Contra Costa
 

(removed dead link to out-of-date GC statements)

Anyone who gets denied in Contra Costa Co (either by a city's PD or by the Sheriff's Office), and wants to fight it should read the following quote from my ("Paladin") post in the Monterey Co thread. (There they accept SD as GC, but push the GMC requirement.) The 14th Amendment Equal Protection applies to ALL aspects of the application process, not just GC and GMC.

UPDATE (2015 June 27): with SCOTUS declining to grant Jackson cert and Peruta having gone to an en banc panel of CA9, things at the moment look grim for CGNers in CoCoCo. We should no longer assume the "Heller 5" will say our RKBA protected by the 2nd A "shall not be infringed." :mad:

We've got to adapt to this "new reality" until we get some reason to think otherwise. Thus, I've condensed and updated a previous thread of mine and made it into a new thread so that at least some who work in CoCoCo can get CCWs.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...php?p=16522545

:chris:

UPDATE (2015 July 04): Near the bottom of the column on the left (at: http://www.co.contra-costa.ca.us/279...ty-Information), I saw this cryptically titled link "SO Response to Ninth Circuit Ruling." Also, under "Useful Links" is a link boringly titled "Office of the Sheriff response to Ninth Circuit ruling." Note well how neither link says ANYTHING to give the uninformed visitor any idea what these links are about. Neither uses "CCW", "concealed", "handgun", "carry", or "permit." They both link to the below, the ONLY information I could find re. CCWs on their website.

From: http://www.co.contra-costa.ca.us/546...Circuit-Ruling

Tagging for info...

Would love to guinea pig a CCW run through... Ive been seriously looking into getting one. I also believe I live within 300 yards or two previous muders!! :mad: and Im thinking that self defense is still not a valid Good Cause for our good Sheriff.

Looking to help out! USE ME!!! LOL!

Rupf's policy is problematic on many levels.

Perhaps his successor can be reasoned with?

Probably not, it seems like Livingston was Rupf's hand-picked successor. He never responded to questions about his stance on CCW. He did respond somewhat enthusiastically to a request for info about joining the "Sherrif's Posse".

I can't wait until it's Co. Co.'s turn to get sued!

I'm not holding out much hope but starting a new job by getting your posterior handed to you isn't a great first impression. I looked into the posse but I don't know any posse members and I'm unwilling to pay the freight to join the club.

Count me in for a CCW guinea pig run, too. I also donated $100 to CGF two nights back to sponsor action in CoCo :)

Contra Costa County CCW
 

This info is a little dated (from 2002) but it's an interesting read about Contra Costa County Sheriff Warren Rupf and the whole CCW issue.

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/march/Posse.doc

If this info is already posted somewhere in Calguns, I apologize in advance but it seems appropriate to post the info here again.

Good luck in Contra Costa County!

Interesting read... looking at this and other docs that include some of the GC statements that were used... Personal protection has been used in the past so wouldnt you be able to NOW go and use that as a good cause and be permitted?? Or... do the GC justification and level of pass or fail come and go with the current sitting sheriff?? So if the recent Sheriff said yes to personal protection dose the current sitting Sheriff have to follow past GC reasons??

Anyway.... still cant wait for this to get rolling. It will be fun to see a "dark red" county be brought to its knees.

Some people write self-defense and some people write nothing.. doesn't that mean under law they have to grant me a CCW if I apply and have no criminal backround?

Need to figure out if that information is currently valid.

I applied some years ago (maybe 10?). Was told (and still have the letter) that I had to apply to Walnut Creek PD first. WCPD told me up front based on a verbal conversation that I would not be issued one and discouraged me from going through the process, effort, and expense for a known negative outcome.

So basically due to the Sheriff's "agreement with chiefs" I would have had to double my application fees and time/effort commitment to even have my application considered.

That flat out sucks... I'm really glad that WildHawker is undertaking this effort to give the citizens of California a fair shake at CCW.

C'mon Contra Costa residents - we need eight more sponsors to reach goal: http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.p...rships-to-date

That's nice........

You don't say? :rolleyes:

The master taught him well.

As requested... Paypal Confirm #2J370853T32156156

C'mon Contra Costa residents - we need eight seven more sponsors to reach goal:

What happens when we reach the sponsorship goal?

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...4&postcount=44

I'm not made of money by any means, but IMO this is certainly worth funding. "Freedom isn't free" has many meanings, especially in these CA counties!

Bing... you've got sponsorship

Alright... who messed up the County Sponsorship numbers for COCO County??!! :mad: I see other sponsor pledges and I have no reason to doubt that they did actually make a donation and I KNOW I made mine....

When I made my $100 donation the list said 8 more needed... mine brought it down to 7... please fix the numbers!!

I mean if you need the cash.. say that if you donate you are more than likely (barring criminal past record) to be a test case to push the county and test the waters so to speak... I'm betting you'd have no problems getting cash in hand!! :D

:chillpill:

"To Date" values may not reflect recent sponsorships*

Where are you guys seeing this list, the list I see shows 0 sponsorships for CoCo total.

Chill? :D Wasnt meant as a rant... But "To Date" numbers arent supposed to go BACKWARDS are they?

Chill......... ;) :D

Sorry, we were caught "mid-programming". Everything should be current as of about 12am today.

http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.p...rships-to-date

Ok, so we need $1200 more in Contra Costa. I'm posting this all over my facebook page and telling everyone I know.

Make that $1100.

Sweet. Thank you! Keep at it, folks, and if you know any gun shops that want to sponsor (and reap the inevitable rewards of expanded carry throughout the state), let us know!

Unfortunately, Contra Costa isn't overflowing with great gun shops... but I for one will take to the streets this weekend, so to speak, and try to pitch it to the ones I'm closest to (City Arms, Diablo Valley Gun Works, and ... Canyon Sports - possibly Triple A's in Vallejo).

If I can spare it, I'll donate another $100 while I'm at it, too. Just need to check the books. :)

Thanks Gray!

-Jon H.

Any luck, Jon?

Thought Contra Costa could use another bump for a call to action, as well.

Money's tight but if I can spare $100, you'll get it.

I coulda swore that I read someplace (before the election) that he did respond and it went something like: "I support issuance of CCW's for those persons who demonstrate "good cause" and meet all other statutory requirements. Basically, I support the law as it currently exists" or somesuch. Of course, I can't recall where I read it, or if that source was reliable/legitimate.

Either way, ambiguous, at best.

Been a lurker for a while and after seeing you guys in action at the last GRPC weekend I was truly impressed. Couldn't resist contributing towards CoCoCounty LEO's being converted into believers instead of elitists they've been for a long time. Best 100 bucks I ever spent!

Not alot o money on hand atm but made my donation today =)

Thanks for your support! We should be receiving some information on Contra Costa soon...

Okay...I'm in. Made my PP payment just now. -g

Right on Contra Costa!!! Getting closer to getting our numbers in without our Gun Vendors!

ok gotta work harder on the vendors now!!

Saturday Bump!

I just dropped $100 in and edited my signature. :)

Very nice. The numbers are not automatic, I will update them tonight.