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audihenry 12-01-2009 2:50 PM

Benefits of holographic red dot sight? (Eotech, etc.)
 
Guys,

I'm in the market for a red dot sight and wanted to know what the benefits are to Eotech's expensive holographic sights, as opposed to traditional red dot sights.

Thanks

Vin496 12-01-2009 3:07 PM

Are Eotechs any more expensive than quality Red Dots?

I have have/had Eotechs and Aimpoints and personally I prefer the Eotech. I like the ring and dot reticle over just the dot and the "openess" of the Eotech. There for a while I did prefer the Aimpoint but since the Eotech XPS has come out, I much prefer that.

This is one of those Chevy/Ford questions so be prepared for a mix of answers and love hate.

audihenry 12-01-2009 4:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vin496 (Post 3435415)
Are Eotechs any more expensive than quality Red Dots?

I have have/had Eotechs and Aimpoints and personally I prefer the Eotech. I like the ring and dot reticle over just the dot and the "openess" of the Eotech. There for a while I did prefer the Aimpoint but since the Eotech XPS has come out, I much prefer that.

This is one of those Chevy/Ford questions so be prepared for a mix of answers and love hate.

I suppose what I meant was, are you paying for quality/features that you can't get anywhere else, or for the brand and whether a similar product can be had for less?

Noobert 12-01-2009 4:52 PM

Benefit to Eotech is holo sight, much quicker target acckqqusiticion (Not even going to attempt to spell that word!)

cortayack 12-01-2009 5:54 PM

I think it comes down to what you want...Eotech and Aimpoint are both good RD sights....I went with the Aimpoint because of the battery life..Some say just have extra batteries, but how I see it, If SHTF and I switch my RD on, I want to make sure it turns on......

If its not for that type of rifle then don't worry about it.........:43:

Josh3239 12-01-2009 6:03 PM

EO Techs are holosights and everything else is a red dot sight. EO Tech's two big advantages IMO are the heads up style display and the reticle. I much prefer the reticle waaaaay more than a regular red dot and the heads up style means you don't have to look into a tube. That makes shooting from awkward positions much much easier. The reticle has always seemed easier to acquire targets fast but some prefer the regular red dot. I'd love to get another EO but having had problems with one before, they seem like a lottery, an expensive lottery.

audihenry 12-01-2009 7:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh3239 (Post 3436278)
EO Techs are holosights and everything else is a red dot sight. EO Tech's two big advantages IMO are the heads up style display and the reticle. I much prefer the reticle waaaaay more than a regular red dot and the heads up style means you don't have to look into a tube. That makes shooting from awkward positions much much easier. The reticle has always seemed easier to acquire targets fast but some prefer the regular red dot. I'd love to get another EO but having had problems with one before, they seem like a lottery, an expensive lottery.

So if I understand correctly, you can look at it from an angle and a holo dot will still appear properly on target? I've never used one. :o

Noobert 12-01-2009 7:58 PM

yes ^ where you aim is where it hits from any angle

PonchoTA 12-01-2009 8:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Noobert (Post 3436828)
yes ^ where you aim is where it hits from any angle

My Strikefire does that for half the cost! :rofl:

(or at least, it seems to me it does)

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professorhard 12-01-2009 8:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noobert (Post 3435949)
acckqqusiticion (Not even going to attempt to spell that word!)


Epic spelling attempt fail.

cudakidd 12-01-2009 8:34 PM

Holosight (eotech, Bushnell) is MUCH faster acquisition and no parallax, ie, your head position is not as critical. Great for reaction shooting or speed shooting. If target shooting or plinking it's a wash.

ArticleTheFourth 12-01-2009 9:55 PM

A true holographic sight can produce a very small aiming dot. The Eotech projects a 1moa dot in the center of a 65moa circle. Most non-holograhphic sights (red dots) can only project a 3moa to 5moa dot and can't accurately produce the circle.

This means that an Eotech 1moa 'dot' covers a 1 inch diameter target at 100 yards but a typical red dot 'dot' will cover a target from 3 to 5 inches at the same distance. Most of us can't shoot this well unless on a bench, but such a good holographpic sight as an Eotech can resolve a 1 inch target at 100 yards.

I have Eotechs, Aimpoints, Trijicons plus other cheaper stuff and all three of these are good sights for the given application, but only the Eotech (as far as I know) has the 1moa resolving power!

Just my two cents.
:D

kermit315 12-02-2009 4:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PonchoTA (Post 3436859)
My Strikefire does that for half the cost! :rofl:

(or at least, it seems to me it does)

.

