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247Nino 03-25-2010 8:27 AM

Saiga 12 Conversion, Updated pictures, break-in results
 
Here is my conversion, I did the work since it was pretty easy
UTG butt pad
K-Var warsaw pact length black stock
TAC-47 Trigger Guard
Tapco G2 Single Hook
I reused the FCG spring since Im a cheap ***, after 200 rnds on tuesday at SVRGC the spring did not show any movement and held the pins in place.

I chose to try the light loads for break-in even though others say break in with heavy loads... I checked my gas ports and found 3 unobstructed ports; good to go there. Didn't polish the contact points on the FCG, its a shotgun not a precision rifle. I did lube the rails and extractor with some CLP...

I alternated mags of 10 rds from each type of ammo found at walmart. The winchester is weak as hell and the hulls crush upon extraction. The federals stink like hell but hold their shape and showed signs of cycling as soon as i hit around 70-80...
THE FIRST 150 FAILED TO EXTRACT and every one after that cycled just fine! It was a great feeling because I was getting frustrated manually cycling the gun. Its broken in now, nothing heavier that 7.5 birdshot used.


Gio 03-25-2010 8:40 AM

Nice Nino, when do I get a chance to try it out?

-Gio

247Nino 03-25-2010 8:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gio (Post 4014030)
Nice Nino, when do I get a chance to try it out?

-Gio

haha today if you want to hit up Target Masters at 130

Q 03-25-2010 10:23 PM

Nice. I just took my S12 to the range earlier this month with centurion multi shot. It's a fun shotgun, I'm gonna shoot this thing more often..:cool:

247Nino 05-03-2010 1:31 PM

updated pics
with the new Horn's Custom mag lock from Arms of America

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7163/img0036hl.jpg http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2345/img0032s.jpg

novabrian 05-03-2010 1:48 PM

Nice.I'm going to get that butt pad.The stock seems small and uncomfortable to shoulder.

nrakid88 05-03-2010 3:48 PM

Were you shooting with the gas on or off with the birdshot?

hellraiser 05-03-2010 4:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nrakid88 (Post 4229724)
Were you shooting with the gas on or off with the birdshot?

you mean with the gas plug removed or not? theres a high and low setting but not a on or off?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 247Nino (Post 4014093)
haha today if you want to hit up Target Masters at 130

hey target masters let you shoot it? last i heard they werent "maglock" friendly.... but that was some time ago.

247Nino 05-04-2010 7:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nrakid88 (Post 4229724)
Were you shooting with the gas on or off with the birdshot?

I closed down the adjustment all the way and then opened it up to setting #2


Quote:

Originally Posted by hellraiser (Post 4229929)
hey target masters let you shoot it? last i heard they werent "maglock" friendly.... but that was some time ago.

I shot it there, it was busy that day, I checked in and only showed them my ammo. No one looked at me or my lane the whole time I shot, the thing is to be low key. Some of the employees there arent too sharp and I got in with slugs one time and they got all mad when they could hear extra loud bangs. They tried to kick me out and then I did a 4 round burst with my MPA930 and no one paid any attention. So they're a little strange. Another time I brought my AR pistol with a 22lr conversion and they didnt even know what an "AR pistol" was so I said 22 Pistol.

thrillhouse700 05-05-2010 12:18 AM

May I ask how much and where you got it from? I want one soo bad.

kemper 05-06-2010 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 247Nino (Post 4233105)
I shot it there, it was busy that day, I checked in and only showed them my ammo. No one looked at me or my lane the whole time I shot, the thing is to be low key. Some of the employees there arent too sharp and I got in with slugs one time and they got all mad when they could hear extra loud bangs. They tried to kick me out and then I did a 4 round burst with my MPA930 and no one paid any attention. So they're a little strange. Another time I brought my AR pistol with a 22lr conversion and they didnt even know what an "AR pistol" was so I said 22 Pistol.

too many rules at that place.....they came and gave me a warning for rapid firing my pump shotty :confused::confused:

247Nino 05-08-2010 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thrillhouse700 (Post 4238262)
May I ask how much and where you got it from? I want one soo bad.

Well the basic conversion was the stock, fcg, pistol grip and mags. Those can be had for around $150
The gun itself was $600 after ffl transfer.
so it all depends on where you go and what parts you buy.


Quote:

Originally Posted by kemper (Post 4249489)
too many rules at that place.....they came and gave me a warning for rapid firing my pump shotty :confused::confused:

I agree, they is crazys

Z ME FLY 05-08-2010 2:07 AM

Conversion looks good! S12 is on my list but have too many irons in the fire right now..



Quote:

Originally Posted by kemper (Post 4249489)
too many rules at that place.....they came and gave me a warning for rapid firing my pump shotty :confused::confused:

I remember when I was shooting my old Glock G29. 1 shot every 2 seconds, got 2 warnings then they said they were going to kick me out LOL I just rapid fired my whole mag and said ok, I'm done anyways :)

Funny because the RO said I was shooting darn good but yet they didn't want me to rapid fire because they were scared I couldn't hit the target? I don't miss Targetmasters too much... Especially the part when people load the rounds backwards in the mag and don't know why it won't load? So they have the mag in the gun and point it at themselves looking down the barrel.... yeah... smart...

247Nino 05-21-2010 10:53 AM

I put some Lowes nylon hole plugs a while back, I actually drilled into my KVar stock and that way they fit really snug. They look nice and have to be destroyed to be removed.
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1247/nin9451.jpg

247Nino 07-15-2010 8:43 AM

Added RVG, Bolt Handle, Light Recoil Spring and Phantom.

http://ninophotography.smugmug.com/p...68_wJyBy-O.jpg
http://ninophotography.smugmug.com/p...80_wicyS-O.jpg
http://ninophotography.smugmug.com/p...79_aLwnA-O.jpg
http://ninophotography.smugmug.com/p...88_ciqjk-O.jpg
http://ninophotography.smugmug.com/p...3_4hSRS-XL.jpg

Gio 07-15-2010 8:54 AM

Dang dude! Looks awesome!

