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KrisDSA 02-16-2017 3:24 PM

Buy your 10mm/45ACP Glock now.
 
Got off the phone with my Glock guy at Glock and was told by him and backed up two other of my distributor today that Glock is dropping the Gen 3 10mm/45acp. .

supermario 02-16-2017 3:41 PM

Dropping it off Cali roster or stop making the 10mm?

KrisDSA 02-16-2017 3:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supermario (Post 19683872)
Dropping it off Cali roster or stop making the 10mm?

No longer making 10mm/45ACP in Gen 3,Only Gen 4 after 2017.

supermario 02-16-2017 3:49 PM

oh ok. So it wont be sold in Cali once they are Gen 4s.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisDSA (Post 19683886)
No longer making 10mm/45ACP in Gen 3,Only Gen 4 after 2017.


Carcassonne 02-16-2017 3:57 PM

Oh Fudge


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CandG 02-16-2017 4:00 PM

It was inevitable, we couldn't expect them to keep making gen3's forever just for the CA non-LE market.

We'll be seeing this happening more and more every year, with all manufacturers, until nothing is left. Liberals call it "die Endlösung der Handfeuerwaffefrage," which loosely translates to "The Final Solution to the Handgun Question."

KrisDSA 02-16-2017 4:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supermario (Post 19683896)
oh ok. So it wont be sold in Cali once they are Gen 4s.

Gen 4 have been around for sometime now. They are just dropping the Big Frame Glocks. I think I am going to be picking up a 10mm this Saturday

elSquid 02-16-2017 4:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supermario (Post 19683896)
oh ok. So it wont be sold in Cali once they are Gen 4s.

There have been Gen4 variants for quite a while. I have a Gen4 G21 purchased in 2014.

-- Michael

elSquid 02-16-2017 4:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elSquid (Post 19683937)
There have been Gen4 variants for quite a while. I have a Gen4 G21 purchased in 2014.

Actually, now that I think about it, I got in 2013.

Here's a product review from 2012.

https://www.americanrifleman.org/art...45-acp-pistol/

-- Michael

CandG 02-16-2017 4:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elSquid (Post 19683956)
Actually, now that I think about it, I got in 2013.

Here's a product review from 2012.

https://www.americanrifleman.org/art...45-acp-pistol/

-- Michael

Even though Gen4's are plenty available in free states, if Glock discontinues Gen3 then Californians will not be able to buy a new Glock (of any generation) anymore. We'll only be able to buy used ones.

Back when you bought your Gen4 (assuming you're in CA) you probably used the single-shot exemption, which no longer exists.

LkPillsburyDude 02-16-2017 4:13 PM

Good. Mine just went up in value haha. JK value doesn't mean anything I'd never sell it haha.

elSquid 02-16-2017 4:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cockedandglocked (Post 19683981)
Even though Gen4's are plenty available in free states, if Glock discontinues Gen3, then Californians can only buy used Gen4's for 2-3x the MSRP of a new one. No options for most of us to buy a proper new one for retail cost.

I was replying to supermario that gen4 versions have been out for a long time, so that - obviously - the introduction of gen4s can't be the trigger for the discontinuation of gen3s, otherwise that would have already happened.

Glock may be discontinuing large frame Gen3s, but I'd want multiple, independant confirmation because I've seen the same claim, years ago.

-- Michael

Steve1968LS2 02-16-2017 4:15 PM

I would be happy if every gun went off the roster.. the gun companies would be doing us a long term favor if they stopped paying the extortion and let all the gun fall off.

A roster with no guns would be easy to address in court.. :)

Strykeback 02-16-2017 4:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 (Post 19684008)
I would be happy if every gun went off the roster.. the gun companies would be doing us a long term favor if they stopped paying the extortion and let all the gun fall off.

