ago, Fairfield city council chose to jack the city fee for a ccw to $1000.00 which I know that you'll correct me if I'm wrong they got there ***** handed to them for that.

Gary Stanton is the first Sheriff for Solano County that is giving CCW's to his Correctional Officers and to average joe citizen. Every other Sheriff that we have had wouldn't even consider it, even if one of his officers had death threats from Prison Gangs that were validated by CDCR and the FBI.

Yeah he only allows 2 guns and for employee's they can not be single action. Though I have met someone that had a CCW from Solano and he was able to carry a 1911.

Gray Peterson 11-10-2010 6:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HAVOC5150 (Post 5279153)
I just looked at the Solano Sherif fee schedule and it says that the cost for a new ccw from the Sheriff is $229.00 + a $95.00 DOJ fee. I don't know what excessive is or what is considered illegal, to me it doesn't seem excessive but that's me. Several years ago, Fairfield city council chose to jack the city fee for a ccw to $1000.00 which I know that you'll correct me if I'm wrong they got there ***** handed to them for that.

Gary Stanton is the first Sheriff for Solano County that is giving CCW's to his Correctional Officers and to average joe citizen. Every other Sheriff that we have had wouldn't even consider it, even if one of his officers had death threats from Prison Gangs that were validated by CDCR and the FBI.

Yeah he only allows 2 guns and for employee's they can not be single action. Though I have met someone that had a CCW from Solano and he was able to carry a 1911.

You can PM me more particulars and details?

-Gray

reggie 00 11-10-2010 7:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racefiend (Post 5277003)
Being a business owner who deposits money at the bank, what are my chances of being accepted?

When my brother did the inquiry, he was told that if we had big deposits to make that we should call Brinks and have them come pick it up. This was the helpful advise given by the VVPD.

reefer_bob 11-16-2010 10:32 PM

I too shall wait in the wings to see what happens! I'd like to apply when the time is right.

hoffmang 11-17-2010 11:11 AM

And the fees are now fixed: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=364201

-Gene

sar_man 11-18-2010 6:07 AM

Article from the Vacaville Reporter on the fee reduction

http://www.thereporter.com/rss/ci_16646037?source=rss

kdm 11-18-2010 6:58 AM

"I too shall wait in the wings to see what happens! I'd like to apply when the time is right."

I'm with you on that. When the environment is right, my app will be on it's way within...well...a realistic amount of time.

Does one need to submit separate Live Scan, or will a current COE do the trick?

Gray Peterson 11-18-2010 7:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdm (Post 5316623)
"I too shall wait in the wings to see what happens! I'd like to apply when the time is right."

I'm with you on that. When the environment is right, my app will be on it's way within...well...a realistic amount of time.

Does one need to submit separate Live Scan, or will a current COE do the trick?

Separate Livescan.

Purple K 11-19-2010 10:38 AM

Another $100 to the cause #xxxx-xxxx-2617-6788

CriticallyStressed 11-19-2010 1:27 PM

As a Dixon resident, I'm most interested in seeing our county's CCW reform similar to Sac. Are there any plans for legal action to accomplish in the near future?

dantodd 11-19-2010 4:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CriticallyStressed (Post 5323957)
As a Dixon resident, I'm most interested in seeing our county's CCW reform similar to Sac. Are there any plans for legal action to accomplish in the near future?


There is no need for an additional lawsuit at this point. Let Richards (nee Sykes) work its way through the system. When we win there it will apply to the whole state. Most counties will comply with the ruling and those that won't can be addressed numerous ways.

Any suit that mimics Richards or Peruta at this point is redundant and would ultimately be mooted by one of those before it gets decided.


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