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Thordo 01-24-2010 11:28 AM

The Ultimate Bullet Button Tool
 
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SanSacto 01-24-2010 11:34 AM

Cool!

Charlie50 01-24-2010 11:51 AM

Great idea! I don't (yet) see a downside to installing even on my dedicated Nevada post ban mags.. maybe the bump could snag on a mag pouch but other than that very nice. Any other downsides guys?

TripleXGuns 01-24-2010 2:09 PM

I've had the pleasure of seeing this great design in person at the last Cow Palace show... simply awesome, looks as good in person as it does online!

Rick68 01-24-2010 2:24 PM

I certainly want a couple kits, being a lefty!!!

KaTooM 01-24-2010 2:33 PM

Interesting!

jbooker9 01-24-2010 3:00 PM

Nice Job thordo!!!!

evidens83 01-24-2010 3:33 PM

Interesting

Prowler 01-24-2010 4:12 PM

very good idea!

taperx 01-24-2010 4:50 PM

I expect a born and raised south city discount!!

epic4444 01-24-2010 5:38 PM

I dont use a BB but if i did i would def. go with some of these, also love how the price is affordable. Makes it fun to upgrade when you can actually afford it.

Seesm 01-24-2010 8:34 PM

I got a kit last week to test out and see what I thought.

I was thinking why not try it this guy totally thought of something different that follows the needs of us CalGunners...

I think it's a cool idea and I plan on getting more.

It is too easy to pop one out and get a new one in.

They are about as good as it gets having to run the BB...

Thordo great idea and yes I WILL be contacting you soon to get more!!

Thanks for thinking outside the BB.

glock_this 01-25-2010 7:40 AM

I am a believer.. enough so that I ordered enough to do about +20 pMags. Allan and I had many an email back & a few phone calls back and forth, bouncing ideas and improvements around, talking about separate models - one for Mapuls for example, and in the end, I think this is one of the better BB tool ideas out there, if not the best for those of us stuck in CA having to use a tool to release our mags via the BB.

I was leery at first - mostly as a right hander using these - as can be read in some of the original threads, but now, no doubt in my mind - having used and tested them, that is crushes the GPIK and any hand held tool you have to hold or pick up in terms of (1) ease of use, even for a right hander was no issue (2) price for what you get (3) speed (4) can't be lost or dropped, etc... love this product.

Let me also add.. install is a breeze. You can literally install these on sealed pmags (or unsealed for that matter) - or on the magpuls - in a bout 2 minutes or less per widget.

Here are some photos of the direct mag install and the Magpul install method for those of us running magpuls.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9605/thorod2.jpg

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/918/thorod1.jpg

Zachs300zx 01-25-2010 9:49 AM

Nice idea! PM sent to pick up a few kits.

Rick68 01-25-2010 12:14 PM

Hey Calgunners:thumbsup:, ordered mine today from Alan!! Great communication and easy payment methods. Just email thordsencustom@gmail.com and they will reply with the proper link for you. Thanks fellas.:iagree:

Thordo 01-25-2010 3:17 PM

We'll be at the Vallejo Show this Saturday 1/30 doing demos.

Thordo

madbretbeyondthunderdome 01-25-2010 5:07 PM

Not trying to drop a turd in your punchbowl and I certainly am no lawyer. But I was reading quite a bit earlier today about a 'tool' that used a magnet to basically turn a BB into an oversized extended mag release and the concensus was that the product would make 95%+ Bullet button equipped CA legal rifles illegal due to fact that it was basically disabling the point of the bullet button by turning it into an extended larger magazine release button that did not require a tool to use and the fact that it could easily be left on the rifle made it a part of the rifle not a tool.
Anyhow, obviously different situation other than the fact that the tool your offering is attached/stored on the gun. The fact that you have to use a separate magazine to actually release the BB probably has you in the clear but you might want to talk with some folks around here that are knowledgable in this area. I know it is a matter of opinion, but Gene seems to lean toward not having tool attached to your rifle. Just my two cents. I think it's an awesome idea and wish you the best. Just wanted to make sure it's all good and not felonious.

jbooker9 01-25-2010 6:14 PM

:bofud::bofud:

tomd1584 01-25-2010 6:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madbretbeyondthunderdome (Post 3699944)
Not trying to drop a turd in your punchbowl and I certainly am no lawyer. But I was reading quite a bit earlier today about a 'tool' that used a magnet to basically turn a BB into an oversized extended mag release and the concensus was that the product would make 95%+ Bullet button equipped CA legal rifles illegal due to fact that it was basically disabling the point of the bullet button by turning it into an extended larger magazine release button that did not require a tool to use and the fact that it could easily be left on the rifle made it a part of the rifle not a tool.
Anyhow, obviously different situation other than the fact that the tool your offering is attached/stored on the gun. The fact that you have to use a separate magazine to actually release the BB probably has you in the clear but you might want to talk with some folks around here that are knowledgable in this area. I know it is a matter of opinion, but Gene seems to lean toward not having tool attached to your rifle. Just my two cents. I think it's an awesome idea and wish you the best. Just wanted to make sure it's all good and not felonious.

Wow, way to threadcrap.

These are GTG. once its "attached" to the gun, you cant use it as a tool.

