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Capybara 09-13-2013 10:19 PM

My First M1895 Nagant
 
1944 Izhevsk M1895 Nagant Pistol.

I have been wanting one of these for years, finally came across what seems to be a good deal on a pristine example. I liked that it was a WWII vintage Izhevsk, every single sample I have ever seen seems to be a 1930s Tula. Anyone know what the alpha and numeral stamped up on the barrel means? It looks like C2 or C7 and on the other side is a tiny Izhevsk stamp and something else that looks like the Izhevsk stamp over a number? My point and shoot doesn't do real macro so couldn't get a super clear shot of these.

This one has the Bakelite grips, which I think look better and it looks as if this one was rarely, if ever shot, the bore looks like a brand new gun. It's weird, with my Mosins and others, I throw all of the accessories in a big pile, they really don't interest me past a cursory examination when I first buy the gun. But this pistol came with some cool accessories, the screwdriver, cleaning rod, lanyard and the holster has a different colored border than most I have seen.

Anyone reload for this gun? The crimp seems really weird. I also scored 50 rounds of Prvi brass ammo and some corrosive surplus. What the heck is up with the firing pin, a swiveling firing pin? How strange.

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Emdawg 09-13-2013 10:22 PM

Mmmmmmmmm... Nagants.


http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/...pse78326ed.jpg

Capybara 09-13-2013 10:25 PM

Does the one on the right have no roll mark or a scrubbed roll mark? Wait, now it's occurring to me that that is not a Nagant on the right? What is it?

G-Man WC 09-13-2013 10:29 PM

Nice score. Capy, Heads up if you reload. -g
http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...productId/5400

Emdawg 09-13-2013 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Capybara (Post 12309878)
Does the one on the right have no roll mark or a scrubbed roll mark? Wait, now it's occurring to me that that is not a Nagant on the right? What is it?

It is a M1893 Nagant made for Brazil. Large frame .44 caliber.

You think that Nagant made revolvers only for Russia? :D

Capybara 09-13-2013 10:33 PM

Thank you, thank you, I am going to order some of those. Gotta find dies too.

Capybara 09-13-2013 10:34 PM

Nope, didn't know that there were Nagants made for elsewhere. What other countries/variants exist? Usual eastern bloc satellite countries or more in South America?

Emdawg 09-13-2013 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Capybara (Post 12309935)
Nope, didn't know that there were Nagants made for elsewhere. What other countries/variants exist? Usual eastern bloc satellite countries or more in South America?


Belgium orginally ordered some in a 9mm and then went to 7.5mm.

Sweden ordered and then produced their own (at Husqvarna) in 7.5mm.

Argentina and Brazil ordered them. Almost same exact pistol, except for a minute difference in the cartridge that is not really noticable, .44 Brazilian or .440 Argentine, both referred to as .44 Nagant.

Serbia also bought a few.

Capybara 09-13-2013 10:40 PM

Very interesting, what a geographically diverse group of customers.

Emdawg 09-13-2013 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Capybara (Post 12309964)
Very interesting, what a geographically diverse group of customers.

At the time Nagant was to revolvers as Mauser was to rifles and Browning was to semi-auto pistols.

Rimfire123 09-13-2013 10:49 PM

nice piece, if you don't mind where did you find this gem and how much is it?

thanks

CEDaytonaRydr 09-13-2013 10:52 PM

They're fun little guns. Not a bad way to spend $100. ;)

Capybara 09-13-2013 11:28 PM

I am afraid the days of the $99.00 Nagant pistol are over, the same as the days of the $99.00 91/30s. I paid $145.00 from a private party here in Arizona. I saw several more in other shops here and they were $150.00 up to $219.00. I have never seen a Nagant in a California gun store.

I have noticed that gun prices in general are much more realistic here. I was in a shop here the other day and they had three Tavors, each for $1,600.00. All three sold in the hour I was there.

Armistice 09-14-2013 1:06 AM

Damn, I paid $291 for mine. And the bore is totally shot out and pitted :(

Quiet 09-14-2013 1:49 AM

Sweet Nagant!

Welcome to the club. :D






My 1929 Tula M1895 Nagant
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NOTABIKER 09-14-2013 5:21 AM

i want one
 
very nice, i am not into pistols but about the same time i got into Mosins turners had them for sale for around 100 bucks. i have not seen them retail for a long time. i want one . the one you have is very nice.:)

Enfield47 09-14-2013 5:22 AM

That is a really nice example you found. I haven't seen one in that good of shape before.

Capybara 09-15-2013 8:53 AM

That's why I jumped on it, it was so new looking. I have some thrasher guns but there is nothing like finding something from WWII that looks basically new.

Raptor3000 09-15-2013 9:56 AM

Last year J&G had very nice Nagant revolvers, bores were like mirror with strong lands and grooves. These revolvers were arsenal refinished so most of them are in excellent condition exterior, but J&G was charging, if I remember correct $20 more for shinny like new bore. They even had MO marking ones for little extra.

I bought one from Ammo bros in Cerritos i think last year with CCCP markings on the Nagant revolver.

CSACANNONEER 09-15-2013 10:08 AM

Capy,

In a few weeks you should come down to TO and shoot it at my place. I have dies but haven't tried reloading 38R yet. I'll also let you shoot my 1885 Swedish Nagant if you come down.

Capybara 09-15-2013 11:30 AM

Sounds good CSA, I'll PM you, would like to see your new digs.

Armistice 09-16-2013 5:41 PM

Wonder why I never posted mine in here. '41 Tula, non import marked. Frame and cylinder matching

Still need to fix the flared casing problem

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Flyin Brian 09-17-2013 8:49 AM

Here's one that you don't see every day... it's a 1929 Tula with a Finnish property stamp:

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...20Tula/019.jpg

Capybara 09-21-2013 10:23 AM

Nice ones guys.

Don't know if any of you have seen this site, but he has some fascinating background and history on the Nagant and some good tips too on reloading, etc. Well worth a look if you own a Nagant.

http://thenagantman.com/

VegasND 09-21-2013 5:56 PM

I had not seen that, thanks for the link.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capybara (Post 12368527)
Nice ones guys.

Don't know if any of you have seen this site, but he has some fascinating background and history on the Nagant and some good tips too on reloading, etc. Well worth a look if you own a Nagant.

http://thenagantman.com/


johnthomas 09-23-2013 12:52 AM

I own two, 1940 with wooden grips and 1943 with bakelite grips. I bought a cylinder in 32 acp for the 43. I bought mine at JG a few years ago for.......69 dollars a piece, sent to my house when having a c&r meant something. Back then, you could have c&r handguns sent to the house and send in money to the state.

NOTABIKER 09-23-2013 5:06 AM

i have never held one, but i know i want one. like a beautiful woman. very nice.


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