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oldyeller 11-20-2012 12:33 PM

Pistol buffer tube
 
Just got an AR pistol buffer tube from Blackthorn, my question is that it looks like an A2 stock tube on the end that could accept an A2 stock. Will this be a legal problem in pistol configuration? Thanks
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...a/DSCF1412.jpg

oldyeller 11-20-2012 12:36 PM

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...a/DSCF1413.jpg

phrogg111 11-20-2012 12:43 PM

No problems with legality.

You'd have to have the back end tapped for a screw, and a stock to fit the tube, in order to have an NFA constructive possession issue.

oldyeller 11-20-2012 12:44 PM

it is tapped for a screw. I do have an A2 stock.

CIV Tactical 11-20-2012 1:05 PM

DO NOT USE IT! If It can accept a stock at all it is a definite violation of SBR laws/constructive posession laws.

Sicarius 11-20-2012 1:48 PM

Drill out the hole. Done. If you know somebody with a lathe, they can knock off the end there too in 10 seconds.
Kevin

jamesob 11-20-2012 2:53 PM

is it the same length as a a2 buffer tube?

phrogg111 11-20-2012 4:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CIV Tactical (Post 9759796)
DO NOT USE IT! If It can accept a stock at all it is a definite violation of SBR laws/constructive posession laws.

This is wrong.

If you don't have a stock for a mil-spec tube, you can use a standard mil-spec stock tube on a pistol.

I wouldn't reccommend that, though.

Removing any threads inside the tube - or putting a small screw in them - will solve your problem.

In fact, as you have the foam on the stock, you don't even need to do that if the foam is glued.

oldyeller 11-20-2012 7:50 PM

OK, so the A2 tube is much longer, but the ends look pretty much the same, and hole and threads are the same. Am I GTG on a pistol build with this?
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...a/DSCF1415.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...a/DSCF1414.jpg

atdski07 11-20-2012 8:00 PM

Haha second picture looks wrong.......

DREADNOUGHT78 11-20-2012 8:03 PM

That is a stock tube designed for the shorty A2 stock or the "Entry fixed stock". On an A2 tube there is no mil spec/com spec.

(Borrowed this pic)
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m..._CHS9647-2.jpg

oldyeller 11-20-2012 8:10 PM

So as long as I don't have a shorty A2 stock I am ok?

CIV Tactical 11-21-2012 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldyeller (Post 9762598)
So as long as I don't have a shorty A2 stock I am ok?

No you are not ok. If your AR pistol buffer tube is CAPABLE of accepting a stock you are in violation. Does not matter if you have the stock or not. In this case the buffer tube is capable of accepting a shorty A2 stock so I would not use it. Its not worth risking a felony over.

zomie 11-21-2012 12:18 AM

Couldn't you just fill in the hole with some epoxy? or use a hacksaw to take off the end with the threads?

It would require some excessive tooling then in order to get a stock on there.

jamesob 11-21-2012 7:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIV Tactical (Post 9763812)
No you are not ok. If your AR pistol buffer tube is CAPABLE of accepting a stock you are in violation. Does not matter if you have the stock or not. In this case the buffer tube is capable of accepting a shorty A2 stock so I would not use it. Its not worth risking a felony over.

technically all pistol buffers could have a stock slid on to them. With the foam glued on your not going to put a stock on it without modifying it. If your worried about it just buy a sling mount and screw it on and be done.

Exile Machine 11-21-2012 7:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jamesob (Post 9764607)
technically all pistol buffers could have a stock slid on to them.

"All" is a pretty strong word there... Try it with a Spike's, Rock River, Phase 5, Primary Weapons Systems, or DoubleStar tube. You'd have to seriously modify either the stock or the tube (like cutting down the entire outside diameter or milling out the inside of the stock).

I believe the earlier poster is right in that what you have there is an entry length receiver extension tube. ACE sells those as pistol buffer tubes with the foam sleeve.

If you're worried about it, just drill out the threads and cover the whole tube with one of our dipped rubber covers, which will cover the back end of the tube as well and not draw as much attention. Measure the outside diameter to be sure but it should fit one of our 0.94" rubber covers and you will not need to glue it on because once it is installed on the tube the only way you are getting it off is by destroying the cover.

spdrcr 11-21-2012 9:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIV Tactical (Post 9763812)
No you are not ok. If your AR pistol buffer tube is CAPABLE of accepting a stock you are in violation. Does not matter if you have the stock or not. In this case the buffer tube is capable of accepting a shorty A2 stock so I would not use it. Its not worth risking a felony over.

:fud:

jamesob 11-21-2012 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile Machine (Post 9764673)
"All" is a pretty strong word there... Try it with a Spike's, Rock River, Phase 5, Primary Weapons Systems, or DoubleStar tube. You'd have to seriously modify either the stock or the tube (like cutting down the entire outside diameter or milling out the inside of the stock).

I believe the earlier poster is right in that what you have there is an entry length receiver extension tube. ACE sells those as pistol buffer tubes with the foam sleeve.

If you're worried about it, just drill out the threads and cover the whole tube with one of our dipped rubber covers, which will cover the back end of the tube as well and not draw as much attention. Measure the outside diameter to be sure but it should fit one of our 0.94" rubber covers and you will not need to glue it on because once it is installed on the tube the only way you are getting it off is by destroying the cover.

True, all is a strong word. I should have said " a lot" but anyways his buffer has a sleeve glued on so a stock wouldn't fit. I would use the threads for a swivel sling mount.


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