Is that the same one you had on your AR before I left? If so, how is it holding up?

PonchoTA 12-02-2009 6:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kermit315 (Post 3438123)
Is that the same one you had on your AR before I left? If so, how is it holding up?

Yep, same one! Seems to be holding up just fine. Haven't had to make any corrections to it at all.

Of course, I've got mine set to aim "point and shoot" within 25m, so it's not a "reach out and touch someone" weapon. I want the bullet to go where the dot is, and it does, every time so far.

Got mine through Liberty Optics (sponsor on here, Scott is awesome to deal with!)

:cheers2:
Paul

WeekendWarrior 12-02-2009 8:07 AM

WWRTW

Black Majik 12-02-2009 8:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noobert (Post 3435949)
acckqquisiticion (Not even going to attempt to spell that word!)

What's great is, you can throw the whole alphabet into one word, you'll still get the word. :D

audihenry 12-02-2009 9:24 AM

Thanks guys, I think I get it now.

One more thing: there are a thousand varieties of EOTech sights, and some deemed leo/military. Can I buy one of those? I've seen them up on CalGuns and elsewhere before with no limitations.

ArticleTheFourth 12-02-2009 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by audihenry (Post 3438723)
Thanks guys, I think I get it now.

One more thing: there are a thousand varieties of EOTech sights, and some deemed leo/military. Can I buy one of those? I've seen them up on CalGuns and elsewhere before with no limitations.



Yes, you can buy these.

There are two main differences between the traditional Eotechs. The newer ones have many other differences.

One difference is the battery used and the other is night vision compatibility. Batteries account for the size differences and have varying operational life from hundreds to thousands of hours. Some models allow it to be used with night vision optics and adds cost.

I hope this helps
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Greg-Dawg 12-02-2009 11:35 AM

Good info here. Thanks for posting.

yellowfin 12-02-2009 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by WeekendWarrior (Post 3438441)
If you want an eotech but dont want to pay top dollar, you could always go with the Bushnell holosight, as it is made for them by Eotech and is at least $100 cheaper (they typically go for about $240 online, sometimes you can find a deal for about $220 or a little less)

What's the difference between the two, if any? I might be building an AR for my wife and this would work great for her.

joefrank64k 12-02-2009 11:43 AM

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And Botach Defense is having a big sale on EOTech right now...I have the 516 and I love it!

djleisure 12-02-2009 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by yellowfin (Post 3439242)
What's the difference between the two, if any? I might be building an AR for my wife and this would work great for her.

The main difference is the "armor shroud" around the EOTech - it is made to handle a LOT more abuse than its Bushnell counterpart. Also, I don't think they are making the Bushnell's in the new "sideways battery" style, but again, this comes down to a "holding up under abuse" issue... Other than that, it's the exact same tech.

audihenry 12-02-2009 12:50 PM

Thank you all for the information!

WeekendWarrior 12-03-2009 7:35 AM

WWRTW

damndave 12-04-2009 3:27 AM

I have had EOTech & Aimpoint. I personally like the Aimpoint more. I just don't like the ring around the red dot. The Aimpoint has a much better battery system and for my taste, I think the Aimpoint just looks better.

Both are great sights though. Just a personal preference.

I currently use a ACOG :)

badicedog 12-04-2009 4:27 AM

I prefer the battery life on Aimpoints but wouldn't trade the 1 MOA reticle on my Eotech. That 1 MOA reticle makes all the difference when engaging targets 100-200 yrds. The Bushnell Holosight is a great value, it doesn't have all the bell's and whistles but is very compact. I use it on my AR pistol. FYI all Eotech's are NV compatible, you just have to turn down to lowest brightness setting. NV models have a switch that goes into lowest setting instantly.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...n/IMG_3270.jpg

audihenry 12-04-2009 7:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badicedog (Post 3447624)
I prefer the battery life on Aimpoints but wouldn't trade the 1 MOA reticle on my Eotech. That 1 MOA reticle makes all the difference when engaging targets 100-200 yrds. The Bushnell Holosight is a great value, it doesn't have all the bell's and whistles but is very compact. I use it on my AR pistol. FYI all Eotech's are NV compatible, you just have to turn down to lowest brightness setting. NV models have a switch that goes into lowest setting instantly.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...n/IMG_3270.jpg

Ah, is that the only difference between regular and NV compatible models?

badicedog 12-04-2009 9:49 AM

yes

audihenry 12-04-2009 10:43 AM

Thanks

Crazed_SS 12-04-2009 4:48 PM

I have the Bushnell Holosight on my SOCOM 16.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...s/IMG_0442.jpg
It works nicely.


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