2013 CA AB 174 - Bonta - As of 3/19, no longer a 2A bill.
3/19/2013 - has been amended to public school health centers - no longer a 2A bill
An attempt to delete all grandfather clauses on guns already owned. ETA - link to bill: http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...201320140AB174 // Librarian Quote:
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But, but, but... all my Democrat friends insist that the Government doesn't want to take away any of my guns!!!
Seriously, I hope that there is some shred of intellect left in the CA legislature, so that this can be killed in committee. If not, I suppose Jerry may have the legal wisdom to not sign this thing and save the state some serious trouble. Not holding my breath, though... |
There is no shred of intellect in this pinhead. Still has his first election diapers on and he's already proposing crap legislation. Democratic supermajority, whoopee!!!
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i can't think of a gun that is "grand fathered in" here in CA. If they passed a law against it, it had to be registered, and the law banned transfers.
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OK, there is no text to the bill, just a statement of intent. Time will tell. |
You cant *not* have a grandfather clause, and removing the existing one creates a slew of felons. Wtf.
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Y'all relax.
The Right People are all over this kind of proposed legislation. Spoiled apple Poison pill Politics is warfare. Feints. Counter attacks. Flanking manouvers. Deception. And cavalry charges. Not all our friends are Republicans. |
Wow. So Yee's SB47 lets us keep and register if we own a preban BB AR, but this guy comes in and swoops them all up
Checkmate! We're dealing with genius's here .. they are 2-3 moves ahead |
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Well, the budget is wrapped-up, highways are good to go, heck -all the infrastructure looks golden. Those schools, universities and all that should fix themselves right up with all those smart folks in 'em... Guess we just need to grab all those guns lying around and we can take care of all that crime right quick! Phew, this legislatin' is tough work!
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And now you see why we mock them. Their efforts would be rather amusing if it weren't our rights they were trying to violate.
-Brandon Quote:
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The scary thing is in this communist state; ALL this crap could come true!!!
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There is not enough money in this state to confiscate all of the RAWs at current market value or settle the suits that would arise otherwise.
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Then they'll tax you on it come tax time cause its "earned income" |
I think they consistently underestimate how many hundreds of thousands of these guns are in circulation. The state does not have the money to compensate for all the "grandfathered" guns.
At least he can tell his constituents that he tried to save the beh-behs. |
And people say we have pro gun demokrats here. Stupidity at its best.f
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If I had guns and ammo they wanted I would let them have my ammo 1st. jk.
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where, do these people come from??? what planet ??? :icon_bs::puke::shrug:
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They shall simply "borrow" the resources necessary to implement their change for us, then worry about paying for the services at a later date - or not... A.W.D. |
4A rights violation would be a billion dollar lawsuit
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Bonta graduated with honors from Yale College with a degree in History. Was he asleep that day they covered the 2nd Ammendment?
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WTF do they plan to do? Knock on every door to take our guns ??? :rolleyes:
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It's not what Bonta knows, but what he knows that just isn't so.
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These "grandfather" clauses are not there because the legislature wants to be nice to gun owners. These clauses are there because ex post facto laws are unconstitutional.
You may as well say, I know it was perfectly legal to drive down 1st st last week, but we are making it illegal, and further anyone who in fact drove down 1st st, ever is guilty of breaking that law. This is a non-starter. I am also dumbfounded that this would even be broached by a member of the legislature. Disgusting. |
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There should be VERY SEVERE penalties for trying to violate the highest law of our land. These "servants" continually dance around the grey areas of the Constitution, and if they go too far, they just get to try again and again until the courts either allow their transgression or the people run out of money to fight in the courts. This should be a "one and done" offense. Serving in politics is a PRIVILEDGE, not a RIGHT. Using that privilege to violate other's rights should have severe repercussions. I would even suggest that willfully violating the Constitution is a form of treason, but that's a future amendment. |
I wrote my Assemblyman (Dan Logue) the following (as Mr Bonta does not want to hear from people outside his district).
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You can contact him through his website: http://www.robbonta.com/contact/
I C&Pd your email with a little change, hope thats alright |
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Maybe this is the new stimulus package. Create a law so ridiculously illegal that the lawsuit forces the state to raise taxes (like they need an excuse), then they refuse to pay claiming they had to use the money to pay off the pre--existing debt first. |
But I thought our poly-tick-shuns were there to help us !!!
:rofl2: I just made myself laugh...... |
think its time for me to go back to indian lands...
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To those saying this is illegal: you are right but it doesn't matter.
If this passes... The state will access the AW registry records and send uniformed police to those residences to confiscate the now illegal "assault rifles". Most will scream and holler, but to protect themselves and their families, they will turn them over and vow to fight this in the courts. It will take months for this to make its way through the legal system, and during that time your rifle(s) will be turned into little pools of molten aluminum. The courts will rule this was unconstitutional and that the rifles need to be returned or the owner properly compensated. Because it was already destroyed, they will have to pay the compensation. The state will then move money from education/first responders/parks to pay for this. Next, they will go to the taxpayers and claim that to keep these services running they need another tax increase. The sheep of this state will vote in the tax increase (it's for the children!) and you will have paid for your rifle(s) twice; once at the store and again at tax time. Our handlers in Sacramento will view this as win/win. They get rid of all the "scarey" rifles and get a permanent tax hike as well. Don't think this will happen? Look at how the bullet train to nowhere keeps getting funded... -Ruskie |
its funny how boating accidents seem to happen and then you usually find everything you lost in that accident not long after the law is ruled against. coincidences are funny things
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-Ruskie |
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