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Oh yeah...I have an Eotech on it and it does weigh quite a bit. I kinda gave up shooting it like a pistol and went rifle stance. So did everyone else.
I was going to go with the short buffer tube (i.e. the found on GSE website) too, but read too many people having FTF (etc) issues with it. Have fun and safe shooting, bros. |
hey mark~! met you at angeles a while back. i remember that ar pistol you have had a huge flash. lol... looked like alot of fun. you oughta post up some more pics. catch ya next time.
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Any issues with using the CAR stock buffer tube?
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It was nice meeting you, too. Yeah, I brought a couple of family/friends along to shoot maybe 5-6 firearms that nite and so far the AR pistol was their favorite. Now some of their friends want to tag along next time to give it a go:eek:...fun times. Maybe I'll catch you there again soon. Take care & safe shooting. **************** (69Mach1) No issues. I was advised by a couple of arf.com builders to make sure to use a heavy buffer. The upper was built by Spike's Tactical. Prior to purchasing it, I asked Angela what Spike thought about the GSE Buffer tube set. (It can be found here: http://www.gunsmokeenterprises.net/A..._Kits_GSE.html). I figured I'd ask since both companies were in Florida and since she was familiar with their stuff. And, she said that it was a hit or miss. They did some testing with a variety of pistol uppers with the GSE short buffer set as they were hoping to use it as part of their kit packages, but it would work on some and some not. As a result, I went the safe route and went with the car tube and heavy buffer. By the way, would you want some foam padding for your buffer tube? I've got some extra. It does wonders if you decide that you wanna shoot it like a rifle instead of a pistol. I got the foam padding from a friend of mine in Maine, who owns a plant that makes them. I told him about my build and he sent me some high quality low rise rubber foam to cover up the buffer tube. I've got three choices. I could send you all three to try out to see what's to your liking. All you gotta do is remove the end cap, "lub the tube, and slip it on." :D It's low enough to clear the charging hand and it beats cheeking up to the metal and hearing the boing. PM me if you want it and I'll be glad to send it over, bros.:) |
Cool, thank you very much. No legal issues with the CAR stock buffer tube either.
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perhaps someone can help me out. im curious as to what makes these different from an SBR, does that rule only apply to AR's? where the hell do i find the codes for this stuff?
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Because they're not rifles. They are marked and DROS'ed as pistols. There is no stock on these pistols either.
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Here's a better pic with the CAR length pistol tube.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...N/DSC03636.jpg |
doesn't look to bad with a car buffer but i wouldn't feel safe legal wise with that on there
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...rnetletter.jpg http://www.jcweaponry.com/images/ar15/BB.JPG We've discussed a lot about CA laws, so lets talk about Federal laws. For you fellow calgunners who are interested in getting an AR pistol, here are some rules to follow so that you do not violate Federal NFA laws. If you don't already have an AR pistol receiver, but do have AR rifles/receivers, DO NOT HAVE AN AR PISTOL UPPER OR BARREL LESS THAN 16in SHIPPED TO YOU. You'll need to supply a pistol upper to complete the pistol for DROS, so to avoid danger have it shipped directly to your dealer. If you don't have any AR rifles or receivers, you should be OK. Having an AR rifle with possession of an AR pistol upper or an AR barrel less than 16 inches is considered constructive possession of a short barreled rifle unless you also have an AR pistol receiver. If you do not own any AR rifles/receivers, once you have your AR pistol, if you happen to be in possession of an AR butt stock without the rifle (16in barrel) upper, it is considered constructive possession of a short barreled rifle. If you do own AR rifles and you take possession of your AR pistol, you can be in possession of butt stocks because they are spare parts for your AR rifle. |
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Installing a stock onto your car buffer tube requires no tools, and can be done quite easily. I'd reconsider using it. I think your playing with fire. |
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I could have named it the 'killamajig' or something, but then you wouldn't know if it was bad*** because of the name or because of what it is. There's no confusion now. |
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Aditionally the foam sleve, when installed, prevents the buffer tube from being able to be inserted even accidentally into any form of rifle stock. (ace was a bit parinod about that apperently) I've seen some guys wrap paracord over CAR stock buffer tubes to achieve the same effect.... constructive posession is alot harder to run afoul of with a pistol than with a rifle, but it can still be done. |
Carbon . . . and look, it's even got a pistol tube instead of a CAR tube! All of mines have CAR tubes. it's just easier that way :)
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...x470300437.jpg |
dang drunkskunk, looks good.
anyone pm me info on getting the ball rolling on a pistol AR. I have AR rifles, so i can't buy a pistol upper and have it shipped to my house right? When i DROS the pistol AR it has to be complete (as seen in all of these beautiful pics) right? so there is no buy the recievers and then parts kits, buffer tube, uppers, mags etc later right? All in one shot. sorry for sounding new to this. i don't have the cash to drop down on a complete one, but would like to get this started. thanks |
New to the AR laws - but been thinking of getting one. Better yet - in pistol form. So, if I have to get a single shot lower registered as a pistol - how do I convert it to open magwell with a BB?
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buy a complete pistol, depending on your location you have several options with who to go with. NorCal- M24armorer, SoCal AR15barrels-sells kits.
Conversion is easy, put in your gas tube, or take out your mag block. Install a BB and 10rnd mag. |
great Info guys, Thanks for the time posting up your knowledge also.
A quick re-cap for me. Get OLL DROSed as a pistol Call AR 15 barrels or M24 have them make pistol upper Install maglock with 10 rounder Never install a stock I think this is it but how can I get a pistol upper sent to me? wouldnt that be a SBR? or is it the case of its not a gun untill its put together. And as long as its put together the correct way Im good to go? Like I said before I love this web-site and the people that help newbis like me. |
I believe you must dros the pistol as a whole and not just a stripped receiver.
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you can ppt a "frame".
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How about an Addax GPU 10.5" AR Pistol Upper...:43:
We are going to start building these in approx. 2 weeks, just waiting on some 10.5" barrels to arrive. We are also looking at possibly building a 7.5" barreled version, but that is going to take some time to develop. http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...x/IMG_9807.jpg http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...x/IMG_9809.jpg |
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Im curious, how much would the 7.5" (if possible) be going for?? That is too sweet.... |
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Kinda a funny question but how has you GPU been running? any problems? special pre-order discounts? lol thanks bro. |
hey guys off topic
say i wanna build an AR pistol is really doubt its the same as a ak pistol where you HAVE to build from a flat...what type of lower do you use? one that says multi ? ive heard that that some say pistol ? are they more expensive? can i use a regular lower ? thanks! |
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Thanks RocketW19, I will be posting prices up very soon on our AR Pistol GPU Our GPU's have been running like a champ, and we have had some time to develop the different models of our uppers with PWS. We also test fire each and every upper we build before we ship them out to ensure functionality. |
Um...I want one.
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I'd almost be nervous of constructive possession with one of those sitting in my garage ;)
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Anyway to get a stripped pistol receiver.....or do I need somebody with an AW permit to receive the pistol and install a BB for me.
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