A roster with no guns would be easy to address in court.. :)

This. Though I love my 30sf

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CandG 02-16-2017 4:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elSquid (Post 19684006)
I was replying to supermario that gen4 versions have been out for a long time, so that - obviously - the introduction of gen4s can't be the trigger for the discontinuation of gen3s, otherwise that would have already happened.

Glock may be discontinuing large frame Gen3s, but I'd want multiple, independant confirmation because I've seen the same claim, years ago.

-- Michael

Ah, gotcha. Ya the only reason Glock would stop making gen3s is if the market for them shrank to a point where the factory space would be better utilized making more gen4's instead. But it's possible they're starting to reach that point, really there probably aren't many buyers except for whatever gen3 agency commitments they may have left, and the CA consumer market. I, too, am waiting for more sources of confirmation before I assume this to be true though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 (Post 19684008)
I would be happy if every gun went off the roster.. the gun companies would be doing us a long term favor if they stopped paying the extortion and let all the gun fall off.

A roster with no guns would be easy to address in court.. :)

I agree. It would be painful for a few years while the litigation gets hashed out, but maybe worth the sacrifice.

The problem is, this would never happen, simply because the fewer guns on the roster the more profitable the remaining ones become. Once there's only 1 manufacturer left on the roster, you'd have a heck of a time convincing them to give up their monopoly on the CA handgun market.

tbc 02-16-2017 4:26 PM

Glock marketing is pretty clever. They won't drop their G19/G17 Gen 3.

lakersfan 02-16-2017 4:29 PM

They need to drop Gen 3 and Gen 4 and bring out Gen 5 already.

Lead Waster 02-16-2017 4:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cockedandglocked (Post 19684054)
Ah, gotcha. Ya the only reason Glock would stop making gen3s is if the market for them shrank to a point where the factory space would be better utilized making more gen4's instead. But it's possible they're starting to reach that point, really there probably aren't many buyers except for whatever gen3 agency commitments they may have left, and the CA consumer market. I, too, am waiting for more sources of confirmation before I assume this to be true though.



I agree. It would be painful for a few years while the litigation gets hashed out, but maybe worth the sacrifice.

The problem is, this would never happen, simply because the fewer guns on the roster the more profitable the remaining ones become. Once there's only 1 manufacturer left on the roster, you'd have a heck of a time convincing them to give up their monopoly on the CA handgun market.


Seriously, I'm sure there is a psychology experiment involved in this.
They either all go whole hog and commit to abandoning the roster, thus allowing every one to sell in CA, or they continue to hold out and reap larger and larger pieces of the pie.

If Hipoint were the only one left, then only HiPoints will be sold (legally). Criminals will still have whatever they want, of course.

KrisDSA 02-16-2017 4:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbc (Post 19684057)
Glock marketing is pretty clever. They won't drop their G19/G17 Gen 3.

Don't see them dropping the G19Gen3 anytime soon. Some LEO/Military have contracts specifying GEN 3 Glock 19

CandG 02-16-2017 4:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakersfan (Post 19684076)
They need to drop Gen 3 and Gen 4 and bring out Gen 5 already.

I'll miss the finger grooves, I actually liked those.

MontClaire 02-16-2017 4:42 PM

My Glock people call your news and I'm literally quoting: a "bullsh*t!"

E92335i 02-16-2017 4:44 PM

Glock people lol.

Lead Waster 02-16-2017 4:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontClaire (Post 19684142)
My Glock people call your news and I'm literally quoting: a "bullsh*t!"

I guess your Glock guy wasn't trying to clear out his inventory of 10/.45 Glocks like OP's guy was! LOL!

Tok36 02-16-2017 4:45 PM

Glocks!

ElvenSoul 02-16-2017 4:47 PM

You guys need to start a petition to Glock

You g17 &;g19's are next!

