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Mstnpete 11-05-2009 11:00 AM

Barrel Nut removal on Draco AK Pistol
 
I have dremelled the spot weld with a circular cutter but still having problems taking it off. What else should I do to take this off? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Here are some pictures of the barrel nut I dremmelled.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...y/IMG_0061.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...y/IMG_0062.jpg

TIA!

gozuki 11-05-2009 11:36 AM

Go a little deeper with the cutting wheel.

djleisure 11-05-2009 11:40 AM

Just to state the obvious - you are pushing the retaining pin ALL THE WAY IN when you try to remove the brake, right? Also, it is reverse what our threads are, so it's righty-loosey...

Other than that, take off more steel!

Rukus 11-05-2009 1:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gozuki (Post 3319255)
Go a little deeper with the cutting wheel.

And make sure you are depressing the pin on the bottom of the front site base. Mine was pretty tight even after cutting the weld. I had to use a wrench to get it loose the first time, now its not a problem at all.

Mstnpete 11-05-2009 1:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djleisure (Post 3319281)
Just to state the obvious - you are pushing the retaining pin ALL THE WAY IN when you try to remove the brake, right? Also, it is reverse what our threads are, so it's righty-loosey...

Other than that, take off more steel!

Yes, I am pressing the pin. It's trying to move but just won't budge. I'll try to go a little more on the cut and see what happens.

Mstnpete 11-05-2009 5:06 PM

Just got back from Home Depot and bought some big vise grip pliers.
She wants to play hard to get! Let's play!

NSR500 11-05-2009 5:49 PM

Isn't the removal of the Draco barrel nut a "No, no" in California?
Threaded barrels on pistols are illegal, right? So, even if you are putting another muzzle device on, the period of time the Draco is without it's muzzle device, the firearm is in a bad configuration.

69Mach1 11-05-2009 5:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NSR500 (Post 3321304)
Isn't the removal of the Draco barrel nut a "No, no" in California?
Threaded barrels on pistols are illegal, right? So, even if you are putting another muzzle device on, the period of time the Draco is without it's muzzle device, the firearm is in a bad configuration.

A threaded barrel on a handgun is moot when the handgun has a locked 10 round magazine. Which the AK (and AR) pistol requires ALL of the time.

NSR500 11-05-2009 5:53 PM

Copy that...

Carry on everybody... :)

ke6guj 11-05-2009 6:10 PM

Threaded barrels are only prohibited on semi-automatic pistols that have a detachable magazine. Threaded barrels are not regulated on any other firearms in CA.

Mstnpete 11-05-2009 6:20 PM

Ok back to topic! LOL and thanks for clarifying.

I'm going to continue the project in the morning ...I'm pooped!

AM9000 11-05-2009 6:28 PM

After I got it to the point you did with the rotary tool, I tapped mine a few times with a small finishing hammer. The weld will brake at the point you got it too. Then just twist it off. LH threads remember...

Mstnpete 11-05-2009 9:54 PM

Thanks bro! I'm going to try that tomorrow.

joelukehart 11-05-2009 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mstnpete (Post 3321474)
Ok back to topic! LOL and thanks for clarifying.

I'm going to continue the project in the morning ...I'm pooped!

You are pooped already??? Power down a Red Bull and get that freakin' muzzle nut off! By the way, what muzzle device are you going to put on?

Mstnpete 11-05-2009 11:20 PM

Not sure yet maybe a Krink.

Gio 11-05-2009 11:24 PM

I got mine off, I used the old school method. Yes I am now a real HACKER as I am often called in the gaming community :D Good ole Hack Saw, my only problem is not realizing that the threads are reverse on these things and I ended up putting it on really tight, and then I pretty much destroyed it. Pics to be found in my Draco thread.

Just keep going at it, also my pin took a couple hits to get back out of it's hole. It did not want to pop back out for some reason :43:

-Gio

SJgunguy24 11-05-2009 11:32 PM

Thats a weld not silver solder

Mstnpete 11-05-2009 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gio (Post 3322927)
I got mine off, I used the old school method. Yes I am now a real HACKER as I am often called in the gaming community :D Good ole Hack Saw, my only problem is not realizing that the threads are reverse on these things and I ended up putting it on really tight, and then I pretty much destroyed it. Pics to be found in my Draco thread.

