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oaklander 02-23-2010 2:00 PM

Routine Reminder: Please Inform CGF of Any Unusual DOJ Activity
 
This is just a routine reminder that part of CGF's role is to make sure that law-abiding FFLs in California can go about their business without any unwarranted interference from any government entity. . .

In particular, we are interested in any strange or unusual interactions that you may have recently had with the DOJ/BOF.

If you have had any strange or unusual interactions with the DOJ/BOF, please PM me with the date, description of the incident, and the name/contact info for the Field Officer(s)/Agent(s) involved.

Again, this is just a routine reminder, and was not preceded by any particular event. Rather, we just want you to know that CGF is here for you if you need us!!!

:cool:

Examples of strange or unusual interactions might include:

1) Unannounced visits from field agents.
2) Repeated visits from field agents.
3) Requests to copy or take business records.
4) Attempts by field agents to pressure you into doing something (such as not selling a particular item) without any basis in law.
5) Threats, either implied or direct, or ultimatums of any kind.

ugimports 02-24-2010 12:09 AM

I'm assuming #1 excludes audits? Or are those people not referred to as field agents?

oaklander 02-24-2010 12:13 AM

I could be wrong, but my understanding was that routine audits are generally announced. What I am concerned about are "random" visits from the DOJ that are not preceded with any notice.

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Originally Posted by ugimports (Post 3857500)
I'm assuming #1 excludes audits? Or are those people not referred to as field agents?


69Mach1 02-24-2010 12:15 AM

Ah, the CGF. In the business of "handing their a**es back to them", and business is good.

ugimports 02-24-2010 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by oaklander (Post 3857518)
I could be wrong, but my understanding was that routine audits are generally announced. What I am concerned about are "random" visits from the DOJ that are not preceded with any notice.

I'm not sure, I haven't been audited yet, but talking with drick he mentioned they might come randomly or give you a call up to a day before.

oaklander 02-24-2010 3:43 AM

LOL - do not lose any sleep over it!

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Originally Posted by ugimports (Post 3857529)
I'm not sure, I haven't been audited yet, but talking with drick he mentioned they might come randomly or give you a call up to a day before.


tenpercentfirearms 02-24-2010 5:27 AM

Generally their audits are random. They want to catch you in your normal business and not after they gave you warning to hide all of the things you do wrong.

Sometimes you might get lucky and they might not realize you are closed on Mondays, so when they show up and ask your business partner's next store where you are at, that gives you all of Monday night to cross your t's and dot your i's.

oaklander 02-24-2010 11:49 AM

Good to know.

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Originally Posted by tenpercentfirearms (Post 3857805)
Generally their audits are random. They want to catch you in your normal business and not after they gave you warning to hide all of the things you do wrong.

Sometimes you might get lucky and they might not realize you are closed on Mondays, so when they show up and ask your business partner's next store where you are at, that gives you all of Monday night to cross your t's and dot your i's.



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