Carcassonne 02-16-2017 4:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cockedandglocked (Post 19684054)
Ah, gotcha. Ya the only reason Glock would stop making gen3s is if the market for them shrank to a point where the factory space would be better utilized making more gen4's instead. But it's possible they're starting to reach that point, really there probably aren't many buyers except for whatever gen3 agency commitments they may have left, and the CA consumer market. I, too, am waiting for more sources of confirmation before I assume this to be true though.

All the factory space would be in Austria since we can't have Glocks made in USA in California.

The problem is with the molds. If they get worn out, Glock may not want to put money into making any more. If the molds are still good, there is no reason for them not to run a batch here and there every few years to sell guns in California. California sales must be noticeable to them, but maybe not the 20 and 21 models. They already stopped making the regular framed (None SF) G20/21 pistols.


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skosh69 02-16-2017 5:13 PM

No worries, 1911's will always be there in 45 ACP.

KrisDSA 02-16-2017 5:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontClaire (Post 19684142)
My Glock people call your news and I'm literally quoting: a "bullsh*t!"

call them yourself n find out the info before you post bull****. You ask Sean at Glock There is a reason why places online are blowing them out for under $500.00 New.

Carcassonne 02-16-2017 5:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skosh69 (Post 19684317)
No worries, 1911's will always be there in 45 ACP.

On the roster?

KrisDSA 02-16-2017 5:33 PM

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Case in point

lakersfan 02-16-2017 5:38 PM

I can see them dropping 10mm, .357 SIG and 45 GAP models but why 45 ACP?

SkyHawk 02-16-2017 5:42 PM

They should keep them on the roster even if they stop making them, so people in CA can import them from out of state. Colt should have done the same thing with the 1991s.

If Sig can keep the P6 on roster and Walther can keep the P1 on roster, neither of which have been made in 20-30 years+, Glock should be able to keep G3 10mm and 45ACP on roster.

I wonder if they are dropping G30 and G36 models also.

ar15robert 02-16-2017 5:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakersfan (Post 19684433)
I can see them dropping 10mm, .357 SIG and 45 GAP models but why 45 ACP?

10mm and 45 are the same frame just swap the slides.

elSquid 02-16-2017 5:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skosh69 (Post 19684317)
No worries, 1911's will always be there in 45 ACP.

Unless you want a Colt.

-- Michael

elSquid 02-16-2017 5:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisDSA (Post 19684412)
Case in point

Is production ending, or did a production run just end?

-- Michael

Bad Caselaw 02-16-2017 6:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisDSA (Post 19684380)
call them yourself n find out the info before you post bull****. You ask Sean Ford at Glock There is a reason why places online are blowing them out for under $500.00 New.

They are probability referring to the non-SF models.

And did your GLOCK Svengali happen to mention the .45 ACP G36, which has no SF or Gen4 equivalent?






Caselaw

Beetle Bailey 02-16-2017 6:06 PM

The 10mm Glocks are some of the most versatile auto-loaders on the roster. It's a shame they will be gone, and I blame the roster than those stand in the way of its removal.

KrisDSA 02-16-2017 6:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Caselaw (Post 19684529)
They are probability referring to the non-SF models.

And did your GLOCK Svengali happen to mention the .45 ACP G36, which has no SF or Gen4 equivalent?






Caselaw

you can also call Addex who is vendor on here yourself. They can tell you the same. It's all Gen 3 45acp/10mm ( the non SF stopped production sometime ago) and as far as the G36, Glock a year ago said at the Big 3 Gun Show that they are phasing out G36 without a rail ( aka stopping production ) in favor for the G36 with a rail.

General 02-16-2017 6:16 PM

Got my G20, compensated with extra uncompensated barrel plus 6" extended barrel and 50GI convertion slide.
It's one of my keepers.

LAL

KrisDSA 02-16-2017 6:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakersfan (Post 19684433)
I can see them dropping 10mm, .357 SIG and 45 GAP models but why 45 ACP?

from what they said at the last Glock class. The Gen3 45/10 Glocks don't hold up as well as the Gen4 when it comes to a high round count. Single spring vs double spring


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