OP, great product, i'm going to buy some shortly!

glock_this 01-25-2010 6:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madbretbeyondthunderdome (Post 3699944)
Not trying to drop a turd in your punchbowl and I certainly am no lawyer. But I was reading quite a bit earlier today about a 'tool' that used a magnet to basically turn a BB into an oversized extended mag release and the concensus was that the product would make 95%+ Bullet button equipped CA legal rifles illegal due to fact that it was basically disabling the point of the bullet button by turning it into an extended larger magazine release button that did not require a tool to use and the fact that it could easily be left on the rifle made it a part of the rifle not a tool.
Anyhow, obviously different situation other than the fact that the tool your offering is attached/stored on the gun. The fact that you have to use a separate magazine to actually release the BB probably has you in the clear but you might want to talk with some folks around here that are knowledgable in this area. I know it is a matter of opinion, but Gene seems to lean toward not having tool attached to your rifle. Just my two cents. I think it's an awesome idea and wish you the best. Just wanted to make sure it's all good and not felonious.

yeah, you do a little research and you will see that these are totally 100% different concepts and much of what you raised has already been hashed out.

reefer_bob 01-25-2010 8:36 PM

How do we think the reliability will be of these. How sturdy are they to getting knocked around, banged into, or repeated use?

I'm going to try to make the Vallejo gun show this weekend to see them in person!

Great product!

glock_this 01-25-2010 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reefer_bob (Post 3701224)
How do we think the reliability will be of these. How sturdy are they to getting knocked around, banged into, or repeated use?

I'm going to try to make the Vallejo gun show this weekend to see them in person!

Great product!

personally, they seem solid to me. they tighten down snug and are solid and seem to site well into plastic (I only have pMags). The other version that goes into the magpuls "might" be a little less solid as it is in rubber with washer backing, but they don't take much stress. I think biggest stress on them would be if you drop your mags. I do not, and if I do I have ranger plates or magpuls to take the blow (for the most part).

Anyway, I think they will survive pretty well and that was never a concern of mine. but heck, they are cheap and better then any other alternative I say.

Darklyte27 01-26-2010 5:13 AM

pretty neat i knew a video would help!

madbretbeyondthunderdome 01-26-2010 6:17 AM

Truly wasn't trying to threadcrap. I also think this is a really good idea. Just spent some time reading about the mag button yesterday and it got me thinking.

madbretbeyondthunderdome 01-26-2010 6:23 AM

I am sure you will make a lot of folks happy around here with this design. Super affordable and works great, too. Good luck and keep thinking outside the box. People like yourself are the reason we have OLLs and I salute you.

technique 01-26-2010 3:18 PM

Bump...nice job!

Probound 01-26-2010 3:51 PM

What a great idea!! I want a set of these. Are you guys going to be at the Costa Mesa show on 1/30 and 1/31??

dieselpower 01-26-2010 4:09 PM

It's a great idea to put the tool on the mag. The ones I made are sticking out of the bottom base plate, but they snag on everything...lol Good job man.

And to anyone thinking you can't attach the tool to the firearm...where do you think a bullet tip would be....in the magazine.

Thordo 01-27-2010 5:33 AM

SHOW UPDATE
 
We'll be at the Vallejo on Saturday 1/30.

Hope you can make it!!

Thordo

Thordo 01-28-2010 5:45 AM

btt

Rick68 01-28-2010 8:46 AM

I got mine and love them. I'm a lefty and they work great for me. Super idea!!Thanks for the communication to Thordo, appreciated.

Thordo 01-29-2010 8:13 AM

btt
 
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doughboy334 01-30-2010 8:05 AM

Just got mine yesterday! Can't wait to put them on my cali mags!

pullnshoot25 01-30-2010 2:31 PM

Damn! That is a friggin good idea!

glock_this 01-30-2010 3:08 PM

Alan, how did today's show go? Sell some? Get more interest? Are people "getting it" and seeing the value and great idea at the shows?

nimoZ 01-30-2010 4:37 PM

Got mine installed today -easy install and works like a charm :)
Installed kit B in permanent 10s that turned in to 9ers, but that was easily fixed with the drill.
- Great idea :thumbsup:
/N
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_4g6AyfVltww/S2...oto%284%29.jpg

Thordo 01-30-2010 6:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nimoZ (Post 3727209)
Got mine installed today -easy install and works like a charm :)
Installed kit B in permanent 10s that turned in to 9ers, but that was easily fixed with the drill.
- Great idea :thumbsup:
/N
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_4g6AyfVltww/S2...oto%284%29.jpg

I've never seen a 10 round PMAG. Where did you get them?

Thordo

Thordo 01-30-2010 6:25 PM

Vallejo show update
 
The Vallejo show was the best yet. Several Calgunners showed up that saw this thread and bought some kits. We also had our first confirmed repeat customer. To all of you I say THANK YOU!! This little tool is building up momentum and getting great acclaim.

We teamed up with two other AR parts vendors and together sold 42 kits, 4 preinstalled C-Prod mags, and did probably 100 demos. VERY EXCITING!! Unfortunately, we won't be at the show tomorrow (family gig) but my friends at Triple X Guns and Metal Dog Tactical will be selling them and doing more demos.

Glock_this, I'm sorry I totally spazzed on getting a butt stock. By the time we got done tallying and planning the next move it was getting late and we were exhausted.

Our next show will probably be in Stockton on 13-14 February.
http://www.codeofthewestgunshows.com..._schedules.htm

doughboy334 01-30-2010 6:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thordo (Post 3727573)
I've never seen a 10 round PMAG. Where did you get them?

Thordo

IIRC, an online vendor chops up 30 rounders into 10 rounders like these. They are running out of first gen bodies I think tho.

nimoZ 01-30-2010 7:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thordo (Post 3727573)
I've never seen a 10 round PMAG. Where did you get them?

Thordo

MidwestPX.com


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