NewFrontierArmory 07-19-2010 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thrillhouse700 (Post 4238262)
May I ask how much and where you got it from? I want one soo bad.

We have them on sale for $475 right now.

247Nino 07-21-2010 6:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewFrontierArmory (Post 4645750)
We have them on sale for $475 right now.

Mine came from Adam at Peach State, $489 with PRK mag lock,

adam12 07-22-2010 5:33 AM

Right now I have OC armory magazine locks and that is what I am installing and this price is shipped.
Adam

kroniclove 07-23-2010 12:25 AM

dang that is nice...

247Nino 12-10-2010 2:28 PM

ultimate new accessory
http://ninophotography.smugmug.com/p...79_j5Htd-O.jpg

Gio 12-10-2010 6:15 PM

Nice hat ;) Hit me up sometime Nino, I want to take my Tantal out again :)

The Sauce 12-13-2010 8:51 AM

Nice hat! NOW i'm a little jealous.

247Nino 12-16-2010 8:10 PM

oh ****, its a party... the Communist Party !


http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7954/img0387oy.jpg

KCDS 12-16-2010 11:57 PM

Nice looking saiga,gj:clap:
Where you get the T-shirt from? It looks awesome

247Nino 12-17-2010 1:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCDS (Post 5461720)
Nice looking saiga,gj:clap:
Where you get the T-shirt from? It looks awesome

Thank you!

get the shirts here
http://www.threadless.com/product/38...ommunist_Party

SJgunguy24 12-17-2010 3:15 AM

Nino, you might want to take a few of those pics down and do a little work on your shotgun.

12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
(A) A folding or telescoping stock.
(B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
(7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine

iBkickinit 12-17-2010 7:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SJgunguy24 (Post 5461965)
Nino, you might want to take a few of those pics down and do a little work on your shotgun.

12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
(A) A folding or telescoping stock.
(B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
(7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine


He doesn't have a folding or telescoping stock. As long as the stock is fixed, you are GTG :thumbsup:

mikemaccham 12-20-2010 4:30 PM

So you can't have that gun with a colapsible stock?..nevermind I just read the law..
How do you like that bullet button? Looks interesting.

247Nino 12-21-2010 7:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikemaccham (Post 5479799)
So you can't have that gun with a colapsible stock?..nevermind I just read the law..
How do you like that bullet button? Looks interesting.

I HATE ALL BULLET BUTTONS, except the part where they make it possible for me to own "evil" things in CA.

In short, its a maglock, it slows me down and makes me want to move out of CA. If I ever though of using a maglocked gun for self defense I'd hope all my attackers would stand in ranks so that I could use my 10 rds/shells without worrying about a reload.

247Nino 04-13-2011 4:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SJgunguy24 (Post 5461965)
Nino, you might want to take a few of those pics down and do a little work on your shotgun.

12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
(A) A folding or telescoping stock.
(B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
(7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine

you have to have both (6)(A) and (6)(B)to make an AW
Pics are coming back up... soon...

I got tired of that RVG that I wasn't using so I decided to do some new work on my s12 .



http://ninophotography.smugmug.com/p...34_9ZK47-O.jpg

SJgunguy24 04-13-2011 5:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 247Nino (Post 6192682)
you have to have both (6)(A) and (6)(B)to make an AW
Pics are coming back up... soon...

I got tired of that RVG that I wasn't using so I decided to do some new work on my s12 .



http://ninophotography.smugmug.com/p...34_9ZK47-O.jpg

JB weld or some other type of epoxy.....why:confused:
Your gonna need to unplug that hole behind the trigger.

247Nino 04-13-2011 6:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SJgunguy24 (Post 6192828)
JB weld or some other type of epoxy.....why:confused:
Your gonna need to unplug that hole behind the trigger.

JB weld? I could see that working. I used a MIG...

unplug? that hole? ;)

http://ninophotography.smugmug.com/p...32_jYEG2-O.jpg

247Nino 04-13-2011 6:20 AM

My absolute first time welding. Couldn't find any scraps to practice on either.

http://ninophotography.smugmug.com/p...38_FSrLf-L.jpg

SJgunguy24 04-13-2011 6:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 247Nino (Post 6192902)
My absolute first time welding. Couldn't find any scraps to practice on either.

http://ninophotography.smugmug.com/p...38_FSrLf-L.jpg

I like to go from the inside out if I use the MIG, looks kinda dirty, was the gas at 17 CFH?

247Nino 04-13-2011 6:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SJgunguy24 (Post 6192929)
I like to go from the inside out if I use the MIG, looks kinda dirty, was the gas at 17 CFH?

around 15 ish...

that nasty residue was from the paint that I didn't really bother cleaning off from the inside.
I would have gone from the inside but I didn't think of it. I used copper on the back, no holes found after cleanup.

Zartan 04-14-2011 9:45 PM

Eh, it'll be fine. Going to be ground away anyway.

247Nino 04-15-2011 9:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MHShooter (Post 6205922)
Eh, it'll be fine. Going to be ground away anyway.

EXACTLY! :D

Ready for paint... prep it? maybe degrease... we'll see after this weekend. I'm picking up the rest of the conversion parts.

247Nino 04-19-2011 8:40 PM

well here it is...

http://ninophotography.smugmug.com/p..._HhbdrDk-L.jpg

D53 04-19-2011 8:44 PM

Looks pretty good. As soon as order the damn FCG I will start my conversion


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