Just keep going at it, also my pin took a couple hits to get back out of it's hole. It did not want to pop back out for some reason :43:

-Gio

Yupp, I bought a small saw from H Depot. I will try it as well.
If the sucker still will not give , than I will cut the barrel nut in half.

Mstnpete 11-06-2009 7:42 AM

Good News! I finally was able to take off the barrel nut!
The secret was cutting the darn pin that was spring loaded.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...IMG_0061-1.jpg

Rukus 11-06-2009 7:46 AM

So you cut off the spring loaded pin?

Mstnpete 11-06-2009 8:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rukus (Post 3323550)
So you cut off the spring loaded pin?

Yes, the function of it was just to lock in place the barrel nut.

Barabas 11-06-2009 8:47 AM

It also serves to keep your muzzle device in place too. Most ak brakes and flash hiders have provision for the pin. There's a reason it's spring loaded man, your are supposed to push it in while turning the nut off.

69Mach1 11-06-2009 8:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mstnpete (Post 3323534)
Good News! I finally was able to take off the barrel nut!
The secret was cutting the darn pin that was spring loaded.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...IMG_0061-1.jpg

Ya did what?! I thought you said you were pushing down on the pin. Once the weld was cut, pushing down on the pin and turning counter clockwise with a wrench should have done it.

Mstnpete 11-06-2009 9:13 AM

That's alright! That pin won't be of any use on the Bulgarian Muzzle/flash hider I am using.

Mstnpete 11-06-2009 9:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barabas (Post 3323809)
It also serves to keep your muzzle device in place too. Most ak brakes and flash hiders have provision for the pin. There's a reason it's spring loaded man, your are supposed to push it in while turning the nut off.

I did that and would not work. So I just shortened the pin.

djleisure 11-06-2009 9:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69Mach1 (Post 3323825)
Ya did what?! I thought you said you were pushing down on the pin. Once the weld was cut, pushing down on the pin and turning counter clockwise with a wrench should have done it.

Fixed that for ya! ;)

Mstnpete 11-06-2009 9:24 AM

The important thing is I was able to take off the barrel nut.
Any comp or brake I decide to use comes with lock screws anyways and will be loctite from barrel thread to the comp and on the lock screws..

Gio 11-06-2009 10:14 AM

Good to hear you got it off the barrel finally, here is what mine looked like after I was done :o

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...o/IMG_2542.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...o/IMG_2543.jpg

Yeah yeah, I am still an AK n00b and it's my first AK so yeah I goofed it up :ack2:

-Gio

Mstnpete 11-06-2009 10:38 AM

Wow, you really tore that apart.

I just got done drilling a hole on the rear trunion for a sling mount.

Gio 11-06-2009 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mstnpete (Post 3324241)
Wow, you really tore that apart.

I just got done drilling a hole on the rear trunion for a sling mount.

That is Hardcore! I just followed djleisure's mod and threw a Nylon loop under the PG and that was it :D

-Gio

69Mach1 11-06-2009 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djleisure (Post 3323939)
Fixed that for ya! ;)

Oops. thanks.

SJgunguy24 11-06-2009 3:50 PM

Hey Gio, next time you work on a gun don't forget your white smock.



Cause your a butcher!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Gio (Post 3324146)
Good to hear you got it off the barrel finally, here is what mine looked like after I was done :o

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...o/IMG_2542.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...o/IMG_2543.jpg

Yeah yeah, I am still an AK n00b and it's my first AK so yeah I goofed it up :ack2:

-Gio


Gio 11-06-2009 4:24 PM

I wear a White and Red shemagh is that good enough? :43:

-Gio

Mstnpete 11-06-2009 4:30 PM

Here's the picture of the drilled trunion and sling mount installed.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...IMG_0070-1.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...IMG_0071-1.jpg

Mstnpete 11-07-2009 4:27 PM

Getting ready to stain hand guards. Still deciding if I will DuraCoat my Draco.
I have to order the paint and clean the airbrush.

Mstnpete 11-16-2009 3:15 PM

The project is done.


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